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Measles Vaccine Killed Cancer
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Posted 5/17/14
My favorite part was the guy name dropping Harvard, then doing a collage/post of internet idiocy.
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Posted 5/18/14 , edited 3/28/15
Wow...as a Cancer patient in remission, this makes Me Smile to know...With Cancer, ANY progress is of IMMEASURABLE wealth...Not monetary, but wealth of the Human Spirit; of the Human race...
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Posted 5/18/14

Phersu wrote:


Anticosm wrote:

Maybe they will come up with a way to cure stupidity with an inoculation to the brain.


They already did. The dispenser is this gun shaped....needle. Yeah, needle. The cure is in this.....totally not a bullet container.


What about blunt objects?
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Steve Jobs tried that natural stuff, look what that got him, an early death. You're one of those people who will cause resistant strains of viruses because of your denial of vaccines. Small pox was eradicated because of vaccines, but that was only because the governments of the time pushed everyone that could get infected to get vaccinated. Anyone who calls themselves a doctor and tells people not to use vaccines needs to get their medical licence taken from them.

Though I'm not certain it was a lethal amount since the person didn't die, plus as far as I know vaccines are viruses that have been neutralized so that their not harmful.
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x-Cellar_Door-x wrote:

Wow...as a Cancer patient in remission, this makes Me Smile to know...With Cancer, ANY progress is of IMMEASURABLE wealth...Not monetary, but wealth of the Human Spirit; of the Human race...


Agreed. I have lost two loved ones to the horrible disease; so any progress, no matter how little is still progress in finally beating the disease
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Posted 5/20/14 , edited 3/28/15
Well at least we can say were getting closer to getting at cancer. Trial and error is pretty much our only option and that's what science is. I know that if I ever get cancer I don't want tons of radiation dumped into me. The side affects are horrible too I hear. Anyways, hope the cure comes soon, already lost 2 members in my family tree to cancer.
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I think a lot of MD's out there would likely do nothing but sneer at your doctorate of homeopathic medicine (if you even have one). And rightly so. I don't know why you're using an anime forum as a platform to spread around dangerous medical advice.
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There's something ironic about using a virus to fight a disease to save a life but really if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Viruses do exactly that, they target specific cells and proliferate from them. If they are able to use viruses to target specific/mutated cells carrying a certain strand of DNA at some point in the future then pretty much cancer will be eliminated as a health problem.

The real question is will they be able to make a virus that specifically targets only mutated cells without damaging the body in any way. Its a neat study, far more safer than blasting the body with gamma rays.
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It's probably a good thing you deleted your account NatDoc...That's a bit...much for what you are preaching. Reading it made me have a number of facepalms. If you have evidence from specific, well-founded scientific studies, your point of view would make more sense...sure personal experience is nice...but it kind of doesn't prove much of anything. This kind of "information" coming from a Harvard graduate (then again, I can say I'm a Harvard graduate and a doctor too on the internets~)? This makes me scared.

My poor professors who work on vaccine research...how they would cringe

Then again it's an anime forum. Trolls. Trolls everywhere.
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Your information is blatantly incorrect and not founded upon medical science, it sounds like a bunch of naturopathic garbage.

Vaccine manufacturing is regulated by the FDA. There is the possibility for error in any kind of manufacturing in any setting, but by and large the vast vast vast majority do not have issues with them. When it comes to reconstituting vaccines like Zostavax practitioners are to take great care in how they do it, when I reconstitute a vaccine before administering one to a patient I follow the guidelines and double check my work, I've never had issues with that. As far as "horse pee" goes, which specific compound in vaccines are you referring to? Vaccines have been thoroughly regulated and deemed by the FDA to be safe in the use of humans, there are adverse events (usually allergic reaction) people can have, but that's true for pretty much any drug or substance and not due to faulty vaccine. I can accept that mistakes may happen, but on the flip side one must not take the fact that mistakes may happen to mean that something should never be used, the benefit outweighs the risk. That's like saying because someone may make a mistake driving and cause an accident that no one should ever drive anywhere.

You may want to brush up on your molecular biology and biochemistry. It's scientifically accepted that DNA damage and mutation by and large result in cancer formation. Review oncogenes and tumor suppressor genes, in cancers these are almost always mutated. Cancer is a disease of acquired mutation. There are billions and billions of cells in the human body and in each cell there are billions of DNA base pairs that have the possibility to mutate. It takes mutations in the right places to cause cancer, but when you have billions of cells and billions of possible mutations one cell out of those billions may have mutations on oncogenes resulting in upregulated growth and mutations in tumor suppressor genes that would inhibit that cell's growth, that one cell can then grow and divide infinitely to form a tumor and cause disease. Tell me, which hormones shut off mitochondria? I'm also familiar with apoptosis, and the primary reason why cells evade apoptosis is that they have mutations in the genes coding for apoptotic proteins and tumor suppressors that would initiate the apoptosis. P53 is a commonly discussed cell cycle protein that is influental in apoptosis. In many cancers P53 is mutated and doesn't function properly. BCL-2 is another common family of proteins that may be mutated, they are the proteins that actually inset themselves into the mitochondria that initiate apoptosis via release of cytochrome C from the mitochondria. This isn't due to hormones, it's due to genetic mutations dealing with apoptosis and the cell's ability to evade it. The energy debt in cancer cells is due to them using up tons of energy to actively grow and divide, we can use diagnostic tests and radioactive sugars to see what areas of the body are using excessive sugars (usually tumors trying to grow) to spot cancer in the body.

Hormones may play a role in some cancers, namely breast and prostate cancer, but that's because the native cells that mutated to become cancer may be positively impacted by hormones like estrogen or androgens with them being pro-growth signals. We have drugs like Tamoxifen that block estrogen receptors in the body to help decrease the rate of growth of those tumor cells that may be further stimulated by natural hormones.

Your claim that all diseases originate in the gut is blatantly false. Hippocrates may have been a good philosopher or physician for his time given the knowledge at that time, but their scientific theories have been largely shown to be false since we now have access to more thorough investigative means. What they knew hundreds or thousands of years ago was speculation and not science, their philosophical principals may still have meaning, but their scientific ones are obsolete or outright wrong. Old theories like humors, homeopathy and many forms of traditional medicine have been shown to be false through science and what we know now in our time. Our gut also does not control the source of allergies, that's more of an immune response issue and much of it being related to IgE antibody reactions leading to degranulation of mast cells and other histamine containing cells, this is why anti-histamine drugs work well in controlling allergy symptoms. Gut health is important for overall health and there can be diseases in the gut or of the gut, but it's not where all diseases stem from and not all conditions are related.

I don't want to sound arrogant, but I am a degreed molecular biologist and P3 student in a Doctor of Pharmacy curriculum. I've personally spent over a year working on cancer research and am a published scientist listed as an author on the projects I've worked on (can't take credit as a PI though since I worked for them as a student). You can claim to be a doctor (and given the information you posted I question that) but if you want to use your credentials as means of boosting your argument you aren't the only one that has some in this area.
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