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Anime Fans Are Intolerant of New People Joining the Base
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I don't think it's that people are intolerant, but it's just people have their own tastes and they want more of the stuff they like, so instead of watching it, they piss and moan how they don't like it. People just want more of what they know.
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kokorowohiraite wrote:


TsunLemon wrote:


kokorowohiraite wrote:


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I have no problems with people joining the fandom. As long as they truly love Anime I believe is fine.

As for children Anime: Who the hell has a problem with children Anime!? Children Anime are great!!!

Also I don't get the part about mainstream, can someone explain what he's trying to say? (forgive me for my stupidity.)


No stupidity on your behalf, what he wrote was barely coherent.


Really? Glad to hear so then. I seriously felt stupid since I couldn't understand most of what he was trying to say. While everyone else seem to be replying in all seriousness to him.


They're not really addressing that part of the post, imo.


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Oh, and to anyone who says Anime is immune to mainstream stuff: Ha! How do people honestly believe that? Are you telling me that Anime like SAO, Attack on Titan, or Kill la Kill are in the same bracket as stuff like Saki, Skip Beat, or Nisekoi? Every medium has its own heavy hitters that are way more popular and well-known than most of the other stuff, even if the other stuff is worth checking out. Our Mainstream is just different from the "Main"-Mainstream.


@TsunLemon Are they trying to say that anime like Saki, Skip Beat and Nisekoi are on another level compared to the latter or simply a different type of anime? I'm not sure. Maybe they can clear that up later.


I see. Then I hope they do so. I just can't understand the meaning of his words at all. ),:


Sorry. I see what you mean. In retrospect, I've should've worded it better. Here's what I meant: When I hear discussions of Anime, there are times, not most of the time, but sometimes, there's an idea that some Anime fans have that because what they're into is niche, that somehow makes their interest in it, and by extension them, special. Think about it this way; try going up to someone on the street and asking them what their opinions on SAO are. Most likely, you'll get a "Huh?" type of response. Now, try asking them what they think of The Walking Dead or House, and at the very least, they'll have heard of it.

Anime isn't considered mainstream by most people, since the majority of people don't know about a lot of series within the genre (the major exceptions being Astro Boy, Speed Racer, DBZ, Sailor Moon, and Pokemon). So, fans naturally think there's something cool in giving something a try that most people don't, and they're right. However, there are some fans that gravitate to the Anime that's most popular at any given time and tend not to check out some of the more obscure ones, while still saying they're into niche stuff. I've seen and heard people making these claims on forum topics or sites dedicated to stuff like Death Note, Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and in general many heavy-hitters.

Essentially, here's what that long-winded and confusing explanation boils down to is this: I don't believe you should start saying you're into niche stuff if the majority of what you check out in the genre is stuff that's really well-known and lots of people rave about. That forms its own mainstream within Anime, and while may seem like a paradox, it still exists. Really, take my opinion with a grain of salt. This doesn't apply to most fans, and I've probably just confused people even more. I just feel a little sad when truly great Anime series are neglected by the very same people that say they're special for giving Anime a shot when most people don't, ignoring the good, truly obscure stuff. It was a tangent anyways, it was my fault for making that part of the post so confusing.
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thewanderingforce wrote:


TsunLemon wrote:


kokorowohiraite wrote:


TsunLemon wrote:


kokorowohiraite wrote:


TsunLemon wrote:

I have no problems with people joining the fandom. As long as they truly love Anime I believe is fine.

As for children Anime: Who the hell has a problem with children Anime!? Children Anime are great!!!

Also I don't get the part about mainstream, can someone explain what he's trying to say? (forgive me for my stupidity.)


No stupidity on your behalf, what he wrote was barely coherent.


Really? Glad to hear so then. I seriously felt stupid since I couldn't understand most of what he was trying to say. While everyone else seem to be replying in all seriousness to him.


They're not really addressing that part of the post, imo.


thewanderingforce wrote:
Oh, and to anyone who says Anime is immune to mainstream stuff: Ha! How do people honestly believe that? Are you telling me that Anime like SAO, Attack on Titan, or Kill la Kill are in the same bracket as stuff like Saki, Skip Beat, or Nisekoi? Every medium has its own heavy hitters that are way more popular and well-known than most of the other stuff, even if the other stuff is worth checking out. Our Mainstream is just different from the "Main"-Mainstream.


@TsunLemon Are they trying to say that anime like Saki, Skip Beat and Nisekoi are on another level compared to the latter or simply a different type of anime? I'm not sure. Maybe they can clear that up later.


I see. Then I hope they do so. I just can't understand the meaning of his words at all. ),:


Sorry. I see what you mean. In retrospect, I've should've worded it better. Here's what I meant: When I hear discussions of Anime, there are times, not most of the time, but sometimes, there's an idea that some Anime fans have that because what they're into is niche, that somehow makes their interest in it, and by extension them, special. Think about it this way; try going up to someone on the street and asking them what their opinions on SAO are. Most likely, you'll get a "Huh?" type of response. Now, try asking them what they think of The Walking Dead or House, and at the very least, they'll have heard of it.

Anime isn't considered mainstream by most people, since the majority of people don't know about a lot of series within the genre (the major exceptions being Astro Boy, Speed Racer, DBZ, Sailor Moon, and Pokemon). So, fans naturally think there's something cool in giving something a try that most people don't, and they're right. However, there are some fans that gravitate to the Anime that's most popular at any given time and tend not to check out some of the more obscure ones, while still saying they're into niche stuff. I've seen and heard people making these claims on forum topics or sites dedicated to stuff like Death Note, Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, and in general many heavy-hitters.

Essentially, here's what that long-winded and confusing explanation boils down to is this: I don't believe you should start saying you're into niche stuff if the majority of what you check out in the genre is stuff that's really well-known and lots of people rave about. That forms its own mainstream within Anime, and while may seem like a paradox, it still exists. Really, take my opinion with a grain of salt. This doesn't apply to most fans, and I've probably just confused people even more. I just feel a little sad when truly great Anime series are neglected by the very same people that say they're special for giving Anime a shot when most people don't, ignoring the good, truly obscure stuff. It was a tangent anyways, it was my fault for making that part of the post so confusing.


Thanks for clearing that up.
And yes, I pretty much agree with what you're saying. This is more or less what I meant with the first part of my comment "as long as they truly love Anime".

There were many people in my school that tried to seem like Anime fans for some reason. They later approached me, who was currently reading manga in class, and claimed to like what I was reading(at the time, I believe I was reading Hayate no Gotoku!, which isn't even that obscure), but the moment I asked them to explain what it's about, they immediately shut up. Then said they liked ones like "Bleach, Naruto, One Piece" instead. Ones that clearly everyone has heard of.

I am very pro to people joining the fanbase, but if all they're gonna say is "SAO is the best Anime ever" while having only seen about 5 extremely overrated series, I truly find it sad.

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The issue here isn't that the fan base is growing, it's that Anime in general is directed at Audiences that are 16+ the more "common" it becomes in a household the more censorship anime will face look at animes like Yugioh, or One Piece mere shadows of there original Japanese versions

Its already hard enough for people to take "anime" seriously in western culture as a adult thing, without having to explain most isnt for kiddies that being said maybe you shouldnt watch anime if you need permission

but whatever keeps you from whining
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stoner789 wrote:

I actually enjoy a wide range of shows and the first anime i remember watching was dragon ball z, pokemon, inuyasha, death note, but I also like things like nyarko-san and whatnot, I also like a bit of slice of life like non non biyori for example, I try to give about any anime a chance. I like crunchy roll's range of shows although it'd be nice if they had tons more, some older stuff and newer things we don't already have, but that would cost them lots of money, maybe someday when we get enough support for the site. I mean theres only 6 or 7 thousand paying members am I right? I think everyone should give an anime they might not be sure a try and if they don't like it then don't watch it and don't complain about it.

I don't have a problem letting kids watch as long as they aren't watching things like Afro Samurai


Or Samurai Champloo ^.^


HEY ITS LEMONTITTIES LONG TIME HUH? lol
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HEY ITS LEMONTITTIES LONG TIME HUH? lol


I'm surprised you remember me lol :p. Indeed it has!!
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my only concern is will most children be able to read subtitles that fast
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XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote: Cons:

There will need to be restricted access to the adult shows ...

That's already in place. Untick the mature content setting, and the mature content doesn't show up.

Some parents would probably like to have a "family" log-in, where the "family" login wouldn't be able to modify the account settings and wouldn't have access to the account credit card. But that wouldn't be likely to be a massive rewrite, just re-using the basic account code, but with a check at a few key gateway points so that the secondary "family" account has fewer privileges than the primary "main" account.

And for people that want all-G content ... well, Crunchyroll is not going to be able to compete with enough content to match the sites that are specialized for that purpose, so sticking to the current PG13 versus "mature" content that is already supported probably makes the most business sense.

As has already been noted above, you get young enough and the kids really need English dubbed content anyway.
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If getting more people means more shows like AOT,im fine with it.
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agila61 wrote:


XxNaruTheNarcissistxX wrote: Cons:

There will need to be restricted access to the adult shows ...


you get young enough and the kids really need English dubbed content anyway.


That's actually a really good point right there
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The only people I have an issue with when it comes to the whole "hostile towards newbies".
Is the stuck up men who think girls are "faking" liking anime/manga.
I've been into this stuff since I was 11.
And dudes still talk shit to me saying that I'm faking it.
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Honestly I think the problem isn't when other people start watching anime, but rather what anime they watch and how they watch it. People are portrayed as the scum of the earth because "he likes Naruto" or "she's a weeb that doesn't like dubs" or "he's a filthy casual for liking dubs" or "Crunchyroll is killing anime" or "he watched Bleach and Elfen Lied on Toonami instead of Cowboy Bebop and Neon Genesis Evangelion" or some stupid crap like that.
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Angerudusto wrote: Honestly I think the problem isn't when other people start watching anime, but rather what anime they watch and how they watch it. People are portrayed as the scum of the earth because "he likes Naruto" or "she's a weeb that doesn't like dubs" or "he's a filthy casual for liking dubs" or "Crunchyroll is killing anime" or "he watched Bleach and Elfen Lied on Toonami instead of Cowboy Bebop and Neon Genesis Evangelion" or some stupid crap like that.

I reckon that is the kind of searching for false status distinctions that insecure people do, and whether they are doing it about anime or comics or gaming or stamp collecting is less important for what is driving it than the insecurities they feel the need to compensate for.

I like some anime, I don't like other anime. That doesn't make me better than the people that like some stuff I don't like and dislike some stuff I like. Indeed, I like some of the stuff I like because I think it is high quality, and I like some of the stuff I like despite the fact that I think its schlock, and it doesn't make me a better person when I am watching what I think is good stuff than when I am watching what I think is schlock.


gayfawn wrote: The only people I have an issue with when it comes to the whole "hostile towards newbies".
Is the stuck up men who think girls are "faking" liking anime/manga.
I've been into this stuff since I was 11.
And dudes still talk shit to me saying that I'm faking it.

I would dispute one thing there. Real men are not, like, "oooh, icky girls are invading the clubhouse!!!"

So, whether they are teenage or middle aged, that seems to me to be the behavior of stuck up boys. If they'd gotten around to growing up into men somewhere along the way, they would know better.

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Don't know why people are complaining about OP, made sense to me. Oh well.

I think serious fans of anything tend to be elitist and instinctively don't want what they like to be "plebified", even if it's a somewhat self-destructive attitude. They want to guide new initiates to become more like them, rather than suddenly have to deal with being displaced by a huge amount of people with very different attitudes and approaches to whatever it is that they like.

A bit like how people from Harlem got understandably peeved when people who knew nothing about what it really was started doing "harlem shakes", most of which were just embarrassingly bad. Following that phenomenon, almost everyone sees jumping around like a monkey on a camera as what the harlem shake is.

As someone said above, 'geekdom' is pretty similar. Geeks were originally reviled by society, until lately it has become fashionable to style yourself a 'geek' because of The Big Bang Theory etc. - also it has become accepted as cool to play console games as a bro thing. And so you now have the hated casuals and pseudo-geeks being catered to given their numbers

That being said, I doubt anime is facing too much of a similar issue. I suppose people are introduced to it by their friends when the next gateway shounen comes out. Either way I couldn't care less what anime other anime-fans end up watching.


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SacredBlood77 wrote:

Humans are Intolerant creatures, it's not just the Anime fandom.


Brony fandom *shivers*

Lemon, how could you?

Nah serious, care to elaborate on this?
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Renegatz wrote:

Lemon, how could you?

Nah serious, care to elaborate on this?


Lol don't take offense, but I just think it's rather odd that grown adults watch MLP. It's nothing to be ashamed of. I don't look down upon you or anything or think you're a "faggot" like most of those intolerant bastards say. Keep enjoying what you enjoy!
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