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Posted 6/8/14

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I'm sorry if my unsympathetic views on eating animals makes me seem less than human, but I'm not going to change it. Half of my post was an opinion on the morals of eating meat. My only logical point was the last, and I fail to see how any of that doesn't work.
Yes, of course you would have health problems just eating meat! You'd also have health problems just eating broccoli or nothing but fruit or bread. Did you miss the whole part where I said a balanced diet played more a factor in health than deciding whether or not you were vegetarian? The decision to swear off meat doesn't mean jiggly if you decide you only need to eat tofu to survive.
And yes, you can get the same amount from vegetables, and this is where choice comes in! Do you want to eat a ton of vegetables, or a beef patty? Who cares? It's your meal! Not mine!




Don't get me wrong, i have no sympathy for animals dying in a fair enough, i do think it's really messed up that they're shoved in a tiny cage and go through a living hell before dying, i don't mind making them happy and then killing them, and as a meat lover yourself, you should know that happy animals give a lot better quality meat, much more delicious, when they die in a state of fear it releases a lot of gross shit into the meat you eat, what i meant is that by opting out of eating meat your diet is automatically a lot healthier regardless of the rest, I just thought the wolf analogy was completly retarded, wolves don't care if their preys were happy because they're killing for survival, all you're doing is looking the other way, you miss the whole point that people don't get angry at killing animals period, people get angry at they way they're treated before dying.
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No, I didn't miss that. I chose to look away. The same way people look away from helping children in third world countries, or how people continue to shop at walmart despite how badly they treat employees.
Because the thing is, I realized a while ago, I may say "aww" and feel bad for a moment when I think about it. But as soon as the images go away, I don't care anymore. I'm not going to delude myself into believing I'm a good person and I care, because I don't. At least not enough to change anything. Intentions don't mean a thing if there's no action. Since there isn't going to be an action, I decided to stop the intentions.
Some people truly do care, and dedicate huge amounts of time and energy into changing things. Others just sort of say they feel bad for them, but then they don't lift a pinky. I don't want to be that, all bark and no bite, so I don't bark. This is purely my opinion, my personal stance on animal cruelty, and meat eating.
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Posted 6/8/14

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No, I didn't miss that. I chose to look away. The same way people look away from helping children in third world countries, or how people continue to shop at walmart despite how badly they treat employees.
Because the thing is, I realized a while ago, I may say "aww" and feel bad for a moment when I think about it. But as soon as the images go away, I don't care anymore. I'm not going to delude myself into believing I'm a good person and I care, because I don't. At least not enough to change anything. Intentions don't mean a thing if there's no action. Since there isn't going to be an action, I decided to stop the intentions.
Some people truly do care, and dedicate huge amounts of time and energy into changing things. Others just sort of say they feel bad for them, but then they don't lift a pinky. I don't want to be that, all bark and no bite, so I don't bark. This is purely my opinion, my personal stance on animal cruelty, and meat eating.


That sounds very cute and heroic of you, but you don't have to be an activist that goes out to protest to make a difference, simply talking about it helps a lot, i don't go out and do stuff to help animal's rights, but the simple fact of sharing this information with people that are misinformed or uneducated on the subject will spread and eventually who knows, pressure those companies to be more humane, i do agree with you 100% that a lot of people are like that just to ease their conscience and inflate their own ego by saying " Oh, i'm so enlightened, i care about animals and starving children in Africa", but there will always be people like that when it comes to any subject, those that pretend to care just to fit in, but your wolf analogy was just bad, you probably never ate wild meat, but it tastes 100000 times better than meat from fast food restaurants or even fancy restaurants, so don't look at it as you're trying to ease your conscience, look at it as a meat lover that wants meat to taste fucking amazing and healthy.
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Hmm it doesn't matter as much to me as long as I see myself healthy. My biggest concern has to be with taking care of my body, and eating what's necessary for my body. If it has to be meat, I will eat it, but some of the meat is so bad, I feel that I will be sick either more. Cause of the bacterias and food processing. I need BALANCE in my life, and first thing has to do with my diet.

I saw the videos on animal cruelty, and some of my friends reverted to be some sort of vegetarian, like it's their choice right? Like anything I said will have much affect on them. My father follows the same path, giving me lectures, "Don't eat meat..." I know, but I need protein intake not as much tho, just enough.

Mass consumer demand for meat. I'm sorry for the animals cruelty, and me more or less liking meat and eating does not help. But, I need it, just I don't like how people prepared meat for us to eat- pigs in cages, chickens on the conveyors belts, and etc. It's sad and dissatisfying.
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Veggies are cool... but so is meats. Why not have both
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I think being vegetarians are fine. As long as they don't criticize other people's own favor/belief like PETA. >,<
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Vegetarians are fine in my book. Especially considering my culture and a few family members that were prevalent in my upbringing. Personally, though, I am an omnivore. The other end of this discussion veers into thoughts on animal cruelty, which I'm against. That doesn't change the fact that I'll be eating meat, but it does bring me to focus on practices to the point of wariness. I sincerely doubt that I would be able to make worthwhile impact with practicing vegetarianism. It's a complicated matter, such that it causes near inevitable hypocrisy.
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Posted 6/16/14

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Hmm it doesn't matter as much to me as long as I see myself healthy. My biggest concern has to be with taking care of my body, and eating what's necessary for my body. If it has to be meat, I will eat it, but some of the meat is so bad, I feel that I will be sick either more. Cause of the bacterias and food processing. I need BALANCE in my life, and first thing has to do with my diet.

I saw the videos on animal cruelty, and some of my friends reverted to be some sort of vegetarian, like it's their choice right? Like anything I said will have much affect on them. My father follows the same path, giving me lectures, "Don't eat meat..." I know, but I need protein intake not as much tho, just enough.

Mass consumer demand for meat. I'm sorry for the animals cruelty, and me more or less liking meat and eating does not help. But, I need it, just I don't like how people prepared meat for us to eat- pigs in cages, chickens on the conveyors belts, and etc. It's sad and dissatisfying.



You don't need meat at all, there's nothing that a meat based diet will provide that vegetables won't, and hey i eat meat almost everyday, but i admit that it's because i love medium rare stakes and i only buy it from local farms in the area that treat the animals fairly and don't make them go through a living hell months prior to their death, i know a lot of professional athletes that are full on vegetarians, do not consume any type of meat and have their intake of proteins in shape, saying you need meat is like saying you need milk, no one needs milk, it's just one of those things that are stuck on people's head because a few decades ago there was no internet so people couldn't call each other on their bullshit, so why not make everyone think you HAVE to drink milk and eat meat to be a strong and healthy person.
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You don't need meat at all, there's nothing that a meat based diet will provide that vegetables won't, and hey i eat meat almost everyday, but i admit that it's because i love medium rare stakes and i only buy it from local farms in the area that treat the animals fairly and don't make them go through a living hell months prior to their death, i know a lot of professional athletes that are full on vegetarians, do not consume any type of meat and have their intake of proteins in shape, saying you need meat is like saying you need milk, no one needs milk, it's just one of those things that are stuck on people's head because a few decades ago there was no internet so people couldn't call each other on their bullshit, so why not make everyone think you HAVE to drink milk and eat meat to be a strong and healthy person.


Oh I get what you're saying. So it's not necessary to eat any meat at all right? All I need is to eat a natural vegetarian diet and be fine? Or consume certain proteins to get in shape? Thanks for your input. When I was little, I couldn't even drink milk and as a substitute I don't know what my parents did, they forced me to drink milk and now I'm sort of lactose intolerant. I'm just worried about my health even though when I get a checkup, the doctors keep saying, "She's healthy." What is healthy per se? Are they checking for iron or how one's particular systems are in check? Or anything?
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Humbug.
For as long as I have the teeth for it, I'll eat whatever I want.
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Posted 6/17/14

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outerheaven139 wrote:


You don't need meat at all, there's nothing that a meat based diet will provide that vegetables won't, and hey i eat meat almost everyday, but i admit that it's because i love medium rare stakes and i only buy it from local farms in the area that treat the animals fairly and don't make them go through a living hell months prior to their death, i know a lot of professional athletes that are full on vegetarians, do not consume any type of meat and have their intake of proteins in shape, saying you need meat is like saying you need milk, no one needs milk, it's just one of those things that are stuck on people's head because a few decades ago there was no internet so people couldn't call each other on their bullshit, so why not make everyone think you HAVE to drink milk and eat meat to be a strong and healthy person.


Oh I get what you're saying. So it's not necessary to eat any meat at all right? All I need is to eat a natural vegetarian diet and be fine? Or consume certain proteins to get in shape? Thanks for your input. When I was little, I couldn't even drink milk and as a substitute I don't know what my parents did, they forced me to drink milk and now I'm sort of lactose intolerant. I'm just worried about my health even though when I get a checkup, the doctors keep saying, "She's healthy." What is healthy per se? Are they checking for iron or how one's particular systems are in check? Or anything?



Well, the word need is a little subjective because i wouldn't know what you're trying to achieve, but meat itself is not necessary at all, it's just cheaper in general to supply your protein demands with a huge beef stake than specific vegetables and specific ways to cook it, and i feel your pain, i'm lactose intolerant as well, this drinking milk thing is something our parents and older generations got tricked into, amongst many other things, and i wouldn't know how to answer that because i don't know what your doctor is doing specifically , i went to several nutritionists that specifically focus on reducing body fat and keeping a balance of vitamins and metals in your body, and nearly all of them told me to cut off gluten,meat and dairy products, the only excuse people give to drinking milk is that the calcium in it strengthens your bones, but again, plenty of vegetables do that for you.
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Well, the word need is a little subjective because i wouldn't know what you're trying to achieve, but meat itself is not necessary at all, it's just cheaper in general to supply your protein demands with a huge beef stake than specific vegetables and specific ways to cook it, and i feel your pain, i'm lactose intolerant as well, this drinking milk thing is something our parents and older generations got tricked into, amongst many other things, and i wouldn't know how to answer that because i don't know what your doctor is doing specifically , i went to several nutritionists that specifically focus on reducing body fat and keeping a balance of vitamins and metals in your body, and nearly all of them told me to cut off gluten,meat and dairy products, the only excuse people give to drinking milk is that the calcium in it strengthens your bones, but again, plenty of vegetables do that for you.


Oh okay. I see. Thanks I see what you are getting at. I'll do some research on it. But, are you following their directions to avoid gluten, meat and dairy products? I'm just a little worried on what's my body is going to be like in the future. Then again, I think I should just exercise.
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outerheaven139 wrote:


Well, the word need is a little subjective because i wouldn't know what you're trying to achieve, but meat itself is not necessary at all, it's just cheaper in general to supply your protein demands with a huge beef stake than specific vegetables and specific ways to cook it, and i feel your pain, i'm lactose intolerant as well, this drinking milk thing is something our parents and older generations got tricked into, amongst many other things, and i wouldn't know how to answer that because i don't know what your doctor is doing specifically , i went to several nutritionists that specifically focus on reducing body fat and keeping a balance of vitamins and metals in your body, and nearly all of them told me to cut off gluten,meat and dairy products, the only excuse people give to drinking milk is that the calcium in it strengthens your bones, but again, plenty of vegetables do that for you.


Oh okay. I see. Thanks I see what you are getting at. I'll do some research on it.


No need to thank me, i'm just repeating what smart people tell me , send me a PM if you wanna talk about any of that, i don't really exercise anymore due to a knee injury and i have all those papers and formulated diets lying around.
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No need to thank me, i'm just repeating what smart people tell me , send me a PM if you wanna talk about any of that, i don't really exercise anymore due to a knee injury and i have all those papers and formulated diets lying around.


No, I want to thank people for their input. I have manners you know. Oh i'm sorry to hear that, but you can do a light exercise. I'll PM you for more information and don't respond back to this post.
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Which one is better to buy: Ninja Bullet or Nutri Bullet?

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