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What is your stance on anime piracy?
Posted 4/15/14
For a brief period of my life, I streamed anime by... disreputable means.. though I've stopped now. I say that just to indicate that i'm not guiltless here.

But from a North American standpoint, i'm against it now. I'm not calling for a crusade, or increased laws or anything- I just don't think its a good practice.

I look at it like speeding. Its illegal and i'm inherently against it for practical reasons, but I understand that in some scenarios it may be justified by certain circumstances. But the majority of people speeding aren't rushing to a hospital or fleeing an attacker, they just want that extra convenience that comes with going faster than what the law allows. That's probably not a very good analogy, but its the best I can come up with on short notice for how I personally look at it lol.

Not that piracy is inherently good at providing for those circumstances. I spoke primarily from the point of view of the one accessing, not the one providing access. I don't think there are very many "vigilante pirates" out there who exist solely to provide entertainment to those who can't get it in their region - but that's a funny thought lol.
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Posted 4/15/14
I only take the legal option. If a show isn't being carried legally anywhere, I simply don't watch it.
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Posted 4/15/14

Eibzz wrote:

Piracy, to me, is an availability issue.


this is pretty much the way it is with most people. give something sufficient availability at a fair price, and people will buy it instead of pirate it. this is what iTunes and other digital media distribution services have proven.

myself, I prefer to download rather than stream, but I still support services like CR by being a premium member. if CR offered a DL service as well as streaming, I would DL from CR instead of from less legal sources. unfortunately, there are some series that I have no option to even go the legal route, such like this season's Atelier Escha & Logy and Knights of Sidonia. this is when I'm forced to turn to piracy to even watch them.
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Posted 4/15/14
If you pirate something, I don't really care. Just don't start bragging about it like it somehow makes you better than all those paying peasants. Thats something I see more often on gaming sites but it is quite a despicable practice .-.
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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 4/15/14
Not really against it. It allows people easier access to anime which makes it easier to be introduced into the anime culture. I feel that the effect that piracy has on the anime industry is usually exaggerated. Studies have been done that show that piracy have actually boosted sales of anime-related products.

Of course that doesn't mean that pirating should be considered completely legal and okay to do but the point is that the repercussions that it has on the industry isn't really all that bad and doesn't hurt much in the long run.
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Posted 4/15/14

Kurodenki wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

I honestly think people can get a bit high and mighty about certain things he or she pays for.



''I pay 7 dollars a month so I can act like I'm singlehandedly saving and supporting the industry and funding what you watch illegally'' kind of high and mighty?

I've seen that a few times here.


Something like that.
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Posted 4/15/14
Well, seeing as I'm poor as hell, if it wasn't for them I wouldn't have ever met any Anime outside of TV, meaning no Moe for me. Feel like dieing just thinking about it. So simply put, I am very thankful for them Anime pirates.
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Posted 4/15/14

Eibzz wrote:

Typically if I want to watch something I check:
Crunchyroll > Hulu > Fansub site as a last resort.

Piracy, to me, is an availability issue.


Exactly the same process for me. I'll watch Hulu with their horrid commercials before I watch it on illegal streaming sites.
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Posted 4/15/14

aidenraine wrote:


Eibzz wrote:

Piracy, to me, is an availability issue.


this is pretty much the way it is with most people. give something sufficient availability at a fair price, and people will buy it instead of pirate it. this is what iTunes and other digital media distribution services have proven.

myself, I prefer to download rather than stream, but I still support services like CR by being a premium member. if CR offered a DL service as well as streaming, I would DL from CR instead of from less legal sources. unfortunately, there are some series that I have no option to even go the legal route, such like this season's Atelier Escha & Logy and Knights of Sidonia. this is when I'm forced to turn to piracy to even watch them.


But there is a legal option for Knights of Sidonia. It'll be on Netflix. Not right now, of course, but they'll be hosting it.

Unless you don't have Netflix access.....
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Posted 4/15/14

DarkRequiem1 wrote:

Not really against it. It allows people easier access to anime which makes it easier to be introduced into the anime culture. I feel that the effect that piracy has on the anime industry is usually exaggerated. Studies have been done that show that piracy have actually boosted sales of anime-related products such as DVDS.


I think that there are only very few reasons to pirate, and they Include:
1) Not available in your country.
2) Not sold by a retailer anymore( Non Purchasable)
3) *Rarely available that price of item is unreasonable to consumers.*
3rd one in asterisks because in only applies in certain situations.
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Posted 4/15/14
Sometimes it's necissariy, like when there is no legal option to purchasing/viewing an anime. But if there is (say it's available on Crunchyroll), then I think it shouldn't be done. Though, I don't care much about how other people watch their anime. It's none of my business.
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Posted 4/15/14
Well, I used to do it all the time when I was just getting started with anime, mostly with One Piece (BEFORE Funimation offered streaming). However, ever since I discovered Crunchyroll, I've found that most of the shows I want to watch are being streamed through it, Hulu, or even Netflix. I only use fansubbing sites as a last resort, and I haven't had to for months.
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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 4/15/14


there's no legal option for Knights of Sidonia NOW, though. personally, I'd rather watch an anime when it's airing then try to catch up on it, because I'm less likely to watch it then. I just find it easier to watch things weekly then in large chunks.

I also do not currently have a Netflix account.
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Posted 4/15/14
Well right now i am in US so i am doing it the legal way, but if i go back to my country for the summer and want to watch anime, i will probably have to pirate simply because there is no reliable way to legally get one. Buy it online and ship it to my country ? Hell, half of my college acceptance letter only arrived at my country half a year later when the college already started, so shipping will probably be as unreliable. Even the "official" anime and videogame shop in my town is literally just pirated CDs with fake covers to make it look legit to clueless people.
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Posted 4/15/14
If it's not on crunchyroll I don't usually watch it so it's never been a problem. That being said when I first started watching anime I pirated a lot and felt like a dirtbag.
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