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are filler episodes really that bad ?
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Posted 4/14/14

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If Naruto/Shippuden didn't have fillers, how short in episodes would it be?! The same goes for Bleach and One Piece.


one piece is really good about filler seeing how its so huge but yeah 39% of naruto is filer and i havent watched bleach but i read its even worse
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Posted 4/14/14
i dont mind filler as long as the plot keep moving.,
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It really depends on how they're used. In Naruto, most of the fillers are completely pointless, they add nothing to the story, and aren't even that interesting. It seems like the studio isn't even trying with the fillers, they're just bullshitting them. I despise it.

Naruto is the only long running series that I'm watching so I don't know what the filler is like in shows like Bleach, One Piece, and Fairy Tale. Filler could be good if it added to the plot, showed more character development, etc. But Naruto's fillers are complete and utter crap.
Posted 4/14/14
If you enjoy them and they are interesting it should be fine? I don't watch those long shounen shows anymore (though I did start watching Naruto randomly one day last week), but I think the problem comes when they are inserted strangely, at least for some. I'll say first, some people are super purists and want the manga except animated and in full color. That is ideal for them and there is nothing else that would satisfy them.

Anyways, when I watched things with fillers - I only hated when the story they went into was boring. I imagine, and heard a certain show did the following, a filler inserted when a main villain/character is about to take the last blow happens - like a flash back before their doom for however many episodes. I find the idea of that hilarious, but I imagine those wanting to see what happens next on that kind of massive cliff hanger would feel upset.

Last, I think another big problem is that they aren't optional as they air. For die hard fans of the series, they might be very excited if random side story movies were made. They just want to see their favorite characters going on even more adventures. I imagine that those same people are the ones that are fine with fillers. In another sense, it would be fan service. It is because it interrupts the flow of the original story and if you follow it on a simulcast basis - you may have these stories that might feel useless and unimportant and so the other option is to just not watch at all.

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Posted 4/14/14
In longer shows (Bleach, DBZ, etc.) I think the filler is mostly pointless, but there's nothing wrong with a little here and there. Recent example of good filler: episode 6 of Kyoukai no Kanata. That episode is nothing but filler but probably my favorite episode from the show. Or to go old school: the entire first half of Tenchi Universe is basically filler with some character development thrown in, but I love every minute of it.

I'm not sure there is a good rule of thumb for filler, but I do know that when its included the writer runs the risk of boring a portion of the audience. That said, even characters need a break from exciting plot sometimes, so a little filler might fit into a story.
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Posted 4/14/14
I don't mind fillers, as long as they don't start randomly just as things start getting awesome and last for months *cough* Naruto *cough*...
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Posted 4/14/14 , edited 4/14/14
I don't mind fillers like those short one or 2 eps long fillers between arcs. If it is going to be long filler arc, then i hope at least the original writer at least have inputs in it so don't it don't go off in other directions too much.

For example in Fairy Tail, the Daphne arc seem a bit off since
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In Key of the Starry Sky arc, i watched through the whole arc without realizing that it is a filler. The powers seem a little bit off but the timing seems right, but it will interesting to see what will happen if Oracison Seis come back later lol
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Posted 4/14/14
some of what you call filler wasnt if memory serves it was in the manga where goku and piccolo learned to drive as a bonus chapter ( so technically not filler) and the filler thats hated is where they litterally stop natural story progression forget any and all current enemies or antagonists to solve an unrelated and off the wall problem like ever single fucking filler in Bleach
THAT is the filler thats hated
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Posted 4/14/14
also there is no filler in fairy tail other than a few single shot episodes throughout untill like ep 140 ish there is a little while the manga catches up
dont watch naruto so cant say but since the main story seems pointless to me id imagine the filler is REALLY bad
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Posted 4/14/14 , edited 4/14/14
I've watched every episode of Bleach since it began airing in the US (at one episode a week, we're up to 240 / 260-or-so). Much of that has been filler, and certain segments greatly delayed the overall plot. That said, I've generally enjoyed the filler with the following exceptions: they are typically of a lower animation quality (one segment in the notorious "Bount" arc saw Rangiku Matsumoto lose her beauty-mark), and the characters do not recur--meaning interaction with them is largely pointless.

The most glaring problem with filler in Bleach, however, is how the filler arcs are timed so that they not only interrupt the main narrative, but revert elements of the narrative that would otherwise conflict with the plot, i.e. *SPOILER* Ichigo losing his powers after the (main) Aizen arc, miraculously regaining them for a short period, and having the members of Central 46 miraculously return to life. Or having our cast of lovable Shinigami depart Waco Mundo mid-battle.

Beach and hot spring episodes are not filler, and frequently occur in their respective mangas. To counter this perception, a number of animators / writers have begun to set critical scenes / exchanges in fan-service environments (such as showers) such that they are not accidentally perceived purely as filler / fan-service.

The "Baseball" episode of Samurai Champloo likewise was not filler. It, along with the zombie-mine episode, was a scheduled aside, remarking on a topic of chief concern in the latter Edo period--much as the episode with the Dutchman, though the two events could not have happened on the same timeline in historical reality. A set of similar episodes occurred in Cowboy Bebop, sans the Edo references.
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Posted 4/14/14 , edited 4/14/14
Some fillers are pretty good, while others are truly stinkers. Basically, fillers are exactly just that: stuff to fill the time before more source material can be brought out. That said, the ones that are really bad are the random missions in Naruto that occupy the last third of the original season. The execution of those are just awful.

But there are some very good fillers out there, and I will point out that Bleach has some pretty good filler arcs there. The Bounts arc is okay, at least better than any of the Naruto fillers. The Captain Shuusuke arc is a nicely constructed story arc, and that one is definitely worth watching. And then there is the Zanpakuto arc. While it is quite a good story, it would have been better if it were not for the nonsense that happened in the last ten episodes after the main conflict was resolved. My biggest complaint about these fillers is that they happen at the wrong times (at least the Captain Shuusuke and Zanpakuto ones do, whereas the Bounts arc is nicely woven into the main storyline). But at least for fillers, these are pretty good.
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Posted 4/14/14
I really don't mind fillers. If you don't like them you can just skip them, but some of them are great, like the G8 arc of One Piece.
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Posted 4/14/14 , edited 4/14/14
Dark secret time, I sometimes like them better than I like the main plots. Episodic filler is often fun... and funny, where as the main plots are often melodramatic and dragging.
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Posted 4/15/14
Yes, they are that bad. They don't contribute to the story whatsoever, they're just there. It's like you're eating an ice cream cone, and once you get halfway through it, their is a layer of flavorless sludge between you and the rest of your delicious frozen treat.

Would you honestly enjoy that? Unless you were intending to play with your ice cream and not eat it, I doubt you would.
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Posted 4/15/14
Depends if they are good fillers or not, I find most filler story is usually crap and boring.
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