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Post Reply Why Oreimo is a better story backwards.
Zimron 
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Posted 4/17/14 , edited 8/18/14
Ok, So heres the story of Oriemo Forwards.

Protagonist has a sweet girl who hese been friends with for 10+ years, has a bad relationship with his sister, Discovers a secret she has and agrees to help her out, becomes familiar with many girls during this time, Gets into a lot of troubles and gets mistreated by sister while trying to mend their relationship, Starts dating one of the girls, sister gets mad, he gets dumped, girls begin confessing to him one after the other, he turns them all down for his sisters sake, loses his best friend of 10 years after falling in love with his sister, plays pretend with his sister for a month or so then they decide to be normal siblings, has good relationship with sister but not anyone else really, the end.

Ok now lets try that in reverse.

Protagonist has good relationship with sister, falls in love with sister but breaks it off, re-unites with his friend of 10 years, has several girls confess to him out of nowhere, he turns them down but they all become friends, makes his sister angry and she begins mistreating him, he ignores it and gets himself a girlfriend. gets his sister new friends to occupy her time, Sister resents him and starts ignoring him, he lets go of the secret he and his sister had and moves on, has a girlfriend a bunch of friends and his oldest friend, begins living out peaceful high school days until graduation. the end.
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Yes, because Ruri route would've been the best route. Iffound it awfully sad and dissapointing to see how things turned out for childhood-friend-chan in the forward version.
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Still trying to forget those last 3 eps which, imo, destroyed the whole anime(even though everyone knew this was coming)
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It's an open secret that the "real" ending conveyed through subtext alone because censorship is that the incest relationship is totally still going except they're keeping it secret.

Doesn't actually change the fact that OP speaks truth, tho - incest is not wincest.
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Different endings is why I like the Oreimo game.
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My close relationship with my younger sister gives me the experience to say both ending are horrible. The se one is especially needlessly dark.

What ever happened to siblings justbeing siblings?

Why does fiction assume only twins are similar? Good strong sibling bonds and shit.

No game no life looks to be doing it right this season.
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Felstalker wrote:

My close relationship with my younger sister gives me the experience to say both ending are horrible. The se one is especially needlessly dark.

What ever happened to siblings justbeing siblings?

Why does fiction assume only twins are similar? Good strong sibling bonds and shit.

No game no life looks to be doing it right this season.


I just assume that the whole imouto-onii chan trend was started and is maintained by people that don't have younger sisters.
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Felstalker wrote:

What ever happened to siblings just being siblings?


Hah no kidding. My sister is probably the person I care about most on this planet, but she'll always be a rotten little booger-face to me.
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Angerudusto wrote:


Felstalker wrote:

My close relationship with my younger sister gives me the experience to say both ending are horrible. The se one is especially needlessly dark.

What ever happened to siblings justbeing siblings?

Why does fiction assume only twins are similar? Good strong sibling bonds and shit.

No game no life looks to be doing it right this season.


I just assume that the whole imouto-onii chan trend was started and is maintained by people that don't have younger sisters.


Japan DOES have a low birth rate after all, lots of single children there .
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Not another one. Seriously, what were you people expecting from a series who title translates to "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." I repeat "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." Why are people shocked by how this series ended? How can you read that title and not think the series was going to be an incest story?
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EJHicks wrote:

Not another one. Seriously, what were you people expecting from a series who title translates to "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." I repeat "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." Why are people shocked by how this series ended? How can you read that title and not think the series was going to be an incest story?


Incest doesn't bother me... I don't like the series because Kirino was the worst tsundere ever; she wasn't even slightly likeable.

If they did the show backwards, she would still be irritating, but she would end up at least ignorable by the end.
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What annoys me the most is they go to the trouble to dispel stereotypes about Otakus being perverts and that the real world and fantasy are separate and then they throw it all in the trash by admitting that Kirino's hobby was not just harmless fantasy but an outlet for her unhealthy unresolved feelings with her brother, which they later embrace.

To me the story makes the most sense if you just skip the second season. If it ends where Kyousuke comes to the U.S to pick up Kirino because she's not doing well, then it basically shows that their relationship has come full circle, and that they're close like they were when they were kids. At this point the back story that Kirino and Manami got into a fight because Manami said she couldn't marry her brother is dismissable as Kirino being a young child and not fully understanding what she is saying, and Manami straightening her out on the subject.
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Oreimo is weird because it is good because it is bad, but it is also bad because it is bad. The author wrote this in probably the most bleak and realistic fashion he could have, everything turned out like shit, as you would expect it to. That is good writing, primarily because other people are afraid to tackle a story in that fashion.

On the other hand, because he decided to write it that way it totally destroys the respect you have for some characters. I didn't know it was possible, but I hated Kirino at the end of the show more than at the beginning. Now that is progress, when you can cause crap to regress.
While I started off liking Kyousuke, I thought he was a complete idiot by the end of the story. The story would have been more pleasing if Kyousuke had chosen ANY of the girls other than Kirino. If he broke up with Kuroneko to be with Ayase, it would have worked. If he realized he liked Manami, cliche but would have worked. If he ended up with Saori, actually I think this probably would have been the most interesting of the tasteful outcomes.

The author however decided to use his balls instead of his heart, and went toward a rather destructive ending. I respect him for it, but at the same time I feel like it was a waste.
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Posted 4/17/14

EJHicks wrote:

Not another one. Seriously, what were you people expecting from a series who title translates to "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." I repeat "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." Why are people shocked by how this series ended? How can you read that title and not think the series was going to be an incest story?


Aren't people interesting? You can name a series, "How My Little Sister Killed All My Friends" and people would wonder who is killing his friends.

Ray Charles could probably have an idea to which girl Kyousuke would pick, that's how utterly blatant it is. I can understand being upset about them becoming "normal siblings" that get along, but you're honestly mad that he didn't pick "Kuroneko"!?

At the end of the day, i love this series and it's not a better story backwards. I only got upset when i read the light novel and realized they became "normal siblings", but guess what...i got over it. I wouldn't swear off the entire series because of an ending i didn't prefer.
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EJHicks wrote:

Not another one. Seriously, what were you people expecting from a series who title translates to "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." I repeat "My Little Sister Can't Possibly be This Cute." Why are people shocked by how this series ended? How can you read that title and not think the series was going to be an incest story?




Because the series was focused on their actual relationship as siblings, ones who had distance between them. The incest thing was treated as a gag and was not portrayed to be taken seriously.


The show even admitted that Kirinos' pervy otaku habits were indeed harmful, the MC admitted that his father was right to worry about his daughter for playing eroge as a young teen. It showed the isolation that could come about from fully delving into otaku culture.


It seems everyone who just gets offended by others having problems with incest always use the "but it was in the title all aloooooooong!" defense, but either they were watching an entirely different show, or didn't choose to pick up on the actual story as it was being portrayed because they were so invested in seeing Kirino get boned by her brother.


So yeah, people are naturally going to be miffed when the story then turns around and gives them the middle finger.

Or, put in another way:


To show did to viewers what Kuroneko did to the MC.
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