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I have read a lot of complaints about bad filler episodes/arcs in various anime. While I agree that there is a lot of bad filler out there, I do not think that all filler is bad. For example, the Fairy Tail Key of the Starry Heavens arc. It had a pretty good story, and I couldn't spoil the ending for myself because (like all filler) it wasn't in the manga. Am I the only one, or does anyone else have an example of a decent filler arc?
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I have to think the recent Kakashi ANBU black ops is a good filler.
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Ghost in the Shell had a filler episode where it focussed around a crazy guy who I think hated cybernetics. I found it pretty enjoyable, though it was less an arc, and more a single episode. You're right in that not all filler is bad, I think it's just when there's so much of it that it takes a while to get back to the main story, or when it appears in shows with a season or two's worth of episodes that it annoys people.
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I enjoyed the Virtual World and DOMA filler arcs of Yugioh.
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I think it depends on the filler. I don't care about the anime being loyal to the manga. Normally the problem with filler is that it disrupts the flow of the story, and because most big shonun try to stay close to the manga, nothing can really change due to what happens in the filler. Some shows like Bleach just ignore the main plot for that arc, which is really jarring. However, some of their fillers worked in with the flow of the story, like the Bount one and the Gotei 13 Invading Army one. They could also flesh out the side characters more. Other shows like Naruto with the filler being placed within the war arc really hurts the story because the pacing is pretty slow as it is and this just makes it worse.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Ghost in the Shell had a filler episode where it focussed around a crazy guy who I think hated cybernetics. I found it pretty enjoyable, though it was less an arc, and more a single episode. You're right in that not all filler is bad, I think it's just when there's so much of it that it takes a while to get back to the main story, or when it appears in shows with a season or two's worth of episodes that it annoys people.


That is not Filler. Ghost in the Shell is set up as episodic with an overarching plot thrown into the series. It is just like Cowboy Bebop in that regard. It is more to due with the style of show. Actual Filler is added content in longer running series (usually Shonen) that adds absolutely nothing to the narrative and stops dead the entire plot and is just used to pad out the series to give it more space from the source material (usually manga.)

And usually it is always bad. Most Filler I have seen has been no better than tolerable, and almost all of them have been down right terrible.
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Orga777 wrote:


BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Ghost in the Shell had a filler episode where it focussed around a crazy guy who I think hated cybernetics. I found it pretty enjoyable, though it was less an arc, and more a single episode. You're right in that not all filler is bad, I think it's just when there's so much of it that it takes a while to get back to the main story, or when it appears in shows with a season or two's worth of episodes that it annoys people.


That is not Filler. Ghost in the Shell is set up as episodic with an overarching plot thrown into the series. It is just like Cowboy Bebop in that regard. It is more to due with the style of show. Actual Filler is added content in longer running series (usually Shonen) that adds absolutely nothing to the narrative and stops dead the entire plot and is just used to pad out the series to give it more space from the source material (usually manga.)

And usually it is always bad. Most Filler I have seen has been no better than tolerable, and almost all of them have been down right terrible.


But it didn't actually move the main plot forward, did it? I always took filler as being episodes which don't progress the main plot, and while that added depth to the world it was set in, it didn't advance the plot and the Major was barely in that episode. And I disagree that filler can only appear in longer running series. In comparison to most Shonen, Chobits was very short, but if you thought half those episodes weren't filler you'd be mad.
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The only good filler arc I recall is the G-5 arc from One Piece.

Hell, at first I thought that arc was canon, whereas the Foxy/Davy Back fight arc was the filler.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:
But it didn't actually move the main plot forward, did it? I always took filler as being episodes which don't progress the main plot, and while that added depth to the world it was set in, it didn't advance the plot and the Major was barely in that episode.


Again, Ghost in the Shell was like that from Episode 1. It would be like saying Law and Order is made entirely of Filler. Of course it isn't. The series is designed in a different way. Ghost in the Shell is an episodic series that just so happens to have a story in the middle. Just like Cowboy Bebop. The main narrative is only PART of the whole. Unlike with other series like, say, Naruto or One Piece, which are WAY more plot driven from the beginning, with each segment broken up into different arcs to tell each story. Filler is something that adds nothing and always comes in the middle of the story, which kills ALL momentum that the plot progression possibly had.

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not all filler is bad. railgun had an filler episode that i loved.
full metal panic fumoff is all filler.
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Le_Dom wrote:

The only good filler arc I recall is the G-5 arc from One Piece.

Hell, at first I thought that arc was canon, whereas the Foxy/Davy Back fight arc was the filler.

You mean G-8. G-5 are the crazy marines with Smoker that we see on Punk Hazard, but yeah, G-8 was a very good arc. Probably my favorite filler arc. The filler games in the Davey Back Fight arc were also very good. The whole arc IMO, was very funny and enjoyable. A great calm before the storm arc. After Skypiea you need to tone things down, before getting into something as big as Water 7.
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Have to agree on the Kakashi eps from naruto being good, both Gaiden and Anbu.
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Thank you. I just closed that one because no one's posted to it in almost a year. Folks may continue to contribute here.

On topic: I agree that the recent Kakashi ANBU arc is pretty good as filler goes (especially for Naruto where so much filler is so much crap), since within the story itself we do see some change and progression. Also get to see some much-beloved characters and much-hated villians, rather than so many nobodies!
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hmm i didn't find Fairy Tail's filler too bad.
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