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Interestingly enough, I think it's these unreal standards that some people develop over time that prevents them from having an IRL relationship. So they turn to 2D relationships which for the most part these characters are incredibly unrealistic.


That's precisely it, in my opinion.

Take media - we see idealized women (and men, to a lesser extent) being portrayed all the time. The perfect, gorgeous supermodel that simply doesn't exist in real life unless they wear a metric ton of make-up and cosmetic surgeries, the submissive, obedient wife that is a major part of the western mindset.

So when people try to find someone that matches this idyllic beauty and submissive, obedient woman? They don't find it. They don't find that perfect figured woman who does exactly as they say - because that simply doesn't exist in any meaningful quantity.

A lot of it comes to an unwillingness to change themselves though; a lot of people that I know who DO have actual romantic interest in fictional characters are not good people. They're the "I'm such a nice guy, why doesn't she date me!?" guys. But if you have to say "I'm a nice guy" you are not a nice guy. If your only selling point for why a girl should date you is because "I'm nice", then you need to really work on yourself. Relationships are not about a guy "getting a woman" because he was nice - if you're being nice to get dates you're not actually nice. Relationships are about people getting along together.

So you can be a total creep and find a fictional, 2D wife that doesn't care - she's okay that you'd follow her around to make sure she doesn't talk with any other guys, or that you'd yell at her if you saw her chatting with another guy, or that you'd cling to her and tell her that "I'll be miserable without you" (clinging is pretty abusive, as it makes the other feel as if leaving the relationship isn't an option - meaning they'll stay even if they aren't happy).

Your 2D wife won't mind if you are a complete jackass or a nice guy - because you don't want her to.

It's a mixture of unrealistic standards and also of being a "nice" guy - you aren't desirable yourself so you tell yourself they aren't what you want anyways, and get your perfect imaginary friends to love instead.
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2D girls are amazing, they don't get sick.

They get sick if you don't feed them or make them exercise.
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Wow i didnt know i was on 4chan
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pvcconvoy wrote:
2D girls are amazing, they don't get sick.

They get sick if you don't feed them or make them exercise.


They get sick if you pour a cup of water over them.
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FiestyTurtle wrote:


bathroom64 wrote:


pvcconvoy wrote:
2D girls are amazing, they don't get sick.

They get sick if you don't feed them or make them exercise.


They get sick if you pour a cup of water over them.


or if their name is Nagisa Furukawa lol
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I'm somewhat bored so I'll answer your questions:

Let me just say now that I mean no offense, if you feel offended it was not my intent and I am sorry in advance



*how did you find out you prefer 2d? or why did you give up on real people?

-Hmm, I believe I have always been into 2-D girls, it's not that I dislike 3-D girls or anything though, I actually do like them as well.



*why do some people prefer 2d girls?

-I can only speak on my behalf since I dislike speaking on others, but to answer you question why I prefer 2-D girls: I'm not entirely sure I just find 2-D much more appealing than any 3-D girl, also if I had to choose say my anime over a 3-D girl (you may use your imagination to choose whatever scenario you wish) I would easily turn down a 3-D girl friend (or whatever scenario you choose) without question.
I can guess several reasons as to why I prefer 2-D over 3-D, but that would take to much time and I don't wanna waste time speculating on the matter. so lets move on to the next question.



*whats better about 2d than 3d?

-Not an easy thing to answer since the question is a bit to vague for me, it's not really I find one better than the other, after all they both have there Pros. & Cons., I mean I like 3-D girls but I also like 2-D girls. Sorry if that does not make much (or no) sense.



*view on dating-sims and eroge/ visual novels

I've played several and I liked every one I've played I like the stories, I like the characters, I like the plot (both of them *nudge nudge wink wink*), I like the art, I love the twist the turns the adventures and the feels trips, honestly I find no reason why I would dislike them. I haven't played a lot and there are ones I would love to play but prob never will get the chance but those are my thought on the ones I have bought and played thus far.



*do your friends know or how do you go on about it with friends. also are your friends into that?

I wouldn't know, not like I hide the fact that I love anime manga games and so on and I'm sure at least 1 or 2 of my friends do know or at least assume but I just never had a reason to bring such a topic up. I do think that few of them do know and I think I have actually stated it before (if I recall correctly) but whether they belive me or not is up to them. I generally don't care what they think about it, I like what I like and that's good enough for me.



I do hope this helps you somewhat and all that jazz, anyhow have a good day/morning/night/some-other-fourth-thing.
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I'm married to my wife, and have a waifu.

First let me say if you have a new waifu every other season - that's a crush, not a waifu.
First waifu 8 years. (longer than the avg IRL marriage, and before the term waifu existed)
Current waifu 5 years and counting.
Married to an actual 3d girl 6 years and counting.

For me a waifu (or husbando!) isn't just looks, personality and actions have to be a sort of ideal and something that you can look up to.
An inspirational character. For some people that character could be considered a muse.

My IRL 3D wife likes and personally identifies with my waifus, and sees part of herself in them; idealism, moral strength, empathy.
She also cosplays both my current and former waifus because she wants to, likes the characters, and looks damn good as them. ❤

3D isn't so bad in 2D emulation mode! (Cosplay)

My wife also has a waifu.
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I'm really curios to know who's your waifu
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I'm really curios to know who's your waifu


I'm more curious to know who's his wife's waifu
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^ true, for research of course lol
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I'm really curios to know who's your waifu

(Spoilers are actual show spoilers, so don't click em! Go watch both shows if you have not, they are great! They are both enjoyable by everybody regardless of tastes, successfully mixing every genre)

Shidou Hikaru from "Magic Knight Rayearth"
Compassion for all creatures, innocence, optimism, unwavering morals...

Ranka Lee from "Macross Frontier"
Compassion for all creatures, optimism, innocence, unwavering morals...


I've discovered it's a recurring theme that I'm attracted to. Personally I think I am too cynical and logical at times, and need that compassion and moral strength in my life.
3D real wife has much of the same aspects, but she's still working on doing the spoiler section. I'm sure she will figure out how to do that.

Oh my Wife's Waifu: Lenneth Valkyrie from "Valkyrie Profile". She has a thing for dignified kuudere girls in armor, Norse mythology, bit a tragedy, and females that are strong in their own way that isn't a "Beat men at their own game" ego fest. Also likes that she is slightly short (like her) but still a bad ass.

IE, sorta like Saber

I better answer the actual questions:
*how did you find out you prefer 2d? or why did you give up on real people?
I'll take the best of both worlds, thxplz.

*why do some people prefer 2d girls?
Other than what other people have listed, I am adding inspirational characters that you look up to, or muse aspects

*whats better about 2d than 3d?
2D is super cute. But cosplay can bridge the gap with a bit of imagination: 2D emulation mode FTW.

*view on dating-sims and eroge/ visual novels
Awesome. But more of these games need to come to the US. Especially Otome games. Females don't get enough of em here. I support my fujoshi friends. Because fangirls are fungirls. And to the guys out there: if you indulge a fangirl's fetish, she is more likely to indulge yours. Cosplay some shameless yaoi.

*do your friends know or how do you go on about it with friends. also are your friends into that?

Only my close friends.
Do my IRL friends have waifus and such? No. I usually do my waifu obsessing on twitter or at anime conventions.
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Personally i can understand both.

I think that it is perfectly fine to prefer "2D" girls.

I went through a phase when I was 13 that i was in love with Temari from Naruto lol.

Their are just things that 2D girls can't offer. (Aside from the obvious ones) They can't offer any type of significant partnership.

I would take a bullet for my girlfriend, because I love her and she loves me. This however cannot be said about 2D girls.

No matter how much I wanted Temari, Asuna, etc... they will never be able to return that affection.

So personally I think that 2D affection is merely a phase most people go through due to the girls perfection. This phase is usually gotten over the first time you really fall in love with a "3D" girl.

I don't mean to sound so serious, lol. I just though this was avery interesting topic.
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The most interesting forum I've come across on this site.
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PanchoArr wrote:

Hi everyone! I'm writing a paper for my Class about love. I didn't want to write the same old boring concept so I decided to explore the concept of "virtual love." I want to know why some people here prefer the girls in anime/manga, movies, or tv shows over the "real deal." No one is here to judge, I just want real data and opinions to write a non-biased essay about this topic. The questions I'm looking to explore are:

*how did you find out you prefer 2d? or why did you give up on real people?

*why do some people prefer 2d girls?

*whats better about 2d than 3d?

*view on dating-sims and eroge/ visual novels

*do your friends know or how do you go on about it with friends. also are your friends into that?

* I'll be coming up with more questions as my creative juices get flowing

I want to hear everyone's opinions and thoughts about this subject.

If you come up with other questions feel free to ask them


1. It was a change in what I fapped to really. I don't watch porn so after 2010 the things I fapped to gradually shifted from girls I knew to anime girls I knew. I was an imaginative child. I may have grown up with these hentai adverts being plastered in every corner of my home site of newgrounds but I fapped to them only as porn. It was all about what I imagined doing to them rather than what they were - I fapped to the same things with people I met in real life too.

2. I like a clear face in a girl.That translates will into anime as character's are overly simplified and don't have flaws such as freckles and spots.In a way, 2d is beauty in it's purest form. There are still people in real life who I find more attractive than 2d characters but there are more anime girls than there are girls in my local town.

3. Nothing is better. It's just that there are less flaws. If you like flaws in a woman then you can prefer real women. - though most peopl prefer real women because of greater interactivity. 2d is beauty in it's purest form but things like alchohol in it's purest form will kill you so it's not always the best thing.

4. Dating sims can be fun but I look at them as games. You're not meant to fall in love with these characters - you're meant to gain their trust and advance the game like you do in any other game. As eroge though, I dislike the stuff. As I said, I don't watch porn. I switch those scenes off if I get the option.

5. No way. I don't even tell the 2 people I trust most in the entire world. I'm in love with Alice but I dont want to be compared to the people who go on about their waifus and stuff like that. I love Alice but I value her opinion - I don't pretend that the 4th wall isn't there. Most people just idolise thier loves. They pretend their loves are with them with photos and pillows but they're only getting 1 side of the conversation. that isn't love to me. I fell in love with Alice because I met her and both of us knew that we loved each other. I want to be with my love. I want to feel her like everybody else does with their girlfriends. I will see her in my dreams where there is no 4th wall. I will always be looking and always be waiting. Maybe one day I can live in Gensokyo with her - even then it doesn't matter where we are as long as we have each other.

As for my friends - I don't know. I personally don't want to know.


Sorry to go off on a tangent about waifus.
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