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FCC New Rules For The Internet Will Kill The Internet We Know
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Posted 5/16/14

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Well you won't be able to type anything on there in the first place. Why are you even asking?


Won't be able to, why's that?
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Well you won't be able to type anything on there in the first place. Why are you even asking?


Won't be able to, why's that?


What are you on about? If you don't fill out the form, you won't fill it out? I've no idea what you're actually asking.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

What are you on about? If you don't fill out the form, you won't fill it out? I've no idea what you're actually asking.


Well, you said I wouldn't be able to type anything on it. It was your choice of words. Also, I was responding to your saying of we should be filling out the form. Which, if I do (or anyone else does), will it ultimately do anything or the end or will it be thrown into a complaint junk pile?

I'm probably asking the wrong person. Still, I'd like to hear your take on it.

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If the revenue stream dries up because Crunchyroll can't provide for-pay services in the US competitively, then the costs will probably rise in the UK to the point where the services will not be profitable there or there may not be enough revenue to supply the amount of quality programming to keep customers coming. However, if you are of voting age in the UK you can help shape the laws in the US. Another new ruling here allows corporations incredible influence over our politicians. Many of those companies have a significant portion of their stock owned by UK families. Put pressure on the house of Lords and Commons politicians to divest themselves of ownership of these companies. A group of US billionaires, UK and European billionaires, and Saudi billionaires have control of our nuclear industry, our defense industry, and our banking industry. Americans have never learned to take the streets. But, Europeans are good at it. Force the European politicians and holders of dynastic wealth to stop fueling the US crazies. Not all of us want these policies but we cannot overcome the money being spent to corrupt our politicians. 70 years ago we helped overcome the fascists that took over Europe. We need your help now. Point out when monarchs pretend to have no political activities but hold huge amounts of stock in companies that are paying for campaigns that are basically buying our politician. We currently have the capability to remove all European cities in 48 hours without resorting to using nuclear weapons. Europe needs to help us overcome the corruption machine. Ask your royal family about ownership of over 40 of our worst corporations ethically such as those that make tobacco products. When our president wanted a war in Iraq, he had no problems getting the UK on board because of the profit potential to industries in both countries. This law has direct roots in the profits of the dynastic wealth of UK. Start helping us there.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

What are you on about? If you don't fill out the form, you won't fill it out? I've no idea what you're actually asking.


Well, you said I wouldn't be able to type anything on it. It was your choice of words. Also, I was responding to your saying of we should be filling out the form. Which, if I do (or anyone else does), will it ultimately do anything or the end or will it be thrown into a complaint junk pile?

I'm probably asking the wrong person. Still, I'd like to hear your take on it.



Well if they were going to just throw them all away and go ahead with their plans then what would be the point of going through the hassle of starting this form in the first place? Regardless you should fill it out. If it's thrown in the junk there's nothing you can do about it, but if it's actually counted towards going against this then it's one more vote towards calling this out as bullshit. This is going to act against us to the point that you have to pay to access sites individually. Why would you want to sit idly by and let that happen?
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Well if they were going to just throw them all away and go ahead with their plans then what would be the point of going through the hassle of starting this form in the first place? Regardless you should fill it out. If it's thrown in the junk there's nothing you can do about it, but if it's actually counted towards going against this then it's one more vote towards calling this out as bullshit. This is going to act against us to the point that you have to pay to access sites individually. Why would you want to sit idly by and let that happen?


Right now, I'm just thinking "If this actually became a thing, then Youtube wouldn't be a thing anymore". I'm fine with it, really -- well as long as it doesn't hamper anything for school purposes.
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Well if they were going to just throw them all away and go ahead with their plans then what would be the point of going through the hassle of starting this form in the first place? Regardless you should fill it out. If it's thrown in the junk there's nothing you can do about it, but if it's actually counted towards going against this then it's one more vote towards calling this out as bullshit. This is going to act against us to the point that you have to pay to access sites individually. Why would you want to sit idly by and let that happen?


Right now, I'm just thinking "If this actually became a thing, then Youtube wouldn't be a thing anymore". I'm fine with it, really -- well as long as it doesn't hamper anything for school purposes.


Why don't you want Youtube to exist anymore?
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Why don't you want Youtube to exist anymore?


It's not so much Youtube, as I'm saying a lot things that we use almost daily (like Youtube) wouldn't have anywhere to go. Ultimately, I'm just curious as to if this does get passed as a thing, what would be the affect on the world? I want to see that affect, essentially.

As for it actually getting passed or not, I have doubts.
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Posted 5/16/14 , edited 5/16/14

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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Why don't you want Youtube to exist anymore?


It's not so much Youtube, as I'm saying a lot things that we use almost daily (like Youtube) wouldn't have anywhere to go. Ultimately, I'm just curious as to if this does get passed as a thing, what would be the affect on the world? I want to see that affect, essentially.

As for it actually getting passed or not, I have doubts.


It would probably have a terrible effect. What will happen, assuming it gets the thumbs up, is you have to pay extra to access every website you use individually, on top of pre-existing subscription fee's, too. Why you would want to see that strikes me as insane. You're essentially saying 'Sure, I'll gladly pay an obscene amount of money to use the internet'. Why you would want to do that is beyond me.
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Don't forget that Tom Wheeler will testify in front of the House Subcommittee on Communications and Technology... the commentary is just one end of it. The FCC has held conferences and meetings that have amounted to nothing- they ignored us in the end. To make these comments hold extra weight we also need to make our representatives aware of the situation, they won't want to displease voters. Also not all of them may be educated well on the subject as they come from different backgrounds, ignorance is what allowed much of this corruption to seep in the first place.
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If this is true, well, they better hope it ain't true. If you fuck with one part of the internet. You fuck with ALL of the internet. Get ready FCC, the whole god damn world's going to come at you.
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O.K. I got a reply from EFF about reclassifying ISPs as common carriers.


Thanks for contacting the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)!

Reclassifying and applying Common Carrier rules to the Internet is a little complicated matter. We have long voiced concerns about the FCC's history with applying public interest obligations with other telecommunications services and for now it's important to tell the FCC that the future of the Internet matters, and that the last thing we want to see is discrimination written into law

We will be posting something on our blog very shortly about what we think of the reclassification as Common Carriers.

At this current stage, we want to make sure that there is no tiered Internet, and accessible to everyone.

Thanks,


I left out names and stuff, but this is the whole message.

It seems that for now What EFF wants is to kill the FCC's plan of tiered Internet access. Later, they'll look at what can be done about suggesting new rules that are fair. It seems their going to write an article to explain the common carrier rules and why it's more complicated than it seems.
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The "two party system" is just a one-party system: The Republicrat / Demopublican party... It's the same bunch of fat cats running everything no matter who gets voted into or out of office


I completely agree. No matter which party is in office, they just pick up where the other one left off, and keep going.

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Man I already get a 300 GB data cap from Comcast and now they will make me pay more with everything else. I hate the government so much.
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Posted 5/17/14

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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Well if they were going to just throw them all away and go ahead with their plans then what would be the point of going through the hassle of starting this form in the first place? Regardless you should fill it out. If it's thrown in the junk there's nothing you can do about it, but if it's actually counted towards going against this then it's one more vote towards calling this out as bullshit. This is going to act against us to the point that you have to pay to access sites individually. Why would you want to sit idly by and let that happen?


Right now, I'm just thinking "If this actually became a thing, then Youtube wouldn't be a thing anymore". I'm fine with it, really -- well as long as it doesn't hamper anything for school purposes.


yes this would hamper things for school purposes. More and more schools are shifting to online courses with online streams etc. Some have even implemented virtual school rooms you have to attend every week. Schools will then up the price of ALL courses to balance the cost of having to pay for those streams. They wont revert to in class only. So.. YES you will be effected and things would hamper learning... unless you or your parents are so rich money means nothing.

Then again.. it could cause some educational institutions to cut back on some classes. So something like this could happen as well... "oh well, that cultural art class is only offered via the internet.. lets reduce that class to spring semester instead of offer it all year." So your learning would be limited there to. (because yes this happens in colleges.)

So basically, IF this happens, I as a parent, wont be able to finance a full course load per semester for my kids. They will either have to try and work while attending college, or deal with part time schooling.

IF this happens... it's a loosing situation for everyone, including you.
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