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Thirst for Violence
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Posted 4/20/14

KamisamanoOtaku wrote:

Yeah, if I wasn't clear I found your honesty (about lying) refreshing. I also got that you meant the comment at the beginning of the quote chain (that I didn't quote... perhaps I should have) was indeed true; its just that someone calling you a liar wasn't wrong, it just didn't mean you were lying in this instance.

Did that make any more sense?


Yes.
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Reading all your responses makes me feel like i might have some kind of psychological problem. I don't know why but when i am talking with people or just alone there is this weird primal urge to just do those sadist violence on something that came up randomly ever since i was a kid. Well I never been in a fight before and i rather not get into one but the urge just always came up randomly, i am not a sadist either i hate gory anime, over ridiculous violence video like that God of War that all my friends recommend, and i am a vegetarian who really hate seeing dead animals . Thankfully i never acted on it and the urge is pretty weak and i usually just think to myself "Why on earth do i think like that' , or else i will probably in a mental institute or prison long ago. My only explanation / theory for this urge is just all the pented up anger that i always save up thanks to trolls in Dota 2 being released randomly.
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I think our society has our issues backwards nowadays - in more ways than one. For instance, if someone pisses you off, you both start cursing at each other, and then start shoving, it always leads to a fight in that EXACT order. To me that is just barbaric and stupid. If something can't be solved with words, it is probably a stupid argument in the first place.
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I've been in like 2-3 fights in my whole life. I kind of wish it happened more often? Sounds sick when I say it like that, but it's weird. No one wants to fight me cuz I'm a huge dude who plays football, 6'4" 295 lbs of fat and muscle. But yeah, I release that thirst for violence when I play football on the field, playing any contact sport really is a good way to release.
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Posted 4/20/14
violence is natural and i have many scars from partaking of it. having some blood on your hands feels amazing! i have however seen terrible things happen to friends so sometimes things get sketch.

but hell ya feels amazing. all power to you in your violent exploits
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Posted 4/21/14
For beginning martial artists fights are always about the other person. Winning. Ego. Revenge for a good shot (or maybe a cheap shot). As though any of those things actually had anything to do with your fighting ability.

Eventually, if you have excellent training, most people demographically aren't much of a challenge for you. The road branches at that point. You either become full of yourself, gladly sitting on your throne of meager accomplishments, or the conflict becomes irrelevant.

If you're fortunate enough that it becomes irrelevant, you challenge yourself in ways that other people can't. Sparring with pads is not a true expression. Sparring without pads limits the interaction with another person, because you don't want to kill them. So the goals and the rush turn inward into shadowboxing and other forms of training. After many years of experience, fighting simply ceases to be a special event. You fight because that's what you are, that's where you can be yourself without interference, and there's always another level. And out from some clutter of weak desires and perceptions you or others used to have, there arises a true spire of indestructible focus. Winning is irrelevant. Losing is irrelevant. There's only the action, the pushing of the self.

Interestingly enough, when this occurs, it forms a counterbalance. You are complete intensity during your sessions, so you become passive everywhere else. All other forms of aggression become known as the pathetic posturing that they are, results of inferiority complexes and insecurities that you no longer have any need for. There's no more proving, no more outmaneuvering another, conflict and stress that aren't self-inflicted simply bounce off because you spend a certain amount of time each day preparing for all out war that you usually barely survive. Everything outside of that becomes a kind of quiet peace. And so, true violence comes full circle back to non-violence. Ironic, isn't it?
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I'm not a violent person by any means. I'll sometimes go for a zero-power punch or something on a friend for the sake of an impromptu slapstick routine, but haven't inflicted any actual damage on anyone since well over ten years ago, nor have I been the target of any. I abhor violence as a solution to anything, and much prefer to scare myself for my adrenaline-related needs, which are pretty paltry in the first place. I enjoy fictional violence (sometimes quite vicariously, horror fan that I am) because nobody actually gets hurt, but other than that, violence has no place in my world.
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When I served in the first Gulf War, my boat was responsible for firing several Tomahawks on the first night. I am partially responsible for killing more people in under an hour than most of you will ever kill, punch, or maim in your entire lives. The men on the receiving end were just guys like me doing what they were told to do. I think about it all of the time and it makes me physically sick....and I was lucky I didn't have to look them in the eye when they were blown to pieces. Sparing in the ring or playing a video game is one thing. Let me know how you feel if you truly have to take a life.
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Posted 4/21/14

dirty_soap_dish wrote:

When I served in the first Gulf War, my boat was responsible for firing several Tomahawks on the first night. I am partially responsible for killing more people in under an hour than most of you will ever kill, punch, or maim in your entire lives. The men on the receiving end were just guys like me doing what they were told to do. I think about it all of the time and it makes me physically sick....and I was lucky I didn't have to look them in the eye when they were blown to pieces. Sparing in the ring or playing a video game is one thing. Let me know how you feel if you truly have to take a life.


"Do not regret what you have done." -Miyamoto Musashi.

Musashi killed 60 men in duels, all of them face-to-face, the first when he was 13. This number does not include any kills in major battles. He spent the last years of his life as a Buddhist monk. I'm not trying to diminish your experiences or feelings in any way, merely respectfully pointing out that there are different levels of preparation, different levels of coping, and different conclusions based on many factors. Different culture, different times, but still people. Our society today relies on brainwashing and inferior psychology to get soldiers through the petty wars, and then generally casts them aside when it's done. You have my sympathy, soldier.
Posted 4/21/14
I used to do karate since I was 5 (although I left a year or two ago) , and being the dojo with all men was pretty damn fun. I mean, it wasn't like the violence of a street fight, but the adrenaline and sweat you get from knocking tall guys off their feet is fantastic. I'm only 5'4" so when I'm against a taller yet lesser experienced guy I feel like such a badass
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Posted 4/22/14
I hate fights. They make me incredibly nervous and uncomfortable. I hate watching fights, I hate being in fights.

I do get the urge to lash out at people sometimes if they are truly pissing me off. Doesn't happen often, but it does happen. That's normal. But once I actually get into an altercation, I tense up and back down. I don't want to hurt anyone, and I don't want to get hurt myself.

Watching a fight is even worse, because along with that uncomfortable tension, I feel utterly hopeless to stop it.
Posted 4/22/14
Fite me irl ill tell u my address but I warn you I lift.
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Phersu wrote:

I'm going to speak for a moment about myself, and I'm curious if any of you have felt similar.

You see, I'm a relatively mellow sort of guy. I don't really like fights, but I love to be in one. When I'm fighting, or sparring, I freaking love it. The rush, the excitement, the feeling. The anticipation that comes with knowing that you are about to visit violence upon someone else, and they you.

So, who else loves the feeling when you fight?


Not really sure if that's a "thirst for violence" though. That just sounds like an adrenaline rush from being in a competitive sport which is perfectly normal. Thirst for violence is something like going on a murderous rampage.
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Posted 4/22/14

dirty_soap_dish wrote:

When I served in the first Gulf War, my boat was responsible for firing several Tomahawks on the first night. I am partially responsible for killing more people in under an hour than most of you will ever kill, punch, or maim in your entire lives. The men on the receiving end were just guys like me doing what they were told to do. I think about it all of the time and it makes me physically sick....and I was lucky I didn't have to look them in the eye when they were blown to pieces. Sparing in the ring or playing a video game is one thing. Let me know how you feel if you truly have to take a life.


Respect for posting something like this.

This guy has actually experienced some serious violence, and not some childish violence that the majority of kids brag about.
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Posted 4/22/14

Hayagriva wrote:


dirty_soap_dish wrote:

When I served in the first Gulf War, my boat was responsible for firing several Tomahawks on the first night. I am partially responsible for killing more people in under an hour than most of you will ever kill, punch, or maim in your entire lives. The men on the receiving end were just guys like me doing what they were told to do. I think about it all of the time and it makes me physically sick....and I was lucky I didn't have to look them in the eye when they were blown to pieces. Sparing in the ring or playing a video game is one thing. Let me know how you feel if you truly have to take a life.


"Do not regret what you have done." -Miyamoto Musashi.

Musashi killed 60 men in duels, all of them face-to-face, the first when he was 13. This number does not include any kills in major battles. He spent the last years of his life as a Buddhist monk. I'm not trying to diminish your experiences or feelings in any way, merely respectfully pointing out that there are different levels of preparation, different levels of coping, and different conclusions based on many factors. Different culture, different times, but still people. Our society today relies on brainwashing and inferior psychology to get soldiers through the petty wars, and then generally casts them aside when it's done. You have my sympathy, soldier.


I thank you for citing that example and the sentiment was taken with the spirit in which it was given. And I don't wish to sound like I'm more privileged to throw my two cents into the ring because of my experience. Hell, I signed up for sub duty knowing full well that there was a possibility of launching at some poor soul. What's worse, I also knew that was a possibility that the target could have been more than just a bunker or a building. We had the capability of leveling an entire country. Fortunately, we launched BGM-109 C...conventional. BGM-109 A means lights out for about 1,000,000 people. And we had those at the ready in case Saddam used chem weps.

Bottom line, you can't prepare for the real thing. Oh, you can train to do your job, but you can't train to reign in your emotions. I've come to terms with it, but I still wish the necessary evil didn't have to be so......necessary. Thanks again.
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