Byrnhildr in the Darkness Discussion
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Posted 4/20/14
Topic for discussing Byrnhildr in the Darkness.

How is the manga good?

How is it different from the anime, and are those changes good or not?

Yep, for all the manga-related talk for the series, this thread is for you!
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The one odd thing I have noticed about this manga is that the backgrounds, props, and extra characters are often much better rendered than the main characters. This leads me to believe that we have a mangaka here who is okay at drawing, good enough but not great, and an assistant or assistants who are really great and trying to show up the manga artist, and he has no problem with it.

I really wish they would not do that, it is really jarring in some scenes and actually seems almost like the mangaka cut out his characters and pasted them on a black and white photorealistic background. If you are going to draw at a B+ level, make your assistants give you B+ assistance. Don't do your character art at a B+ level then have your assistance produce A+ material. Look at Isoyama from AOT, he's not all that great but at least his work is consistent.
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Posted 4/21/14 , edited 4/21/14

xxJing wrote:

The one odd thing I have noticed about this manga is that the backgrounds, props, and extra characters are often much better rendered than the main characters. This leads me to believe that we have a mangaka here who is okay at drawing, good enough but not great, and an assistant or assistants who are really great and trying to show up the manga artist, and he has no problem with it.

I really wish they would not do that, it is really jarring in some scenes and actually seems almost like the mangaka cut out his characters and pasted them on a black and white photorealistic background. If you are going to draw at a B+ level, make your assistants give you B+ assistance. Don't do your character art at a B+ level then have your assistance produce A+ material. Look at Isoyama from AOT, he's not all that great but at least his work is consistent.


You know, it could've been intentional. Take One-Punch Man for example. Saitama is purposefully drawn less detailed that everything else unless the mangaka decides otherwise in certain scenes. As for the manga characters in photorealistic backgrounds -- I think Gantz has a similar style to that, or maybe it was another manga I can't recall...

Anyway, I wouldn't say he's at B+ and his assistants are at A+, if he even has any. You never know. Also, the mangaka for AOT -- his art isn't consistent (sometimes, yes), it's certainly getting there... but... as it is now.... not really.

http://imgur.com/a/kxBP9#0 ~ Also, this is the rough draft he (the mangaka for AOT) made for the first chapter. I thought it was interesting.
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Posted 4/21/14 , edited 4/21/14

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xxJing wrote:

The one odd thing I have noticed about this manga is that the backgrounds, props, and extra characters are often much better rendered than the main characters. This leads me to believe that we have a mangaka here who is okay at drawing, good enough but not great, and an assistant or assistants who are really great and trying to show up the manga artist, and he has no problem with it.

I really wish they would not do that, it is really jarring in some scenes and actually seems almost like the mangaka cut out his characters and pasted them on a black and white photorealistic background. If you are going to draw at a B+ level, make your assistants give you B+ assistance. Don't do your character art at a B+ level then have your assistance produce A+ material. Look at Isoyama from AOT, he's not all that great but at least his work is consistent.


You know, it could've been intentional. Take One-Punch Man for example. Saitama is purposefully drawn less detailed that everything else unless the mangaka decides otherwise in certain scenes. As for the manga characters in photorealistic backgrounds -- I think Gantz has a similar style to that, or maybe it was another manga I can't recall...

Anyway, I wouldn't say he's at B+ and his assistants are at A+, if he even has any. You never know. Also, the mangaka for AOT -- his art isn't consistent (sometimes, yes), it's certainly getting there... but... as it is now.... not really.

http://imgur.com/a/kxBP9#0 ~ Also, this is the rough draft he (the mangaka for AOT) made for the first chapter. I thought it was interesting.


Oh you are right, Gantz is much worse. It's weird too because Gantz's characters are really dynamic too.

The only problem I have with this style is that it makes it feel like a puppet show when you make the backgrounds much more detailed than the characters. It is harder to maintain a suspension of disbelief.

I should probably give my opinion on the story:

Well I have read up to ch 57 since that is all the scanlations that are out. I can read Japanese but I'm too lazy to import books or scour the internet for raws. My opinions so far are that it is sort of bipolar, it's either really good or mediocre. The romantic development with Kazumi I think was a little too fast. The author seems to have trouble balancing character development, when he tries to develop one character, it kind feels like he just forgets about another. The main plot is interesting, I have no idea where the story is heading with this, and I want to find out. So it does have my interest. There is a little too much foreshadowing that the 3rd button is an injection of medicine or something to the extent, let's hope that isn't the case. The author could have fleshed out the girls a bit more by adding pasts for them, obviously they have pasts since Neko is Ryouta's childhood friend. The romance is pretty good, as long as it stays a love triangle and doesn't become a harem. The author is capable of being at least believably clever if I don't nitpick. I kind of wish there was a wider array of characters outside the 'harem', that is my main gripe.

Overall though it is a page turner, I want to find out what happens next and I am never bored by a chapter, all it needs is a little polishing.
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So, we now have Valkyria entering after the beach break ends. I'm curious how she was able to be contained seeing how many witches she dispatched singlehandedly. I'm also curious why they're so concerned about Kotori living when Valkryia only mentions Neko's name. Also curious how Murakami plans on strategizing going against her.
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Posted 4/22/14 , edited 4/22/14
Even for the manga, my comment below is gonna be a huge spoiler.


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Posted 4/22/14
Ya know... I had to go back and read ...
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Posted 4/29/14
To anyone who doesn't understand Japanese here's a sum-up of everything starting from chapter 59. The manga is on chapter 99 atm. Big spoiler so you've been warned.


special thanks to Le Phan Bao Dang who provided it.
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Posted 7/15/14
Closing this because there was a pre-existing thread that is currently active. See:

/forumtopic-820529/gokukoku-no-brynhildr-discussions
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