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season of lolis ftw! fuck the haters!
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Hmm close... but not quite... when I was thinking Mecha I was thinking your stereotypical like Gundam-esque Mecha's, but since their Loli piloted mecha they'd probably be bright colored full of frills and their attacks probably wouldn't actually do any damage... except from the one Yandere Loli Mecha.
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i'm tired of them. they're very ubiquitous in all seasons of anime, and in every anime there is always a character (whether side or main) that is loli. and they try to mask it by saying that loli is 23 years old... with the logic that Japanese females are short... so that's why they ended up looking like loli's (while it's true that some Japanese women look like little girls... we all know the reasons why anime producers draw loli's all the time).

im tired of their squeaky voice, tired of their childish personalities and no character depth.


Not all anime has Loli's lol
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Hmm close... but not quite... when I was thinking Mecha I was thinking your stereotypical like Gundam-esque Mecha's, but since their Loli piloted mecha they'd probably be bright colored full of frills and their attacks probably wouldn't actually do any damage... except from the one Yandere Loli Mecha.


ship this to Sunrise. they seem to be doing enough to try to ruin the Gundam image, maybe they can redeem themselves with this idea!
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It's one thing when anime portrays skanky schoolgirls, because hey, if the show is meant for teenage guys, then its understandable the show will have female characters who are the age they would find attractive.


But lolis? Elementary schoolboys are more likely to be worried about picking up cooties than the herps, so you just gotta wonder, for who are loli shows made for?

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It's one thing when anime portrays skanky schoolgirls, because hey, if the show is meant for teenage guys, then its understandable the show will have female characters who are the age they would find attractive.

But lolis? Elementary schoolboys are more likely to be worried about picking up cooties than the herps, so you just gotta wonder, for who are loli shows made for?

Don't think about it too hard. You will hurt your brain.

Also:


That is the way some people view it
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Also:


That is the way some people view it

I love that guy from gintama.

I am fine with Lolis, even if they overtake the anime world. As long as ladies of other ages / sizes still exists.


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Last season seemed to be magical themed. This season seems to be game/video game theme'd.

Only thing I'll probably end up watching is Mushishi. Nothing has impressed me :/

I feel like anime that have nothing to do with high-school always seem to be a lot better
Posted 4/11/14
lolis are less annoying than all the sibling complex stuff from last season. IMO
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There's way too many loli's. Why are there so many loli's? The brochure said there'd only be a few loli's. This is a terrible vacation.
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phogan wrote:

lolis are less annoying than all the sibling complex stuff from last season. IMO


Yeah sibling complex is the weirdest imo.
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maxgale wrote:

It's one thing when anime portrays skanky schoolgirls, because hey, if the show is meant for teenage guys, then its understandable the show will have female characters who are the age they would find attractive.


But lolis? Elementary schoolboys are more likely to be worried about picking up cooties than the herps, so you just gotta wonder, for who are loli shows made for?



Well one thing is for sure, most animes( a HUGE majority) are not geared towards the "Western" wrold, So this part "Elementary schoolboys are more likely to be worried about picking up cooties than the herps" is irrelevant. But obviously I would expect the the elementary boys of japan/ the east to be all into the tons and tons of card dragon game animes that are out atm, while the lolis are geared towards those with the obsession of CUTE &TINY whether they are older males or females within japan. And since japan is a shame culture, media such as anime is usually the outlet for sexualizations with little repercussion of shame from the creator and nothing is safe from that including the lolis LOL.

Simply put the anime/manga are barely ever put in consideration of westerns thoughts, which should be already apparent with how every U.S transfer student is blonde, or huge T&A, w/e other cliche you want to throw in. And the creators could give a dam what any of us here thinks or wants (We are a drop in the bucket of their paying consumers which includes not only the shows but the merchandise/collectibles), if those in Japan like it, they make it, beacuse there lies the "True" consumer of their product.
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This is possibly one of the best thing I have ever seen written about anything on the whole Loli thing, or anything out of Japan really. It sells in Japan, it doesn't matter how much of a righteous crusade you try to lead on the internet here in the states, cause Japan doesn't really give a shit, not to mention they will most likely NEVER SEE ANYTHING YOU SAY.

If it makes them money, and moe/loli/sis/bro-con/etc/etc/etc makes them a LOT of money, they will continue to make it until it has dried up and become useless. So if you dislike it, might as stop ostracizing yourself and either learn to enjoy what you hate, or watch what you like and try to hype it up more so you have people to talk with about it.
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Well I guess I really shouldn't complain if anime isn't even geared toward audiences outside of Japan...

But yeah not a fan of loli. They may be cute but I have a major problem with the sexualization of children.
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This is possibly one of the best thing I have ever seen written about anything on the whole Loli thing, or anything out of Japan really. It sells in Japan, it doesn't matter how much of a righteous crusade you try to lead on the internet here in the states, cause Japan doesn't really give a shit, not to mention they will most likely NEVER SEE ANYTHING YOU SAY.

If it makes them money, and moe/loli/sis/bro-con/etc/etc/etc makes them a LOT of money, they will continue to make it until it has dried up and become useless. So if you dislike it, might as stop ostracizing yourself and either learn to enjoy what you hate, or watch what you like and try to hype it up more so you have people to talk with about it.


I guess the matter is also "why" is it liked in Japan, though of course there are those who like it here as well. I don't think anyone here has a righteous crusade in mind, but it's surely curious that a culture that to my knowledge is not especially more accepting of paedophilia than we are would be okay with sexualized elementary school girls.

My impression built during the years has been that this is something that the Japanese society at large abhors as well. It seems to me there is a huge disconnect in Japan between the general feeling and the otaku and hikikomori subcultures. We perceive a lot more the latter than the former through anime of course and this distorts a bit our perception. In fact, "otaku" is a rather offensive word in Japan, as there has been some assassin/paedophile a few years ago who got labelled as "the otaku murderer" due to him owning tons of anime, manga, figures, body pillows, hentai doujinshi and so on. Censorship laws are stronger than here, to the point of even having genitals censored in porn (which is outright hypocritical and dumb), and in general manga and anime are often mentioned as "corrupting the youth". Though they are a huge source of income, the adult audience for anime is often frowned upon.

However we know how competitive Japanese society is, and this is literally leading people to break down, a lot. Going hikikomori (=shut in, like the guys from No Game No Life, the MC of Welcome to NHK, or even Keima from TWGOK) suddenly makes more sense when the world outside is so fucking terrifying and unforgiving, and a single mistake will get your scholastic/professional career ruined for life. All this pressure reflects on sexual relationships as well, of course. Japanese are both very shy and formal (it's even reflected in their language, which is a convoluted mess of honorifics and verbal forms meant to sound as polite as possible - it gets to the point that every basic Japanese course will recommend you to never use the word for an outright 'no') and it's no surprise that in this condition it would be hard to relate to the other sex; add all the psychological pressure for success on top, and how the strongly male-centred view of society basically puts almost only on men's shoulders the weight of both finding a good job and making a move with women, and there's why people goes "fuck this, I'm out".

In Japan they do a lot of talk about "carnivore" women, who are very aggressive and demanding in searching for men, and "vegetarian" men, who have grown so scared of women that they just aren't interested any more in sexual relationships. It is, again, a way to escape society's expectations. So where do you go when you don't feel interested any more in real women? Why, you direct your attention to 2D women. Dating simulators, eroge, LN, manga, anime. The weaker, more submissive, more reassuring the "waifu", the better. Hence a sweet, moe girl is better than an outgoing and spunky one. Hence a tsun will always have something dere about her, blush and get confused when she's around the boy she likes. Hence imoutos, because it's so much easier to fantasize about a relationship with a girl that you know since forever and that you have more chances to find yourself in intimacy with without effort on your part (add to that that Japan's low birth rate means that it's not very likely to have a REAL little sister, which would probably kinda shatter the dream for most). Hence lolis, because who's weaker and more submissive and less scary and more "pure" than a child? And let's not forget that "purity" here is especially important, as of course an "experienced" woman will do comparisons, and comparisons are scary.

This is more or less my feeling about how and why this works for most. Though I've never been in person to Japan, so this comes mostly from reading around and the occasional chat with a Japanese person.






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