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So yesterday I was watching ep2 of a certain promising looking simulcast when a character was killed. Mind you said char was introduced mainly for the sake of showing you how bad the bad guys really are. At any rate there is something about watching a character not die valiantly in a heroic sacrifice but rather get murdered on screen while pleading for their life that especially turns my stomach as I learned the hard way this morning. So it got me wondering
am i just abnormally soft or is it normal to lose your lunch over a charater kicking the bucket? What do you think?
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just reading this post reminds me of that terrorist execution video that was going around several years ago that I decided to watch for some reason.... THAT turned my stomach. I would probably have the same reaction to a similar situation in anime only because it would remind me of that video.
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Character death in anime has a weird relationship with me. If it is a male character, I only really care if it is a character I liked. But if it is cute girl, regardless of if I liked them or not, it is almost always a downer to me....
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Well everyone is different I suppose. Mattering how the character dies and how attached or not I was to said character I could be happy/ok with their death or completely pissed off.

But losing my lunch seems a tad far for me at least.
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It's a normal reaction, don't worry about it.

I couldn't watch Pupa after I saw the preview, because it disturbed me so bad.

People have different tolerances to stuff like that, so it's nothing to lose sleep over.

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Best plot device.
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I was looking over the airing shows to figure out which you were talking about and yeah. Normal reaction. I dropped the show (maybe others had episode 2 deaths). I don't like "here is character A" -> "Evil character kills character A" type things. The method of it did make me grossed out though.

I'd be more concerned if you liked it and wanted to see more scenes like it and perhaps real life things. I'm sure there are a few sadists here that like the stuff, all power to them to get their highs with animation than with people/kittens/ect, and well... I think you're about normal for a person and probably abnormal as an anime fan. Plenty anime fans I know love that gore stuff and probably even that it was one sided. Not long ago there was a show with bad story telling that was hyped to be the greatest thing since sliced bread and it was filled with that one sided violence (often).

You're fine.
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I was looking over the airing shows to figure out which you were talking about and yeah. Normal reaction. I dropped the show (maybe others had episode 2 deaths). I don't like "here is character A" -> "Evil character kills character A" type things. The method of it did make me grossed out though.

I'd be more concerned if you liked it and wanted to see more scenes like it and perhaps real life things. I'm sure there are a few sadists here that like the stuff, all power to them to get their highs with animation than with people/kittens/ect, and well... I think you're about normal for a person and probably abnormal as an anime fan. Plenty anime fans I know love that gore stuff and probably even that it was one sided. Not long ago there was a show with bad story telling that was hyped to be the greatest thing since sliced bread and it was filled with that one sided violence (often).

You're fine.


I dropped "Another" right after the first death. To much like Final Destination, pointless deaths......
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Depends on context. I thought that one was rather affecting, mostly thanks to the voice actress. But I've also laughed my head off at deaths that were supposed to make me feel terrible just because of how contrived they felt.

So it depends.
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As long as it helps the story i'm fine with it.
If it doesn't help the story at all and make it worse, then I'm dropping it because the story sucks and not because someone died.

Well, maybe I'm just desensitized with it,
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The reason for your reaction isn't unusual, though you going so far as to vomit is a bit odd. I'm not going to lie; that extreme reaction to shows, especially anime, is rare.

As long as I'm not attached to the characters, I'm not particularly bothered. Even when I do, it's the loss of the character that upsets me, not so much the means. I've yet to see an anime death that makes me feel physically ill. Anime characters being part of a cartoon makes it pretty difficult for me to take their manners of death seriously enough for an especially strong reaction. I'm fairly desensitized, too.
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Character death can be one of the best plot movers, and I wholly approve of even my favorite characters getting killed off if it means development for that character or others. A character's death can result in some top-notch emotional scenes from their loved ones, and death scenes themselves can be extremely emotionally satisfying if they're done right. Basically, if the death somehow lets me learn more about some of the characters, then I'm perfectly fine with it.

On the other hand, there are some deaths that just irritate me. The worst culprit here is killing 'extras' during action scenes: it's why I usually can't appreciate western action movies. I can't cheer for a hero who's driving cars into buildings that people might be inside of, or doing other equally irresponsible things, and any scene where any character - hero or villain - kills off a bunch of mooks (rather than just beating them up) will earn that character my instant contempt. I usually dislike deaths during action scenes in general, unless the action scene comes with some introspection or dialogue on the part of one or more of the characters. Basically, death is a big deal, and I hate when it's treated like it's not. As long as a death scene avoids that pitfall, I'm usually a-okay with it.
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For me (as with every answer I give to any question people ask me), IT DEPENDS. One one side is the Code Geass effect (how certain people die randomly and you're like "Whoa! I did NOT see that coming!"; in the middle you have FMA/MSG deaths (some people die and you're shaken by it, while others die and you either jump for joy or couldn't care less) and then on the other side you have Beast Player Erin-style deaths (where you reach for the Kleenex box because "OMG! That's SO sad!").

I personally go for the Heroic Sacrifices (complete with Heartfelt Goodbyes for the uber-feels), which is why I love shows that are between the spectrum of Fairy Tail and Claymore/Berserk (moreso the manga).
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Thanks for all the responses. As for my reaction even I was taken aback by that, hence the post. First off let me say that I'm not panning the anime in question, I think that scene just exceeded my acceptable tragedy threshold. It still remains to be seen whether the show itself is good or bad (although I'll probably wait a while before looking back into it).

Personally I must say I'm not a big fan of character death as a plot device, that being said sometimes I think it's warranted if not down right necessary. For instance when making a story taking place in "the real world/our world" where a character is already in their 80's if you do a time skip to 40 years later then it just makes sense for them to have passed by then. Stories where someone is terminally ill likewise get a bye.

My problem with death as a plot device is for a few reasons. One is because I think a lot of writers use it as a cheap way to try and trump up the drama of a story without necessarily working hard to create intelligent and naturally compelling dramatic situations and dynamics. Honestly there are a number of other ways I can think of to get a comparable amount of emotional torque without resorting to killing a character off for good.

Which brings me to another reason, death is so permanent (unless of course it isn't, which an author has to be careful about playing with, lest death become cheap; *cough* *cough* sorry got a little DBZ in my throat there ). My thing is if you've spent a considerable amount of time to develop a character (assuming the author did, otherwise death is already cheap; ie. redshirt) if you kill them off for one moment of "feels" it kinda seems like a waste since now there's so much you can't use that character for; so much the audience will never see them do (unless you make them do all kinds of stuff post-mortem which would make death... well you know).

Then last of all unless your talking about the kind of story that is supposed to have a downer ending, I must say the author is either kidding themselves or just assuming that the viewer has a one episode memory if they think they can wrap everything up with a happy ending where good triumphed, evil was vanquished, and the hands of justice were balanced once a character has been murdered. I mean maybe I over think things too much but if the scenario were real the character in question would be survived by people they meant something to whose lives would have been irreversibly altered; and no amount of killing the villain or hero x heroine ships would be able to undo it. In short, in sim-game terms, if you kill a character off in a horrible way: automatic bad end... PERIOD imho.
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Depends on the situation. Death for no reason except for violence sake (like a bunch of really trashy hyper-violent anime from the 80s and 90s) can be pretty awful as it is just not a good way to tell a story and is just bloody for bloody's sake. However, characters dying only helps move the story forward in a good series, whether it is a blaze of glory or not. If it serves an overall purpose to the plot, who cares? It is even better for characters you are supposed to like, since the emotional connection to the audience is there. Not having characters die can get boring and repetitive REAL quick. That is standard Shonen logic right there, where death is like the common cold and they will just get better from [insert plot device here.] It has nothing to do with people being "bad at drama" or anything. It just means that the character served their purpose and can be used to expand on the remaining cast of characters and the plot as a whole. Some of the best moments in anime have been character deaths when it comes to drama. :/
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