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if the review is for anything less than the full show, then it should be specifically stated that how many episodes were accounted for in the review. but then again, the fact that you didn't enjoy the show enough to continue watching is also an important aspect of the review.
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I dont care it it's a 5 star review or a 1 star. Reviews of shows that you haven't finished are bullshit. Plain and Simple.
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I agree with those who have said that "early reviews" are fine as long as they are labelled as such, also that they should be pretty humble in their analysis and not be too authoritative in their judgement like some are, given their limited perspective. That being said, I still recognize early reviews as something essential that shouldn't be berated on mere principle. They do their job, aka. telling people what they can expect for the first few episodes so that they have real opinions to work with rather than just the synopsis, which really don't say anything about the quality of the material. I'm very grateful to a lot of dedicated early reviews that did an honest job of analyzing the content they were given and have upvoted a few if I watched some episodes and still found them insightful.


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First impressions are fine so long as they are identified as such. And they are a type of review, but people expect a real review to be of the series as a whole. It's too bad that sites don't split reviews into these categories. That might be a helpful feature to compare first impressions with final reviews.

Agreed, the review system here on CR is very primitive I find, really isn't sufficient for the importance it has.
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I already had my say on this subject earlier in the Help-Suggestions/Feedback area where the same thing was brought up in this thread:

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I think the poster child for unfinished reviews would be Samurai Flamenco. Everyone loved it for the first mumble episodes, then they did something that caused the hate to roll in, which in turn, made the review ratings drop. Later episodes redeemed themselves (IMO), but I wonder how many people revisited their low reviews, or even revisited the show. It's just one example, the best I can think of right now, so try not to focus on my example but rather what happens over a 26 episode series.

It's like reviewing a book you've read halfway. If you plan on quitting a series (or book, or movie) part way because you don't like it, that's fine. I've posted many reviews of similar nature, but always indicate I've abandoned the work at some point.
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In my opinion it is legitimate to review a work you've only partially completed provided you restrict your analysis to the confines of the material you've actually viewed/read. As for how to deal with new episodes/chapters as they come along, one should certainly keep in mind any conclusions they've drawn along the way. The trick is to use those previous conclusions as a foundation for future conclusions rather than treating them like a blueprint for future conclusions.


TheFroDoc wrote:

I dont care it it's a 5 star review or a 1 star. Reviews of shows that you haven't finished are bullshit. Plain and Simple.


Oh, you've just never seen it done properly.

Doug Walker's episode-by-episode vlog reviews of Avatar: The Last Airbender are a perfect example of how partial reviews of a work one is in the process of consuming should be done.
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3 episode rule doesn't work. To anyone that employs it I point you to Shinsekai Yori, The EF Tales of series, and Gai:Rei Zero.

In order to give an honest and accurate review it is essential that you know how the characters progress (or the lack of progression in the characters) the twists and turns that the story takes, and most importantly: the ending. Of course, a knowledge of the source material may solve all of these problems: but there's no guarantee that the source material will be adapted perfectly. Reviewing a series where you lack information on the conclusion is feigning omniscience.

Anything titled "review" with a show that isn't completed should change its title to assumption.

Also, I feel the same way about ratings. Not that a numerical value can properly assess how good a show is anyways.
Posted 5/2/14
Not that I use reviews, and have never used reviews to decide to watch something, but if someone watched 5/14 - I think I'd consider their review to be on the 5 episodes they saw and take it for that... I find it troubling that people have a stance of "shouldn't be allowed" instead of ignoring reviews that just don't cover the entirety of a show.

If someone makes a review after 1 episode I'd take it as a first impressions review. These popup for simulcasts, as the original post mentioned, all the time. Again, not that I use them, but to not allow it at all? Silence them? Such a sad state...
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First impressions should only ever be classified as exactly that: First Impressions. It's only ever a review if you've watched the whole thing. It's why I hate people who give first impressions of games in an Alpha/Beta state and claim it's an Early Access Review. It's not a review it's first impressions. You can't review something that is incomplete. You can take from first impressions whatever you please, but don't use it to judge an entire piece of content.
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Renegatz wrote:

I agree with those who have said that "early reviews" are fine as long as they are labelled as such, also that they should be pretty humble in their analysis and not be too authoritative in their judgement like some are, given their limited perspective. That being said, I still recognize early reviews as something essential that shouldn't be berated on mere principle. They do their job, aka. telling people what they can expect for the first few episodes so that they have real opinions to work with rather than just the synopsis, which really don't say anything about the quality of the material. I'm very grateful to a lot of dedicated early reviews that did an honest job of analyzing the content they were given and have upvoted a few if I watched some episodes and still found them insightful.


deadpanditto wrote:

First impressions are fine so long as they are identified as such. And they are a type of review, but people expect a real review to be of the series as a whole. It's too bad that sites don't split reviews into these categories. That might be a helpful feature to compare first impressions with final reviews.

Agreed, the review system here on CR is very primitive I find, really isn't sufficient for the importance it has.


I agree with this completely. There's nothing wrong for example if a person tells it's an early review. If an anime does something that's bad then it should be duly noted early on. Whether it gets better later on or not doesn't matter. A 10/10 should be perfect or close to perfect 100% of the time. If an anime production team doesn't want bad early impressions then they should make it good at the beginning. There should be no reason to why we shouldn't have early reviews as long as they've based it on what they've seen and not try to predict what will happen.

The premise of an anime is not what makes it interesting. It's rather the way the story is told. For example a yuri or harem anime can be good as long as the author builds the world and tells the story in the correct way that makes it good (Although I don't know many, I've used yuri because I do not know many if any that are good, but that doesn't mean they can't be good). All in all, what I'm trying to say in this paragraph is, make the anime good and you won't have any problems with early impressions. Ratings should be punished if an anime does something wrong, even if it gets better again later. (This is in regard to that Samurai Flamenco person that posted it.)
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I think it's fine to review things by first impression as long as you keep on updating your review as the series airs. Personally I'm a fan of this method because it get's your thoughts out on the first impression and after that you can build on that as the series goes by. Also, another good tip is leave a label on your reviews if you're going to do this, so it keeps your review honest. Don't be that guy who reviews anime based on the manga and hasn't seen the anime at all. It's fine if you watch the anime and read the manga then review, but don't only read it.

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Mikey435 wrote:

3 episode rule doesn't work. To anyone that employs it I point you to Shinsekai Yori, The EF Tales of series, and Gai:Rei Zero.

In order to give an honest and accurate review it is essential that you know how the characters progress (or the lack of progression in the characters) the twists and turns that the story takes, and most importantly: the ending. Of course, a knowledge of the source material may solve all of these problems: but there's no guarantee that the source material will be adapted perfectly. Reviewing a series where you lack information on the conclusion is feigning omniscience.

Anything titled "review" with a show that isn't completed should change its title to assumption.

Also, I feel the same way about ratings. Not that a numerical value can properly assess how good a show is anyways.


I actually agree with you on the 3 episode rule. There have been numerous shows these past 12 months that would have passed this test, but went on to be rather weak shows due to weak second halves, and many shows that would have failed the test, but went on to be something special once things got rolling.

It is why I refuse to drop a show unless it is so extremely god awful it has redeeming qualities. I just never know when a show might turn things around.
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bad idea. the pilots love songs. great up till episode 10. then two giant time skips. totaly ruined it.
its like the writers were planning on 24 episodes, but ran out of funding after writing episode 10.
boo.
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nemoskull wrote:
bad idea. the pilots love songs. great up till episode 10. then two giant time skips. totaly ruined it.
its like the writers were planning on 24 episodes, but ran out of funding after writing episode 10.
boo.

No. It was intended. And you don't get the full effect unless you read the whole Light Novel series, which I heard was pretty good. I haven't read it though. New movies and series that will come out after will finish the story, so I expect good things.
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Pretty much, early reviews are quite a bad idea. It's extremely important that the I get the whole picture before saying anything definitive. It has been said many times to not judge a book by its cover, and in this case it means don't judge an anime based on its first episode. However, that's different from an impression, which is how I feel about a show after the first few episodes and it's more of a way to see if I am interested in investing my time to watch this show all the way to the end, and I am fine with that as long as the readers are given a heads-up that this review was done after episode z.
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