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What is your stance on anime piracy?
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Posted 4/15/14
Just thought I'd see what people thought of piracy on illegal sites or downloads.
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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 1/1/15
I honestly think people can get a bit high and mighty about certain things he or she pays for.

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As like what?
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I'm totally against it.

Probably
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Posted 4/15/14
I'll use it when it's convenient, or if there isn't any other recourse.

If I like something enough it'll then go on my buy list that I slowly chip away at, but I don't blind-buy any media.
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I don't think I can necessarily give my opinion on this since I used to be a part of the crowd...
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i would be 100% against it IF you could access everything the legal way, but often OVA and such make it impossible.
But if you get caught once, you don't want to do it again
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The simple answer is that it's wrong, it's obtaining access to something that you're not supposed to have.

But I think it's more complicated than that. Watching an episode of an anime that you didn't buy doesn't directly hurt anyone. However, downloading it instead of buying it does. The anime creators, or whoever owns the rights to it sells the show, wanting to make the money they spent on it back, and turn a profit, and really, as anime fans, we should want them to do well so they continue to make good shows, so should support them when they can.

At the same time though, I'm not going to buy a show unless I know I'm going to like it. If I can't watch it first, then forget it. Maybe if it's cheep and based off something I already like then I might, but even then. So that's why I strongly support sites like CrunchyRoll, it allows me to legally watch the anime that I love. I figured watching some advertisements is a worthwhile trade to get anime, or in the case of CrunchyRoll, a few dollars a month for a premium membership is fine, and a way for me to support the creators. Whenever I want to watch something I will check sites like CrunchyRoll, Funimation, or even YouTube to try to find it first. I would encourage other anime fans to do the same.

I would also say to the anime studios that they should provide people with legal options to stream it. While they don't have a moral obligation to, it's good business. If someone wants to watch your anime, there's a good chance they're not going to care if they have to do it illegally. So sell the rights to CrunchyRoll, put it on YouTube and get add revenue, and they make something from it. If they don't and someone watches it illegally, then they get nothing.

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Posted 4/15/14
I'll steal a show that I can't buy.
Like Megas XLR It's been mabe 10 years and no dvd, vhs, anything...So I downloaded it and no profit was lost that day.
Posted 4/15/14

excaliber007 wrote:But I think it's more complicated than that. Watching an episode of an anime that you didn't buy doesn't directly hurt anyone. However, downloading it instead of buying it does. The anime creators, or whoever owns the rights to it sells the show, wanting to make the money they spent on it back, and turn a profit, and really, as anime fans, we should want them to do well so they continue to make good shows, so should support them when they can.


Let's say a few dozen people have a rare DVD anime series - something that was on limited release only. Would the DVDs be worth more or less with infinite copies being available to download illegally? I know there is some weird hatred about selling used things in gaming/other geek hobbies because "the creator sees none of that money, may as well download LULZ" but infinite copies of something does have negative parts to it that affects other people than the creators. It is why I'm plenty happy just subscribing to CR/WSJ - I don't think anime/manga has much real value because things are pirated.

Not related to what I quoted - is entertainment an entitlement? I've imported video game OSTs. People can import things not available to them and, while their at it, learn a fun language. But, that is the hard route, so... I believe jbox has Genki textbooks to get started, but I think fans, if they even start, would rather just get the books some other way...
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I don't think it's my place to criticize anyone who goes to illegal steaming sites, reads off unofficial of scanlation sites, downloads anime/manga/LN/VN from unofficial sources, etc., but I do think it should be noted that depending on where you live (especially if you live in North America) you can buy, enjoy, watch, read these mediums of entertainment even easier and notably cheaper than before AFAIC. On my part, since I don't live in the States or Canada, I can't watch all the anime I might want to see here on CR or go on other legal sites like Funimation or Hulu to see those shows, but I'm satisfied with what I get for now. Why? Simply because I feel at ease supporting the anime/manga industry with what I can and my conscience feels at ease because I feel I'm acting on my beliefs. Plus, I'm not restricted in ordering manga or anime online as long as it's localized for the West and isn't OOP. Sure anime can be expensive in some circumstances, but in general, but most of it is easy to properly watch now if you're willing to buy it and can afford it. If I can't watch Dennou Coil here or buy it since no US licensor has picked it up as of now, so what? That doesn't stop me from looking elsewhere for entertainment with hundreds of other titles available elsewhere. And it's not like anyone's asking me to break the bank by ordering over ten boxes of LE anime off Amazon or Rightstuf. The only times nowadays I may read/watch anime/manga outside an official source is by going on Youtube and watching just one episode of an anime I can't currently watch or reading just the first chapter of fan-translation for preview purposes. That's as far as I plan to go really, and it's really rare too. Plus, even if I couldn't afford premium membership I can still be a week behind on current shows with free membership if it means the creators are getting the money they respectfully deserve. Really thankful for CR and its manga feature and hope it has a bright future ahead.
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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 4/15/14
Typically if I want to watch something I check:
Crunchyroll > Hulu > Fansub site as a last resort.

Piracy, to me, is an availability issue.
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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 4/15/14
I don't do it, sometimes to my regret, but I'm not gonna get all mad at others either.

I do always think of fansubbers (illegal) getting all preachy at greymarket purchases (legal) in the past though.
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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 1/1/15

AnimeKami wrote:

I honestly think people can get a bit high and mighty about certain things he or she pays for.



''I pay 7 dollars a month so I can act like I'm singlehandedly saving and supporting the industry and funding what you watch illegally'' kind of high and mighty?

I've seen that a few times here.
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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 4/15/14
I've never had trouble buying the stuff I want to watch - sure, back in the day it was for DVDs or VHS tapes, even. These days, I have legal streaming options, so I use those to supplement my DVD (and now Blu-Ray, and import) buying options, but I always try to stay legal, because the money I spend does go back to the folks who make the stuff I like. It's not about being high and mighty, it's about making sure that they can continue producing stuff I enjoy, so that I get to enjoy more of it later.
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