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Anime is the death of Anime.
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Quoting an article.


Police have confirmed that A-1 Pictures worked one of their animators to death, ruling that being made to work hundreds of hours of overtime a month drove him to suicide.
The case centres on a man, 28 at the time of his death in 2010, employed on as a full-time animator at A-1 Pictures from 2006 to the end of 2009.
In 2010 the man quit his job after suffering severe depression, having been denied a transfer after his health collapsed, and later in the year committed suicide, prompting his bereaved family to retain a lawyer and pursue his former employer as being directly liable in a case of “karoushi” – death through overwork.
For some reason A-1 Pictures kept no record of the hours employees actually worked, but hospital records included the revelation that he “worked 600 hours in a month,” and Shinjuku police in charge of enforcing labour regulations confirmed that in the months prior to his diagnosis with depression he worked over 100 hours of overtime each month.
The family’s lawyer claims the reality was significantly worse, saying online posts he left suggest he started suffering from depression in 2008 and had to work from 134 to 344 hours of overtime in the months leading up to his departure.
He also mentions that “he frequently could not go home and no evidence of him ever being paid for any of this overtime survives” – at one point spending an entire week sleeping at the studio, and working for 3 months without any day off.
Despite the discrepancy in accounts, the family have nonetheless likely won the case – the police investigation officially concluded his death was caused by depression stemming from overwork.
His family say they launched the suit because “He loved anime and worked fervently – we wish nothing similar to occur at an anime studio in future.”
A-1 Pictures say “the police verdict was unexpected, and as we don’t know how they arrived at it we cannot comment.”
The man worked as a production coordinator, and titles he was involved in include Kannagi and Ookiku Furikabutte.
The case has prompted outrage online – anime studios already being notorious even amongst Japanese companies for exploiting their animators with miserable pay and working conditions.


What do you think? Should the working condition of Japanese animation companies be regulated?

Though, one should understand Japanese work ethics.
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Why not just quit instead of suicide. Idk, I may just be dead inside. I don't get it.
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Posted 4/19/14 , edited 4/19/14
That's... dark.


bathroom64 wrote:

Why not just quit instead of suicide. Idk, I may just be dead inside. I don't get it.

Social pressure? You're isolated in an environment surrounded by people who are also doing what you're doing, from the outside it's absolutely insane but from the inside there's tremendous pressure to not be the crybaby.

He did quit though, then killed himself later.
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Knowing how ridiculous Japanese take their passionate works, i am not surprised that this happen. Through it is ridiculous that studios actually work their animator to dead.
Posted 4/19/14
That's depressing; and also somewhat a guilt-trip, since the anime i'm enjoying could be the reason of that man's suicide :-/




I can't really understand why people would let their bosses force them to work overtime; but I can guess maybe he wanted a promotion or maybe he had a family to look after.

Being a single... and non-ambitious person... I have always made it clear to my boss, that I'm not going to do double shift... 12 hours per day will be the maximum.
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GayAsianBoy wrote:


I can't really understand why people would let their bosses force them to work overtime; but I can guess maybe he wanted a promotion or maybe he had a family to look after.

Being a single... and non-ambitious person... I have always made it clear to my boss, that I'm not going to do double shift... 12 hours per day will be the maximum.



Well don't forget social standards over in Japan, many Anime and news articles throw into light that in Japan it is be successful in your job, or don't bother with life pretty much. You're either trying your hardest to be the best, you either are the best, or you are an outcast it seems.

It is sad and unfortunate that he was so overworked that it led to depression and suicide, what is even more sad and unfortunate, it isn't really a new thing either coming from Japan. What I find even worse, is the possibility of it becoming such a norm thing in Japan that the people just begin to accept it as a fact of life over there, I would hope it DOESN'T get that bad, but I see the possibility with how many of these same stories happen it seems per year.
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A-1 Pictures.

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Wow, that's crazy. Man, I feel really horrible for his family having to endure his loss and for all the pain he suffered while in those conditions. Why companies do this to people I'll never understand.

Also, does anyone have a link to the original article?
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sonic720 wrote:

Wow, that's crazy. Man, I feel really horrible for his family having to endure his loss and for all the pain he suffered while in those conditions. Why companies do this to people I'll never understand.

Also, does anyone have a link to the original article?


Like other said, it is because of the japanese work ethic / culture norms. Everyone who have a job are just have to work really really hard or risk losing their job since literally everyone is working really hard. If you are not ambitious enough, you are probably going to be outcasted as a NEET or something. Found the article but it is in Japanese ... so i am guessing animekami know Japanese or he found it off another translator.


http://www.sponichi.co.jp/society/news/2014/04/18/kiji/K20140418007998030.html


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Way to bring me down. Today was a good day until I heard that.
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suicide rate is pretty high in Japan, regardless of what industry they are in:


Annual suicide rates in Japan are considerably higher than in most other industrial countries, normally hovering around 24 suicides per 100,000 people, which is roughly double the rate in the U.S. and three times that in the UK.
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From my understanding it's a polite, but cold and extremely over-worked culture. Hence their low birth rate.
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I was thinking they come up with so much good stuff 'cuz they work hard but this is pushing it.
Posted 4/20/14 , edited 4/20/14

Sogno- wrote:

suicide rate is pretty high in Japan, regardless of what industry they are in:


Annual suicide rates in Japan are considerably higher than in most other industrial countries, normally hovering around 24 suicides per 100,000 people, which is roughly double the rate in the U.S. and three times that in the UK.
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From my understanding it's a polite, but cold and extremely over-worked culture. Hence their low birth rate.


also this, the youth just have no desire to be tied down.

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Having served in the U.S. military for six years, I can COMPLETELY understand how this guy felt and what drove him to suicide (since the military, across the board (especially veterans like myself), has chronically high rates of suicide). Being part of a culture that DEMANDS the absolute best from you at all times yet rarely (if ever) rewards your for your personal sacrifices is horrifying in ways most people just don't know (and I can't blame them--the military press keeps a tight leash on the problems soldiers actually face in and out of uniform).

I actually contemplated suicide a couple of times because I just didn't feel ANYTHING after working seemingly endless 12-14 hour shifts (unlike the BOBs/REMFs who have their nice 7-to-3 with weekends/holidays off). I would just feel completely numb inside when I got home; there was no way to truly relax that didn't involve alcoholic binge drinking, happily signing divorce papers, domestically assaulting your spouse/kids, cheating on your spouse and being proud about it, or just putting a gun to your head (which I've had two friends do--one at work (and he was only 19 and right out of high school). The only thing that saved me was getting deployed!

A thankless job where no one gives a shit (we ignore the people who do, because they aren't there all the time when we NEED them) and you're expected to give the most of yourself or be seen (and treated) as weak, pitiful, and non-committed. If you complain or blow whistles, you're given shit for doing it and your coworkers see you as a traitor who can't handle a "little" hard work.

Who do you go to? A family that just doesn't understand (no matter how much they say the do)? A chaplain that's out of touch with reality? Your supervisor/boss, who'll more than likely remove you from work (i.e. public shaming) and make you part of the "SWAT" (sewage, waste, and trash) team (meaning you clean toilets and take out other peoples' trash for the rest of your enlistment instead of actually doing your job)? An investigator that claims to know what's going on, but in truth doesn't?

I really feel for the guy working for A-1 and the millions of others like him who see suicide as the only REAL way out. I completely understand why there is the NEET culture and Hikikomori; it's the social response to "salaryman ethos" that's ruined so many families and marriages.

But enough of my ranting/soapboxing for today...
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