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Is a Romantic subplot necessary?
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I recently thought to myself when watching Strike the Blood, I'm not really watching this for the romance just for T&A, I mean I really could care less if he ended up with Yukina, Sayaka, Asagi, or whoever. And if he ended up with them all, that would be awesome. I don't know when it happened but romantic subplots have just lost their impact on me. I mean, I rewatched Love Hina like 10 times when I was 15, I used to care, but I just don't anymore. And no my girlfriend didn't break up with me or anything like that.

This hit me even further when I watched Hunger Games for the first time a few days ago. I seriously thought, I hope Katniss is just putting on an act for the sponsors, that would be interesting, otherwise this is just so cliche.

So I ask you, are romantic subplots necessary? Because it seems like just about every anime out there has some heavy romantic subplot which quickly becomes the main focus for the viewers. The 2 series, yes only 2 , that I can think of off the top of my head that have extremely little romance, or when it exists its used as a joke are Hunter x Hunter and Gintama, and both of them are really good series that have a lot of popularity. Yet just about every other series I have seen, American and Japanese, relies on romance to anchor the viewers. Even Hunter x Hunter's predecessor Yuyu Hakusho had a romantic subplot.

Ah yes, also if you can think of any animes where the last thing you are doing is shipping relationships then please post them.

And yes, even I think I am turning into a bitter old man, no need to point it out you young whippersnappers.
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I ship people in Gintama.....>.>

lol that aside. Romance sub-plots in harems are jokes to me. Strike the Blood prefect example. Romance and harems shouldn't go together in my eyes.

True romance is one on one, maybe a triangle. But a harem? Thats just making fun of romance. So thats just agh in my eyes.

Otherwise, I personally like a touch of romance in my animes.

Kuroko's Basketball though - little tiny romance subplot, but most of it is fan shipping.

So Ill say that has little romance really and I really like it..

But a good romance subplot can really make an anime better, but not make the anime. Its a nice favor to have.
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I believe a character could be developed better in a lot of cases if he/she didn't have a love interest.

I loved SAO, but I think they could have held off on the whole Asuna thing for a few more episodes. It would have been interesting to see how Kirito coped with being alone for awhile after Sachi died. It would have added to his overall development.

It's the same with a lot of other anime, it seems the love interest literally becomes half of the main characters personality, which is a shame.

Try: Fate/Zero and Blast of Tempest ( There is a love interest, but it actually adds to the story ).
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Yes. Always!
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SacredBlood77 wrote:

I believe a character could be developed better in a lot of cases if he/she didn't have a love interest.

I loved SAO, but I think they could have held off on the whole Asuna thing for a few more episodes. It would have been interesting to see how Kirito coped with being alone for awhile after Sachi died. It would have added to his overall development.

It's the same with a lot of other anime, it seems the love interest literally becomes half of the main characters personality, which is a shame.

Try: Fate/Zero and Blast of Tempest ( There is a love interest, but it actually adds to the story ).


I haven't seen Fate/Zero.

If Aika was the only love interest, then yeah, that would have added to the story. They used Aika in a way where she wasn't the love interest in the typical sense. Aika was pretty awesome. Hakaze was too until the second half.

I will also add Full Metal Alchemist, just because the romantic subplot in that is ONLY implied for like 99.9% of the anime.
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Harems shouldn't count as romance subplot though. They are fantasies of having a handful of women love you, and you have your pick of like 3+.

Romance isn't like that.
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Harems shouldn't count as romance subplot though. They are fantasies of having a handful of women love you, and you have your pick of like 3+.

Romance isn't like that.


I guess that is why I tend to like them. Never any super serious feelings or moral dilemmas, mostly just lust and laughs. Actually I'd say they are more about ambition than love considering that the main character in a harem is always a complete 'badass,' essentially it's the primal urge of wanting to conquer territory, defeat your foes, and copulate with as many desirable females as possible.

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I like real romances.

And lust/copulate with as many desirable females as possible- all that is probably why I hate hate and hate harems lol.


Then again, Im a female. So its not aiming for my ambitions lol.
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One Piece has no lovers but it is full of Romance! haha. No, the author stated there will be none of that and it's super popular, so... Still romance is part of life, and if art imitates life, then there will usually be romance in some form.
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Romance is the most relatable and easiest emotion to convey through a story. Actually, anything. (Music for example. Always singing about some girl/guy they love/like/dumped) It helps viewers become more connected to the characters themselves. There's probably better and less cliche ways to do this, of course. This isn't the case for all anime, but for the majority I'd say so.
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xxJing wrote:
I guess that is why I tend to like them. Never any super serious feelings or moral dilemmas, mostly just lust and laughs. Actually I'd say they are more about ambition than love considering that the main character in a harem is always a complete 'badass,' essentially it's the primal urge of wanting to conquer territory, defeat your foes, and copulate with as many desirable females as possible.

I disagree though. About HALF involve a useless, whiny, and completely oblivious MC that makes you wonder what those girls see in him in the first place. I will still watch the crap out of that though. Because it's anime.
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xxJing wrote:
I guess that is why I tend to like them. Never any super serious feelings or moral dilemmas, mostly just lust and laughs. Actually I'd say they are more about ambition than love considering that the main character in a harem is always a complete 'badass,' essentially it's the primal urge of wanting to conquer territory, defeat your foes, and copulate with as many desirable females as possible.

I disagree though. About HALF involve a useless, whiny, and completely oblivious MC that makes you wonder what those girls see in him in the first place. I will still watch the crap out of that though. Because it's anime.


This is also true, Harems with MCs that I have no clue why a women would like him, much less a harem full of them, boggles my mind.

At least make the MC someone that it makes sense, as a female I have no clue why all these women like some of them.
Posted 4/9/14
romance isn't necessary but it sure makes a story more interesting
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Then again, Im a female. So its not aiming for my ambitions lol.


Actually there is one romantic subplot that I can still really enjoy.

Seto no Hanayome

Just thinking about that show puts a smile on my face. The romance was there but it was oh so subtle taking a backseat to all the comedy and fun. It was technically a harem, but since Nagasumi and San were practically married, and San was such an awesome female lead , there was no reason to want to argue about who should end up with who, the anime essentially solved that problem before it began and then proceeded to give us loads and loads of fun. If more animes could just handle romance like that.

Ah yes, and Clannad, but in Clannad the romance wasn't a subplot it was an integral part of the story considering that the whole story was about growing up and the importance of family, so really it wouldn't have worked without Romance. Little Busters would have, Little Busters has no excuse.
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Haven't seen any of those animes.
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