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Mentally challenged kid taken to court for wire tapping!?
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What are your thoughts on this?

Essentially, a mentally challenged kid was being bullied at school, and he managed to get an audio recording of the bullying on one of the iPads issued by said school. Later on, his mum ('mom' to whoever isn't from the UK) sent the recording to the principal, and he called the police around to the kid's house and the police charged the boy with wiretapping. This then proceeded to get taken to court and the kid was found guilty. The police lowered the charges to something lower, but essentially the teachers who did nothing while this was happening, the principal, and the judge all found HIM to be in the wrong because there was an expectation of privacy in the classroom. I think it's fucking disgusting, personally.

If you want the video that made me bring this up, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1bv9gOsNI

News Article: http://aattp.org/special-ed-student-who-recorded-bullies-tormenting-him-accused-of-felony-wiretapping/

Moral of the story? If you're being bullied, don't stand up for yourself, the law would like to have a word with you and punish you like the filthy victim you are.
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He broke the law though didn't he? There could have been other ways to go about solving the problem right?
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He broke the law though didn't he? There could have been other ways to go about solving the problem right?


So the teacher did nothing to stop it, there was evidence of him being abused, and he got in trouble for being bullied. In what sick, fucked up world can you think that's acceptable!?
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The video described him as a pacifist. He himself did not raise the problem to the degree it should have. And I can imagine the kind of complaints he raised. The parents could have been more forceful, without a need for the recording.
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The video described him as a pacifist. He himself did not raise the problem to the degree it should have. And I can imagine the kind of complaints he raised. The parents could have been more forceful, without a need for the recording.


But that recording was solid evidence that he was being bullied. I studied law and know for a fact that that verbal harm is considered assault. Do you not think it's wrong that the bullies got off scot-free? These are kids for crying out loud, the bullies obviously know they're in the wrong, how is the mentally challenged kid to have the first clue about what wiretapping is!?
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But that recording was solid evidence that he was being bullied. I studied law and know for a fact that that is considered assault. Do you not think it's wrong that the bullies got off scot-free? These are kids for crying out loud, the bullies obviously know they're in the wrong, how is the mentally challenged kid to have the first clue about what wiretapping is!?

What is stopping the parents from pressing charges?

The video you linked says to fight back and stuff. Well, no. Don't break the law. That's just dumb.
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Bullying in America is terrible. There are numerous cases where children are being bullied and the school and authority do nothing about it. So, this particular case doesn't surprise me at all. How can a child get in trouble with the law because he was obtainig evidence of personal bullying? It's really messed up.
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Who bullies mental kids in the first place? Those kids must be like... demons or some shit.

I for one would probably have to put these kids in their place for messing with this poor kid.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:
But that recording was solid evidence that he was being bullied. I studied law and know for a fact that that is considered assault. Do you not think it's wrong that the bullies got off scot-free? These are kids for crying out loud, the bullies obviously know they're in the wrong, how is the mentally challenged kid to have the first clue about what wiretapping is!?

What is stopping the parents from pressing charges?

The video you linked says to fight back and stuff. Well, no. Don't break the law. That's just dumb.


But what I'm saying is how was the kid to know he was breaking the law in the first place? As far as he was concerned he was doing something to try and put an end to being treated like crap. I'm not even taking this any further with you because the fact you find this acceptable disgusts me.
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Oh how this country never cease to amaze me with the amount of stupidity that it has.


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Posted 4/15/14 , edited 4/15/14
It's pretty messed up. All of those in authority who punished the victim rather than the ones who really deserve it need to vacate their positions immediately. I can't even begin to accurately describe how this makes me feel. For the bullying to be so out in the open right in front of the teacher and other students and have the teacher just go along with it? It's just sick.


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The video described him as a pacifist. He himself did not raise the problem to the degree it should have. And I can imagine the kind of complaints he raised. The parents could have been more forceful, without a need for the recording.


It doesn't always do anything. There is only so much a parent can do besides just removing the kid from the school and that doesn't help any of the other kids who are in the same situation of being bullied with no help from the school. There was no need for the recording because the bullying happened right in front of at least one teacher if you read the article. The fact is the school didn't do their job in protecting this kid. It shouldn't be on the parents to force it and make it so widely known that it forces the school to actually do something about it.


devouringdragons wrote:

Bullying in America is terrible. There are numerous cases where children are being bullied and the school and authority do nothing about it. So, this particular case doesn't surprise me at all. How can a child get in trouble with the law because he was obtainig evidence of personal bullying? It's really messed up.


That's how it was for me when I was getting bullied in school. It seems not much has changed beyond the fact that I am glad I never tried to get proof in such a way I guess. My mom repeatedly went to the schools principle and teachers begging them to do something and letting them know exactly who was doing it. Even if it was simply putting me in a different class or bus or something it was all we wanted to be done. Instead what happened was nothing.
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But what I'm saying is how was the kid to know he was breaking the law in the first place? As far as he was concerned he was doing something to try and put an end to being treated like crap. I'm not even taking this any further with you because the fact you find this acceptable disgusts me.

"I didn't know I was breaking the law" is not a legitimate legal defense. Ask any lawyer.

The fault lies with the parents of this boy.

The student and his mother, Shea Love, testified before the magistrate that the boy has been repeatedly shoved and tripped at school, and that a fellow student had even attempted to burn him with a cigarette lighter.
You know, after that, take it to the police...

If you actually think I am defending bullies, well I'm not. Don't break the law. "Oh, I had a good excuse". If you do, get a lawyer ready. If you break the law, you get charged. That's the way it works.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:
But what I'm saying is how was the kid to know he was breaking the law in the first place? As far as he was concerned he was doing something to try and put an end to being treated like crap. I'm not even taking this any further with you because the fact you find this acceptable disgusts me.

"I didn't know I was breaking the law" is not a legitimate legal defense. Ask any lawyer.

The fault lies with the parents of this boy.


So essentially you think 'fuck the kid being bullied, he deserves more punishment' because that's literally all I'm drawing from this?
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how about Video recordings on cameras everywhere? What do you think about that, this recording could of saved his life. No one really knows how far a bully will take it. A recording of any kind should be helpful. Sometimes laws just suck.
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