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If you want to get better at games in the Fighting Genre and at least be able to beat the COM on Normal, try Dead or Alive. Make sure to read the instruction booklet which should tell you the controls. The movements are simple enough. Executing the combos on the other hand is a different matter since it relies both upon movements, buttons and timing.
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Just thought I'd give my two cents here...
Fighting games are easy-peasy*, although TONS of people think they're hard... Let me explain.
There are only 4 parts to fighting games(at their core):
Strategy(YOUR overall gameplan, how your going to land that hit),
Technology(Or just Tech)(Non obvious things your character can do, like an ambigous cross-up set up, or a tricky Reset),
Combos(BAMBAMPOW 1337 HIT COMBO ONE-FRAME LINKS SO CRISPY, MAX PUNISH!!!! But keep in mind that a 2 hit combo is still a combo, Ryu c.mk xx hp.Fireball for example),
and Physical Execution(I want my character to do "ActionHere"(Movement, Normal, Special, ect.).
Begginners just button mash, so they got no Neutral Game. Button Mashing = Free Counter-Hit set ups for opponent, meaning more damaging Combos(for opponent). The hardest part about fighting games is that they CAN'T teach you to win. They can show you HOW you CAN win(Tutorials showing it's own rules and overall flow), but if you don't apply thought to your gameplay then you might lose.

*On paper fighting games are easy, it's only hard when you play against someone with good fundamentals(Knows tons more than what's above)

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The most easiest fighting game is: Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3. I suck at SFIV/AE and SFXT.
Just button mash and you get a crazy combo lol.

I'm not good at fighting games either but UMVC3 is fun and fast lol.
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Hm, Isn't it most fighting games have the combo list whenever you do a tutorial or training?

I usually play the 1st round with CPU & if I lose, I go to training and study the combo list & do the moves. You should have done this first or read the manual if it actually exist.

Street Fighter is much easier since they do have the generic low, normal, high punch. The easiest to study these is example use Ryu then do the hadouken move with all low, normal, high. Depending which attack is the farthest or biggest is your high punch...You get it?

You shouldn't have trouble in some fighting games, since they are mostly button smashing nowadays, before it was all about how to execute combos.

You should have played older fighting games like Mortal Kombat, it was the hardest combo or finishing blow that I ever played. In recent years, I played the Nanoha: Gears of Destiny fighting game on PSP, and it was terribly hard, I had to learn to master counterattack just to beat the main boss. Try Bleach Heat Soul (PSP) that one, you really need to learn the combo list.
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Posted 6/16/14

P1atypus wrote:
*On paper fighting games are easy, it's only hard when you play against someone with good fundamentals(Knows tons more than what's above)

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Best thing I've seen today. Good Stuff.

The problem with this is that FGs are quite a basic concept on paper but when getting down to the nitty gritty bits such as frame data, match-ups, grinding for muscle memory etc. It becomes a big hassle for people who either don't have the time or patience to practice and learn to get better at these. Also the people in the FGC are assholes not offense, but people who do give us a bad name really don't help us portray a good image about the community. For example people who play then are complete douches afterwards turns people off in my experience hence why people turn to other games which are and easier and just less hassle to play.
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Posted 6/16/14

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P1atypus wrote:
*On paper fighting games are easy, it's only hard when you play against someone with good fundamentals(Knows tons more than what's above)

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Best thing I've seen today. Good Stuff.

The problem with this is that FGs are quite a basic concept on paper but when getting down to the nitty gritty bits such as frame data, match-ups, grinding for muscle memory etc. It becomes a big hassle for people who either don't have the time or patience to practice and learn to get better at these. Also the people in the FGC are assholes not offense, but people who do give us a bad name really don't help us portray a good image about the community. For example people who play then are complete douches afterwards turns people off in my experience hence why people turn to other games which are and easier and just less hassle to play.


YIPES FTW!!!
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Posted 6/16/14

xKanashimi wrote:


P1atypus wrote:
*On paper fighting games are easy, it's only hard when you play against someone with good fundamentals(Knows tons more than what's above)

Discussion?


Best thing I've seen today. Good Stuff.

The problem with this is that FGs are quite a basic concept on paper but when getting down to the nitty gritty bits such as frame data, match-ups, grinding for muscle memory etc. It becomes a big hassle for people who either don't have the time or patience to practice and learn to get better at these. Also the people in the FGC are assholes not offense, but people who do give us a bad name really don't help us portray a good image about the community. For example people who play then are complete douches afterwards turns people off in my experience hence why people turn to other games which are and easier and just less hassle to play.


Sorry if I came across as an asshole, didn't mean for that. I was just trying to explain some things about fighting games in an easy way.
I think you mean the ones that rage quit, sent rude messages, or complain about losing are assholes. And that's a sad part about online gaming... these people are everywhere. Personally I get more "ggs" from messages than rage. Also, if someone does rage, just chat it out. Send a friendly message like "YOOOOOOOOOOOO MONEY MATCH ME!!!! FT7 LES GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" Kidding, but seriously ask them questions. I've given tips("x" is good anti-air, "y" poke is good against "character" ect.) to people that have rage quit and gotten positive responses.
Posted 6/16/14
then don't play them. boom, your life, is fixed.
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keiichimorisato988 wrote:

i really hate fighting games >.<... they never make them easy to learn, how in hell am i supposed to know which button is heavy punch or Light Punch, or Kick or whatever, when i am trying to learn in the training room when they don't tell me what button is what unless i go through 10 different menus to see the control configuration. i find it all really unintuitive, especially for beginners. i am not looking to play competitively, since i suck at any multiplayer game no matter how many hours i log in, 1000+ hours of CoD BO2 and my win to loss ratio is 0 wins 1000+ losses. in Mario Kart 7 i averagely earn 5th place, i have never made it into the top 3 in any race unless there was only 3 people. i gave up on Multiplayer and playing competitively, but i would like to at least beat the COM on normal.




Most fighting games have tutorial modes but I agree. They have become so complex with cancels, parrying and the lot that it can have a pretty steep learning curve. The best way to overcome that is having a rival or practice buddy to fight against. It will make you want to add more "tricks" to your arsenal, making you better. It won't be getting any easier for people to get into fighters, even casual games like Naruto are becoming more Evo-minded. Like how every sports car is designed to lap the Nurburgring in some ridiculous time.
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Posted 6/17/14
Not everyone in the FGC is an asshole..... yo.
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Posted 6/17/14
Not into fighting games much either. Besides Smash Bros.
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Posted 6/17/14

P1atypus wrote:

Sorry if I came across as an asshole, didn't mean for that. I was just trying to explain some things about fighting games in an easy way.
I think you mean the ones that rage quit, sent rude messages, or complain about losing are assholes. And that's a sad part about online gaming... these people are everywhere. Personally I get more "ggs" from messages than rage. Also, if someone does rage, just chat it out. Send a friendly message like "YOOOOOOOOOOOO MONEY MATCH ME!!!! FT7 LES GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" Kidding, but seriously ask them questions. I've given tips("x" is good anti-air, "y" poke is good against "character" ect.) to people that have rage quit and gotten positive responses.



Sorry I wasn't calling anyone out as an ass (kinda feel dumb right now... :sweatingbullets:), I meant to say when it comes to the FGCs reputation it isn't exactly a good one which doesn't help people wanting to get involved.


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YIPES FTW!!!




This guy a god.
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Posted 6/17/14
Well when you don't take the time to master at least one character in a fighting game. Your gonna get your azz beat online that's just how it goes. And Fighting games are a lot deeper then you actually realize. Besides the fact of execution and flowchart. There's mind games at play so pretty much your only option is to keep losing till you get enough experience.
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I'm not good initiating air combos.

Remember X-men vs Street Fighter, Marvel vs Capcom series?

Yea.

I could only do air combos thanks to Wolverine.

But I wanted to be awesome playing Chun-li. I'd seen a lot of guys playing on the arcades. It's so awesome when they finished the fight where Chun-li hits her powerful trademark flying kick where the screen goes black. I wanted to do it. I was just loosing quarters.
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No one plays a fighting game, you just spam buttons and hope for the best
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