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Simulcast competition among companies
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I was just noticing that since funi started its elite subscription service they have been getting more simulcasts. Then there was daisuki too. I thought CR would end up being hurt by it but it turns out it was The anime network that got stepped on. I have not seen any simulcasts from them in a while. Cr still gets an impressive catalog but they are missing some titles for US users because of funimation. What does everyone think about this? Im glad the shows are getting licensed but I preferred it when i could use just CR for simulcasts.
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Well CR isnt hurting too bad, I mean it still got like 30 shows I can watch in the US.

Only four shows I want to watch that FUni grabbed from CR,

Which isnt too bad.
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Increase competition is good for the consumers. It makes companies like Funi and CR work hard to provide more value for their service to entice new customers and keep old customers while keeping prices competitive with each other and not strangling our wallets.
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Rito2Ru wrote:

Increase competition is good for the consumers. It makes companies like Funi and CR work hard to provide more value for their service to entice new customers and keep old customers while keeping prices competitive with each other and not strangling our wallets.

Exactly. Competition is good.

The worst thing that could happen here is for Funi and Crunchyroll to merge. Better to have multiple companies competing for our money.
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Competition is good and all.. just glad that CR got Fairy Tail that made my spring for simulcasts
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Competition is good as long as they make products available - Funmation for example is still not available in New Zealand.
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Posted 4/10/14

Assassinx89 wrote:
I thought CR would end up being hurt by it but it turns out it was The anime network that got stepped on.


Yeah, I had to cancel my TAN subscription. There was no longer a reason to have it, honestly.
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Sacae89 wrote:

Well CR isnt hurting too bad, I mean it still got like 30 shows I can watch in the US.

Only four shows I want to watch that FUni grabbed from CR,

Which isnt too bad.


what are those 4?
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Rito2Ru wrote:

Increase competition is good for the consumers. It makes companies like Funi and CR work hard to provide more value for their service to entice new customers and keep old customers while keeping prices competitive with each other and not strangling our wallets.


Agreed.
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FkYouBish wrote:


Sacae89 wrote:

Well CR isnt hurting too bad, I mean it still got like 30 shows I can watch in the US.

Only four shows I want to watch that FUni grabbed from CR,

Which isnt too bad.


what are those 4?


Riddle Story of Devil, Selector, Ping Pong, and Soul Eater Not!
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i am actually curious about the whole simulcast bidding "war". Does anyone happen to know how it works?
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i am actually curious about the whole simulcast bidding "war". Does anyone happen to know how it works?


I have no clue but I'd imagine it is probably a combination of who offers the most money while bending over the most for the company giving the license.

But that doesn't really explain how CR is able to nab easily over half of each season lately. Unless they can just license the shows rather cheaply because no one else bids on them.
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Posted 4/10/14

Koda89 wrote:
But that doesn't really explain how CR is able to nab easily over half of each season lately.


Note that Funimation is very big about dubbing the shows it gets (in addition to subbing them). Dubbing, when you're talking about a low-profit industry like anime / manga, is expensive. CR, on the other hand, focuses on subbing, and it is safe to bet that this allows them to aim for a greater quantity of shows, since they don't have to set cash aside for a dub. In addition, CR does not release anything to DVD, Blu-Ray, etc.; instead, it is partnered with the companies who do so (Sentai, Discotek, etc.), as well as their major distributor (Right Stuf). If other companies are doing all this work for you, it costs a lot less than having to do it yourself, as Funi does.
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competition is good. unfortunately i have a lot of trouble of with Funi's streaming, about twice as much as i have on CR... even when i tried their free trial it was a pain. so looks like, at least for now, i'll miss out on some of this season's anime.
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rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:


Koda89 wrote:
But that doesn't really explain how CR is able to nab easily over half of each season lately.


Note that Funimation is very big about dubbing the shows it gets (in addition to subbing them). Dubbing, when you're talking about a low-profit industry like anime / manga, is expensive. CR, on the other hand, focuses on subbing, and it is safe to bet that this allows them to aim for a greater quantity of shows, since they don't have to set cash aside for a dub. In addition, CR does not release anything to DVD, Blu-Ray, etc.; instead, it is partnered with the companies who do so (Sentai, Discotek, etc.), as well as their major distributor (Right Stuf). If other companies are doing all this work for you, it costs a lot less than having to do it yourself, as Funi does.


While I would love to argue the low profit part, I cant. Only the big guns like Funimation and Aniplex make any proper cash.

Bit its as he says! A lot of Anime never gets licensed regardless due to such low interest in addition to the heavy costs, and I mean HEAVY cost of dubbing a show. Companies like Sentai filmworks consistantly release anime subs only, while even rereleasing wellselling titles. I originally grabbed Clannad afterstory subset only, as the second half was less likely to sell than the first... that is until after story's absurdly good reviews.

Not done yet! Then you have those niche titles outside Japan. Hajime no Ippo and all other sports anine. Some of the moregeneric harems, a few smaller titles. They offer no profit to them in distribution.

Crunchyroll makes its profit on views and subscribers, offering deals and convienence over product.

As a smarter nerd than I once said. People dont think about price, only about how easily they can get what they want.

Also, if you don't want people to pirate it, offer it to them. Fansubs everywhere? BAAAAAH crunchyroll said! Have you subs done right and we'll remove the hastle! A little subscription and you get all you want every week. Not enough? Anime on you PS3 and vita too!

Its like they're bribing me into doing what I want.

Ergo, CR spends less to make more to obtain more. Unlike Funimation who prides themselves on dubbing all their shows. Cr just sits in the middle, being paid to hand out fliers. Every show CR gets increases viewers and interest without hurting the bank. They gain more and lose less.
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