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Is a Romantic subplot necessary?
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World God only Knows was pretty good harem. It had romance in it too, despite what some may think of the genre...
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xxJing wrote:
So I ask you, are romantic subplots necessary?


Very interesting question and topic.

For me, I tend to always search for anime with romance subplots or at least romantic tendencies.
Mostly because I feel like it makes things more interesting, and I'm probably a sucker for cliché.


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Harems shouldn't count as romance subplot though. They are fantasies of having a handful of women love you, and you have your pick of like 3+.

Romance isn't like that.

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The hook of anime is that it heavily romanticizes everything--friendships, rivalries, hatred, family, fighting, everything really. I think that's what draws people in; it's easy to become disillusioned with all of those things IRL. What's more natural to romanticize than romance? I for one enjoy a smart romantic subplot, but they are frequently poorly done, haha. A lot of shows seem to think a girl blushing and stuttering counts as romance and lean too heavily on that trope :P. I think another trap a lot of series fall into is not being able to find a balance between romance and plot development, though I imagine that the unstable nature of second seasons and episode caps must play a large part in that.

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I don't think so, no. I can dig a good romantic subplot but it's not necessary for every series by any means. Some times it can even feel out of place, depending on the themes and overall tone of the show in question.

When a romantic subplot feels like it's attached just because the writers felt obligated to have one, I have a real problem with that. Have the same problem with a lot of American movies.

It also doesn't help that 95% of the romances in anime are garbage. Awkward encounters between two hesitant individuals who somehow through the machinations of the plot eventually end up together.
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Chrono Crusade had a good one, it was there and not there.
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not at all, unless it adds depth to the story, however most romantic subplots are just there for no reasons (other than to... attract more viewers).

using strike the blood as an example, the romance subplot adds nothing to the story. it's just there for lousy comedic effect and cheesy blushing girls scenes.
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If it is well done, romance adds to the story. My favorite genre is romantic comedy, so take my opinion as biased.
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Its not necessary and often I feel it hurts the show overall if it feels tacked on. However, there are few things more satisfying that a good romance...
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it's not necessary, of course. Attack on Titan is a prime example of a show doing well without romantic subplot. Plus a lot of times it's more fun to imagine romance in a show without it.

if people want romance they can just watch the gazillion harems out there or watch a shoujo.


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I ship people in Gintama.....>.>


me too, i'm guilty of being quite a heavy shipper

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I don't think so, no. I can dig a good romantic subplot but it's not necessary for every series by any means. Some times it can even feel out of place, depending on the themes and overall tone of the show in question.

When a romantic subplot feels like it's attached just because the writers felt obligated to have one, I have a real problem with that. Have the same problem with a lot of American movies.

It also doesn't help that 95% of the romances in anime are garbage. Awkward encounters between two hesitant individuals who somehow through the machinations of the plot eventually end up together.


Yeah I definitely feel that is the problem, that a lot of shows, and considering that I mentioned Hunger Games in my original post I should say both American and Japanese shows, well the shows just often attach romance as sort of like a Happy Meal toy.

I recently watched Gundam Build fighters, it seemed like the only person in that who did NOT have some kind of significant other was the main rival / antagonist. There was a boy meets girl story attached to just about every other major character.

One Piece tends to use romance a lot, but never goes into it, so I don't know how to expand on that. It's sort of like there is a romantic subplot minefield, but everyone keeps dodging the mines. It's actually quite amusing.

I suppose actually I am not irritated by romantic subplots as a whole, just when they are that type of, who will end up with who?, or when will they finally kiss?, type of subplots attached on to animes or shows that don't need them.

A good example of a romantic subplot used correctly was Death Note. There was no genuine romance in that, there were women who had genuine feelings for the main character, but in the end he just used ALL of them for his own agenda, as tools. That helped build on his character. It's also why just about everyone seems to hate his character, but I like it, I think it makes him unique as far as a narrative goes.
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I believe a character could be developed better in a lot of cases if he/she didn't have a love interest.

I very much agree, an example would be Rin from RideBack. That show had other issues, but Rin was absolutely amazing and involving her in some kind of romantic subplot would've been hugely detrimental.

Romance can be powerful, don't get me wrong.

But if the writer is just including it, and not speaking through it, I don't think I'd miss it.


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If Aika was the only love interest, then yeah, that would have added to the story. They used Aika in a way where she wasn't the love interest in the typical sense. Aika was pretty awesome. Hakaze was too until the second half.

I agree, the second half of Blast of Tempest disappointed me rather immensely.

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Not necessary, but it makes the show more interesting...HOWEVER, I need to see that romance resolved. I need a kiss, an I love you, they need to start going out, something to make the romance worth it by the end. It does not need to be the main focus, but if there is a romantic subplot, the creators need to see it through. I'm tired of shows pulling a Strike the Blood or Infinite Stratos.
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xxJing wrote:
I recently watched Gundam Build fighters, it seemed like the only person in that who did NOT have some kind of significant other was the main rival / antagonist. There was a boy meets girl story attached to just about every other major character.


You know it's funny you mention Gundam, because I felt like the older series (talking mostly about UC stuff) usually did romantic subplots well, and I thought they made a lot of sense to include. They felt more natural and weren't laden with cliches, and were a good vehicle to show the softer side of characters who were otherwise too busy fighting a war and trying not to die to display that side of themselves. It helped them feel like more complete and believable characters. In those cases, I think that was a good use of romance in a series that otherwise had very little to do with romance.

Of course a lot of those subplots ended disastrously, particularly when it came to the MCs, but that's okay too. They still helped flesh out the characters, and maybe more importantly they had an actual conclusion, even if it wasn't a good one.

With Build Fighters specifically, yeah, I'd tend to agree with you. I never did finish that series, but I got far enough to have a similar conclusion to you as far as romance is concerned.

So yeah. When handled well romance can be a really powerful thing and help make better, more complete characters as well as adding a bit more emotional oomph to a story, but more often then not I don't think that is the case.

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