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Flaws in anime
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Creator of that topic here, lol. Yeah, for the most part I definitely find that if someone or a multitude of people criticise a show and I see those criticisms, I'm far less likely to enjoy it. Guilty Crown would be an example of that. Though it doesn't happen all the time. I saw a lot of negative reviews for Zettai Karen Children (the original 50 episode show) but tried it out anyway since I enjoyed 'The Unlimited' spinoff, and enjoyed it regardless.
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I honestly believe some flaws are worth the watching
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I usually hate characters who are insanely strong. That's really boring. This doesn't mean that I like other characters, I just don't like to roll my eyes watching an anime. More often than not, instead of getting me involved in the pace, my attention drifts and I feel detached from what I'm watching.
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It's pretty easy for me to separate what I like from what is good.

Things that influence what I like in anime:
- Theme (mech, mystery, sci-fi, fantasy etc)
- Art style
- personal relevance


Imma like what Imma like. Deal with it =)

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Flaws in Anime.... All the important main characters look or are white.... All the villains or the retarded characters look japanese... Conspiracy much?
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josiah_sarunn wrote:

I read reviews of animes, I usually combine my own judgement with theirs. So when I read people's reviews pointing out the flaws in School Days I ended up not watching it due to my own experience with harems.

But yes, I was enjoying Bleach until I read comments that pointed out how horribly stupid Orihime is - and I agreed. It's just terrible I had to drop the anime after reading that comment, so I feel pretty conflicted about it.


So you didn't think Orihime was stupid until someone pointed it out? I feel like something is very wrong about that x)
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I do take what other people say in an anime before actually watching. For me, that's generally how I pick animes that have already finished airing. It's bad, I know, but I don't want to waste my time on a terrible anime that I'd likely drop 2-3 episodes later.
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Nah, do not care anymore. Frankly, I think people are just anal.
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So, who determines what anime are good or bad? How does said entity determine what is good or bad?

Opinion: Show X is highly flawed and bad for it. You can't enjoy it without being realistic about its flaws, and should not treat it like it's a critical masterpiece. As a fandom we should separate the "good anime" from the "bad anime."

Fact: YOU determine what anime are good or bad by how much YOU enjoy or don't enjoy the show. It really is that simple. There's many critically acclaimed movies I find to be bad or generally uninteresting. There's also several critically panned films I find very enjoyable. Their ratings of the movies don't tell me how I feel about them; they only reflect how they personally feel.

There's no such thing as a universally good or universally bad anime. Anime "quality" is unique to the individual watching. There exists no metric by which one can determine "quality anime" across the fandom. The reason why is because people are unique individuals with their own tastes and preferences and like what they like. What may be a flaw for one could be a positive for another. Let's be realistic about this fact and celebrate our diversity as people. We should not beat people up over liking something we don't like or vice versa.

I don't care what others think about "flaws" in the anime I enjoy because those "flaws" are unique to what they see in the show. Sometimes I agree with flaws critics bring up, but they don't spoil my enjoyment of the show. What is or is not a flaw is highly subjective in many cases. Additionally, how much the flaws detract from the show is also highly subjective to the person watching. Really, it is only a flaw if the person watching finds it to detract from his/her personal enjoyment of the show. That's not to say that something can't be poorly executed, because it can, but that being executed less than perfectly does not automatically make it bad or unenjoyable. People are flawed beings and produce flawed media. Nothing is perfectly executed and not everything is aiming to be a critically acclaimed work.
Posted 4/19/14
In replying to some things I saw,

I don't like the idea of "nothing is perfect, so I'll give it a 9/10." If I saw scores based on enjoyment alone then opinions of others might be worth something to me. A pass fail system of "this show was worth my time and I think others should check it out!" As most sites with reviews go - people that dislike a show can immediately give it a 1 where as people that think it may be one of their favorites may give it a 9 for that, "NOTHING IS PERFECT IN LIFE" reason. To me, a 1 vs a 4 as far as anime goes has no meaning, so it is hard to distinguish what I should and shouldn't watch with how the score averages goes by majority opinion.
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reading other people's opinion of an anime doesn't really change my liking for the anime. for example a lot of people say Flowers of Evil has crappy art... but to me... the art was the best component of that anime. I don't think I would have liked or even watched the anime if it was animated more accurately to the manga's version.

like ppl say, 'one man's trash is another man's treasure'. for me, flowers of evil is perfect in every way... from the animation, to the direction of the close-up scenes... the emotions... the dialogues... everything is perfect.





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In small doses, no. If you're taking in peoples' opinions 24/7, you're going to be influenced as studies on social control states.
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Ryuouka wrote:


josiah_sarunn wrote:

I read reviews of animes, I usually combine my own judgement with theirs. So when I read people's reviews pointing out the flaws in School Days I ended up not watching it due to my own experience with harems.

But yes, I was enjoying Bleach until I read comments that pointed out how horribly stupid Orihime is - and I agreed. It's just terrible I had to drop the anime after reading that comment, so I feel pretty conflicted about it.


So you didn't think Orihime was stupid until someone pointed it out? I feel like something is very wrong about that x)

It may have been something that was in the back of his mind, but those posts brought those thoughts into clear focus and made it impossible for him to ignore from that point onward.

Frankly, I encountered a similar situation with Manami in Oreimo. I liked her in the first series, but as the second one progressed, I found myself feeling a bit more ambivalent. Then I came across a little mini-essay about by someone about how she wasn't so nice, and found myself nodding my head in agreement with the points made. (I wish I had saved a link to that message). While that didn't make me stop watching the series, it certainly changed my opinion on her character. (Although as noted, it was already veering in that direction).




14383421 wrote:

I don't like the idea of "nothing is perfect, so I'll give it a 9/10." If I saw scores based on enjoyment alone then opinions of others might be worth something to me.

The only reason I've never given a show a 10/10 on MAL is because they chose to use the term "masterpiece" for that rating. All their other ratings are labeled with more subjective terms, but to me, "masterpiece" doesn't fit. I really wish they would change to something like "amazing" or "incredibly great" that would be more in line with their other label ratings.

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For a while it did. I get swayed by outside influences easily and it took me a while to realize that was happening.

I really liked Star Driver. But some people didn't. They said Wako was bland, and Takuto was too OP, and the show's formula of beat up a bad guy every day was boring. And I actually fell for that and dropped it for a while. But I actually still like the show, and kept thinking about it, and after a while, I realized, these opinions don't matter to me at all. I love the gimmicky transformations, and the crazy secret organization, and this island that doesn't make any sense.
I thought Wako was cute, Takuto's OP didn't bother me, and the show was most certainly not boring. It was never about leveling up and defeating more powerful opponents. From the get go, Takuto was the strongest. The show wasn't about the bad guys, it was about slowly revealing the mystery of who the Kiraboshi were, who Takuto was, what the deal with the island and the robots was.

:I After that I've taken care to think carefully about what I actually think before dropping a show.
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