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Evil Babies?
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Babies are Justice; Justice is Batman.

Do you think people are born inherently evil whether it be a gene or mutated DNA?
Do you think that they are influenced by social pressures and their environment and become evil?
What makes people evil?
Is evil subjective to our opinion?

I ask this because I am currently discussing social psychology, conformity, the bystander effect, and other interesting matters. We came across several stories of people murdered and people simply watched and carried on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
Synopsis: Woman is stabbed outside her apartment complex. 38 neighbors saw and/or heard the commotion yet no one helped.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19586738/ns/us_news-life/t/video-shows-people-stepping-over-dying-woman/
Synopsis: Woman was stabbed in a convenience store and was left dying on the ground while 5 shoppers continued shopping. One person stopped to take a picture. It was 2 minutes before someone dialed 9-1-1.

What do you think? Do you think this phenomena explains why there were so many victims during the Holocaust?

Doesn't matter which question you answer or if you comment about the articles.

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I read that just recently, a baby (under 1 year old) was accused of attempted murder in Pakistan. So apparently...babies can be evil!

So, that story...basically, it comes down to this: In Pakistan, with feuding families/groups of people, it isn't uncommon, when legal issues arise, for people to start accusing whoever they can in a feud or conflict. It could be family members, friends, roommates, coworkers, you name it. So when two groups of people were feuding in courts, and people started accusing people of their woes (even if some/all of them were innocent of any wrongdoing), someone accused an infant of attempted murder. Absurd. Everyone knows it is absurd. But this still had to be taken at least somewhat seriously due to flaws and loopholes in Pakistani law. And something else that is absurd, the infant had to show up in court, even though people knew he wasn't guilty (or capable) of any crime. smh man, people...so many stupid people in this world.
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I believe all humans are inherently evil, we've been socially conditioned to be "good".



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I think it is extreme to say we are all inherently evil, but if we didn't have man made things to keep us in check (ethics, basis' for right and wrong, social norms, etc.), and people just acted on their emotions and urges only, the world would be a real mess; even worse than it is now.
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I think we all have our more darker sides, and some of us can control them better than others.
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I read that just recently, a baby (under 1 year old) was accused of attempted murder in Pakistan. So apparently...babies can be evil!


...Wow. There are no words, lolz.
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Do you think people are born inherently evil whether it be a gene or mutated DNA?
Not at all. They might be born with some form of mental deficiency which could later in life make them act in ways that we deem evil but a creature with no understanding of anything cannot be born evil and know what is considered morally right and wrong with an empty undeveloped brain.

Do you think that they are influenced by social pressures and their environment and become evil?
Yes, that can definitely affect people and cause them to become evil. In fact, I think that's what causes it in most cases. If they're raised to believe it's okay to do what most would consider wrong then of course they'll do it, much like a person who acts civillised will probably behave that way because they were raised like that. Humans are very prone to the whole 'monkey see monkey do' thing, especially from a young age. Though as I also said, I think that if someone suffers from some form of mental problem e.g. they can't distinguish fiction from reality then they'll definitely be prone to problems.

What makes people evil?
Essentially what I said in the previous question. Mental problems, upbringing, environment and social pressures, though they're probably just a few things.

Is evil subjective to our opinion?
Definitely. As an example I'd like to go to the Oxford dictionary's definition of 'evil' which is: Profoundly immoral and wicked. What you consider immoral or wicked is, of course, subjective. Some might consider it wicked when hunters kill animals, but do the hunters find it wicked? Probably not. What we find evil is whatever we find cruel and that often brings suffering in some form, suffering that could be avoided, and that's preferably caused on purpose. It's not the best way of putting it but it'll do for the sake of the argument. However, most people aren't evil with that intent. Look at terrorists. We consider them evil, but they're not gunning people down and doing suicide bombings while thinking 'yeah, let's be the bad guys!' they're doing it because they think it supports their religious beliefs. So yes, it is subjective, but in most cases that's a good thing.
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Free will makes people evil.
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huh i thought this was a thread about babies that made it into the news for being evil
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Dubnoman wrote:

I think it is extreme to say we are all inherently evil, but if we didn't have man made things to keep us in check (ethics, basis' for right and wrong, social norms, etc.), and people just acted on their emotions and urges only, the world would be a real mess; even worse than it is now.


1) The idea that humanity is inherently evil (or something similar) aligns some pretty significant religious beliefs. I mean, that is the premise behind Judaism and Christianity (as per usual, certain sub-groups within them are exceptions). Keep in mind, "good" in its truest form is perfection according to such worldviews.

2) The rest of your statement indicates your opening premise is flawed; the fact that without outside influence restraining us, acting on our desires would make the world even worse than it is now, suggests that we are indeed inherently evil.

Now, the question is how much control do we have? If you don't have freewill, can you really commit an "evil" act? My own views align with those of my faith (...it would be really stupid to call something my "faith" if I didn't believe it =P). I believe that we are all born with freewill and hypothetically should be able to resist evil acts, but we don't and thus are all in need of redemption. This is important because if people were inherently good or if "good" and "evil" are so subjective (relative?) that they are functionally meaningless, the way one conducts both his or her own affairs, as well as how society functions, are going to be quite different than if one shares my views.
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And here I thought this was about that Devil Baby thing...
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Being ignorant is evil. I was a really evil person when I was younger. "Why am I not allowed to steal?" Or "it would be easier on my family if half the people on this city were dead."

People learn morals for a reason.
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