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Dubbed anime: Views and opinions
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Posted 4/28/14

BeyondTheGrave007 wrote:

I don't get why people are getting angry about this thread. It's your fault for clicking on it. Anyways, I watch both. I love good dubs. I'm not a sub elitist.


No it's not.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


BeyondTheGrave007 wrote:

I don't get why people are getting angry about this thread. It's your fault for clicking on it. Anyways, I watch both. I love good dubs. I'm not a sub elitist.


No it's not.


Obviously it is. You can ignore it. It's not like you're being forced to reply.
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I can ignore it. I just rather state how I feel about it. I don't want to hold it in because I rather get it off my chest.Of course there is no forcing but I choose to answer since I have something to put down.


I like dubs and subs equally.
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I can usually put up with that, but the worst part about is that it's extremely hard to find a dubbed video that isn't grainy and of poor quality. So, I usually watch subbed versions.

I take it you are turning to the dark side for those videos, as the legal sources (primarily Funimation and TAN) for dubs provide the same quality for both dubs and subs.

That said, if that is the case, I am surprised illegal dubs would typically be of lower quality, as I would have expected that most would be rips from DVDs or even Blu-ray.

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when i was younger it was usually whatever i watched first (dubbed or subbed) i liked better. but if its good then its good. I for one love the full metal voices. i think thats the best dub. I can only watch monster dubbed. claymore dub is pretty good too.
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bamfcampbell wrote:

I can usually put up with that, but the worst part about is that it's extremely hard to find a dubbed video that isn't grainy and of poor quality. So, I usually watch subbed versions.

I take it you are turning to the dark side for those videos, as the legal sources (primarily Funimation and TAN) for dubs provide the same quality for both dubs and subs.

That said, if that is the case, I am surprised illegal dubs would typically be of lower quality, as I would have expected that most would be rips from DVDs or even Blu-ray.



Probably because if they were in good quality Funimation, or whatever animation company would find it faster and remove it. At least that's my thoughts on the dark side
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The dub for Read or Die the TV is a special thing for me. I watched it first as a dub and the voices just seemed to fit the characters so well. I still watched that one dubbed every so often.
Posted 4/28/14 , edited 4/28/14
I don't mind either. But even with dubs, I put the English subtitle [when I can]... because I'm the type of person who needs to know every single word said in a storyline.
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Posted 4/28/14

TheAncientOne wrote:


bamfcampbell wrote:

I can usually put up with that, but the worst part about is that it's extremely hard to find a dubbed video that isn't grainy and of poor quality. So, I usually watch subbed versions.

I take it you are turning to the dark side for those videos, as the legal sources (primarily Funimation and TAN) for dubs provide the same quality for both dubs and subs.

That said, if that is the case, I am surprised illegal dubs would typically be of lower quality, as I would have expected that most would be rips from DVDs or even Blu-ray.



Yup that would be a reference to the "dark side." I'm not too proud to admit it, but I've been there. Though, I now like having premium crunchyroll and I enjoy paying for my anime and manga and supporting the people who make it. But, to respond to your surprised statement, illegal dubs are indeed poor quality. I do not know where they rip their videos but even in the small viewer for the video, without expanding to anything close to a full screen, the quality is generally poor. It's a weird phenomenon now that you mention the possibility of ripping high quality DVDs and digital files.

Thinking on the topic, I think it might actually be a good thing that dubs are of poor quality. That's exactly what steered me to websites like Funimation and Crunchyroll.
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Being some one who speaks Japanese relatively well and can understand it enough to just listen to a raw and hear the inflection, emotion and accents just as well as i would in English, I have no need for dubs. However, when i first got into anime and didn't speak Japanese, there was a time when I almost only watched dubs because it was too much of a pain to read the subs (i'm Dyslexic).

While there are certainly some good dubs out there, things get bad specifically when a show has a moe-style or a bunch of moe-characters in it. This is either due to a fundamental cultural disconnect or the VAs/Directors over playing what they think moe should sound like in English. Of course, though, that's not everything. If you watch some of the studio Ghibli dubs which tend to use actual actors for the VA roles, the overall quality seems to be quite a bit higher with some exceptions like in the case of Billy Bob Thornton in "Princess Mononoke". The way I see it, aside from a small minority, most of the English VAs are like B-actors when compared to most of the Japanese VAs. Not only that but they have the fundamental disadvantage of not being from Japan.

On the other hand, people who are not that into anime tend to lean towards dubs more and people who have a handy-cap: either a reading disorder or are blind, need the dubs to watch the anime. I think CR would maybe benefit from adding more dubs to their lineup, but the may not be able to justify it monetarily due to having to pay the extra. It really depends on how many more people they would get to sign up for their site if it did offer dubs vs the cost of obtaining these dubs.

Also just a side note, I've noticed that in the recent years the quality of dubbing has gotten quite a bit better compared to the 90s and even early 2000 dubs. Mainly, this has happened due to companies like Funimation and Aniplex having full time VAs on staff to dub their material. It may be that eventually the quality of the dubs will catch up to the quality of the Japanese dialogue if anime continues to be more and more popular in the United States and other English speaking countries. Though, some of the best anime have never received dub jobs on them either due to licence issues or whatever and this can really diminish the market. Though ill be honest, I really cant imagine ever wanting to watch a dub of like Toradora! for example because the Japanese VA is just so damned good.
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Posted 4/28/14

GayAsianBoy wrote:

I don't mind either. But even with dubs, I put the English subtitle [when I can]... because I'm the type of person who needs to know every single word said in a storyline.


I do the same since I'm somewhat hard of hearing.
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With the few exceptions being anime such as Trigun, Rurouni Kenshin, YuYu Hakusho and Dragonball Z, I generally find most dubbed anime to be utterly irritating. I think most of the time it sounds really stupid because the voices differ too much and some of the translations are dulled down so younger people can watch it. But that's how I see it.
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The whole sub vs dub debate is based purely on personal preference and nothing more. As far as I am concerned I will try the dub before calling it bad or mediocre. I see far too many people base their opinions on 1 to 2 minute previews then immediately say the dub is terrible. The Attack on Titan dub reveal is a perfect example of this as I do not know how many people commented that the dub was terrible off of 1 minute previews.

I think people forget that a dub gives the anime in question a (very small) chance to grow out of this niche medium. This is something the subbed version just can not do as a more mainstream audience we likely just dismiss it before even giving it a chance. Shows like Attack on Titan have a chance to reach a more casual audience with its dub and join that small number of shows that have reached that mainstream status. For all the hate dubs get they serve a very important role in actually expanding the medium we all currently enjoy.

However this is just my opinion so take it as you please.
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Posted 4/28/14 , edited 4/28/14

AlaskaDrake wrote:

With the few exceptions being anime such as Trigun, Rurouni Kenshin, YuYu Hakusho and Dragonball Z, I generally find most dubbed anime to be utterly irritating. I think most of the time it sounds really stupid because the voices differ too much and some of the translations are dulled down so younger people can watch it. But that's how I see it.


When people say stuff like this, I find it weird? Like, I think the reason a lot of modern dubs sound terrible is because they're trying to make the voices match the Japanese ones exactly in pitch and it usually doesn't work at all - especially with female characters who have high voices in the original Japanese. I do like the Haruhi dub but it falls pretty hard into this trap with Mikuru. And this tendency pretty much ruined the dub for Madoka Magica.

Honestly, the reason the dubs you're watching seemed "dulled down so younger people can watch it" sounds to me because you're pretty much just watching shonen anime from the examples you've listed. Trigun and Yu Yu Hakusho both have excellent dubs, I can't speak for the other two, but like... yeah, shows like Naruto or Bleach or whatever are gonna be aimed toward kids.
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There was a certain study that examined peoples' enjoyment of dubs/subs in key categories and they have failed to find a significance in difference. I think people over-think it. Just pick your preference and go with it(unless it concerns actual bad dubs).
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