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So I've been doing alot of research on the supposed Black Hole, that is the subdued anime industry in the UK and I just wanted to know, how bad is it? I'm a resident of the US and just want to learn more on how everything works over there cause I hear anime is relatively obscure in the UK with specific laws being in place and barely any Tv exposure compared to some other countries and nations.

And also feel free to discuss anime's status in other regions or your own countries in this thread
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I just got back from 4 months in the UK, so here's some stuff I noticed.

-Less TV exposure. This is true. As far as I found, the UK has nothing equivalent to Toonami, which drew really good ratings recently for Attack on Titan.

-Physical Media: I actually found physical media easier to access by conventional means than in the US. Anime has a place in your regular media stores (HMV, namely, that I found), as well as other specialty shops around. Granted, I haven't looked much in the States, but I think the evidence would bear out my theory that US physical media is distributed mainly by the internet.
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I just got back from 4 months in the UK, so here's some stuff I noticed.

-Less TV exposure. This is true. As far as I found, the UK has nothing equivalent to Toonami, which drew really good ratings recently for Attack on Titan.

-Physical Media: I actually found physical media easier to access by conventional means than in the US. Anime has a place in your regular media stores (HMV, namely, that I found), as well as other specialty shops around. Granted, I haven't looked much in the States, but I think the evidence would bear out my theory that US physical media is distributed mainly by the internet.


We have Manga sections in places like the library or book stores like Barnes & Noble, but its not in the front row or anything, but its there still

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I hear Manga UK, their main anime distributor, is basically struggling by each day
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I live in US but I'll talk about the industry in Korea since I'm from there and I talk to Korean otakus on my blog.

Let's start with the bright side.

So since Korea is a small country, it's easy to get to places. Even if you don't have a car. Public transportations run throughout everywhere and they are pretty cheap. They have several good places for figures and other anime stuff.

The books (Japanese manga & light novels) come out the fastest after Japan. Usually, only 1 or 2 volumes behind Japan. And the price is cheap. Only like $5 for manga and $7.50 for light novels. And like Japan, they have "First Press Limited Editions" which is more expensive than the regular edition (but they are about the price of a normal manga in US -_-. I know. In here, we pay more for less.) and they come with really cool stuff such as posters, bath towels, puzzles, mini figures, etc. Bookstores have lots of mangas and light novels in stock so you don't have to go around several different bookstores like you do here. This is why I order most of my books from Korea through international shipping.

Now it's gonna get darker...

They don't have big anime conventions like we do here. Instead, they have something called "Comic World" in Seoul and Busan. They mostly sell posters and illustrations. And people cosplay there. But the bad thing is, Koreans seriously hate otakus. That's why they don't let you in while wearing your cosplay. You have to sign in and get changed inside the event area. And they charge extra for that because they decided to take advantage of that. Only good thing is, there's one every month and it's not that expensive to go there.

Otakus getting bullied is a serious problem. In Korean school, announcing you are an otaku is like social suicide. Unless you have otaku friends in your class. Korean schools work very similar to Japanese schools. You have uniforms for middle and high school and have classes like 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-1, 2-2, etc. And they have "night self-study times" and you are free to read books. And just because you are reading light novels, they will assume you do all these horrible things. It's also because Koreans tend to hate Japan.

Drawing or translating an H doujinshi in Korea gets you locked up for 5 years for the same offense of "Creating child pornography" if the character is below 18. They only lock you up for 3 years if you actually rape a child. (say you were drunk, and they even reduce that.) That's the fucked up part about Korea. They have this feminist government branch everyone's wanting to get rid of but it just doesn't work. And they make all the weird laws, thinking all men are criminals.

Otakus are more hardcore in Korea because they can only hang out with other otakus. People look at otakus as social failures. In here though, they don't seem to care nearly as much. But they do the craziest stuff since they are only friends with other otakus. Like sleep overs with dakimakuras (body pillows) and stuff like that.
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FkYouBish wrote:

I live in US but I'll talk about the industry in Korea since I'm from there and I talk to Korean otakus on my blog.

Let's start with the bright side.

So since Korea is a small country, it's easy to get to places. Even if you don't have a car. Public transportations run throughout everywhere and they are pretty cheap. They have several good places for figures and other anime stuff.

The books (Japanese manga & light novels) come out the fastest after Japan. Usually, only 1 or 2 volumes behind Japan. And the price is cheap. Only like $5 for manga and $7.50 for light novels. And like Japan, they have "First Press Limited Editions" which is more expensive than the regular edition (but they are about the price of a normal manga in US -_-. I know. In here, we pay more for less.) and they come with really cool stuff such as posters, bath towels, puzzles, mini figures, etc. Bookstores have lots of mangas and light novels in stock so you don't have to go around several different bookstores like you do here. This is why I order most of my books from Korea through international shipping.

Now it's gonna get darker...

They don't have big anime conventions like we do here. Instead, they have something called "Comic World" in Seoul and Busan. They mostly sell posters and illustrations. And people cosplay there. But the bad thing is, Koreans seriously hate otakus. That's why they don't let you in while wearing your cosplay. You have to sign in and get changed inside the event area. And they charge extra for that because they decided to take advantage of that. Only good thing is, there's one every month and it's not that expensive to go there.

Otakus getting bullied is a serious problem. In Korean school, announcing you are an otaku is like social suicide. Unless you have otaku friends in your class. Korean schools work very similar to Japanese schools. You have uniforms for middle and high school and have classes like 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-1, 2-2, etc. And they have "night self-study times" and you are free to read books. And just because you are reading light novels, they will assume you do all these horrible things. It's also because Koreans tend to hate Japan.

Drawing or translating an H doujinshi in Korea gets you locked up for 5 years for the same offense of "Creating child pornography" if the character is below 18. They only lock you up for 3 years if you actually rape a child. (say you were drunk, and they even reduce that.) That's the fucked up part about Korea. They have this feminist government branch everyone's wanting to get rid of but it just doesn't work. And they make all the weird laws, thinking all men are criminals.

Otakus are more hardcore in Korea because they can only hang out with other otakus. People look at otakus as social failures. In here though, they don't seem to care nearly as much. But they do the craziest stuff since they are only friends with other otakus. Like sleep overs with dakimakuras (body pillows) and stuff like that.


What if you play Starcraft? Does that make you cool or lame?
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What if you play Starcraft? Does that make you cool or lame?


Neither cool nor lame. Same thing with League of Legends. Oh yeah, did you know that in Korea, people under 16 gets forced shutdown from online games after midnight? It's illegal for ppl 16 and under to play online games from midnight to 6 am. They had this 13 year old prodigy in an international Starcraft tournament and he was forced to quit because of that shit.

Also, the ones who only watch mainstream animes are gonna be assholes, even more than the ones in here. They will say shit like "Everyone watches Attack on Titan so it's a must-watch, highly rated anime. The shit you watch is for loser lolicons."
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Well I can't speak for the whole of the UK, but where I live it's pretty damn hard to come by. Outside of a few little manga sections here and there (which contain very little in the way of content) I never really see much. Like you said, there's also very little TV exposure. We really only get stuff like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh on the kids channel and that's it. It's also not great for the image of anime, since it only strengthens the image that anime is 'Japanese cartoons for children'.
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Well I can't speak for the whole of the UK, but where I live it's pretty damn hard to come by. Outside of a few little manga sections here and there (which contain very little in the way of content) I never really see much. Like you said, there's also very little TV exposure. We really only get stuff like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh on the kids channel and that's it. It's also not great for the image of anime, since it only strengthens the image that anime is 'Japanese cartoons for children'.


I feel sorry for that section on the world cause of the massive stigma against anime and massive patience u guys have to deal with to obtain massive titles and propertys, like for instance you guys got both Dragon Ball and One Piece extremely late in the game, years after people moved on from Japanese animation in general I imagine
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BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

Well I can't speak for the whole of the UK, but where I live it's pretty damn hard to come by. Outside of a few little manga sections here and there (which contain very little in the way of content) I never really see much. Like you said, there's also very little TV exposure. We really only get stuff like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh on the kids channel and that's it. It's also not great for the image of anime, since it only strengthens the image that anime is 'Japanese cartoons for children'.


I feel sorry for that section on the world cause of the massive stigma against anime and massive patience u guys have to deal with to obtain massive titles and propertys, like for instance you guys got both Dragon Ball and One Piece extremely late in the game, years after people moved on from Japanese animation in general I imagine


Indeed. I distinctly remember us having a channel called Jetix, which I think used to show quite a bit of anime, more than we get now. Unforunately it got taken over by Disney XD and replaced with more Western stuff so we don't get that anymore. I think we had Naruto at one point, and I remember changing the channel to Dragonball Z as soon as one of the Androids got their head's crushed, but outside of that we never really got much, and the amount of it seems to be decreasing as opposed to increasing as time goes on. Unfortunately we're just not really a country where anime thrives. A lot of people turn their noses up at the mention of it anyway. I have one friend I can talk to about it and that's it.
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The UK industry is suffering from coming to the end of another boom for Anime. There was a time post Pokemon where on the back of how huge it was in the UK everyone and his Mother wanted a piece of the Anime pie and tons of stuff got licenced by cartoon channels. Sci Fi channel used to show tons of it but eventually they all got tired of it because nothing became as big as Pokemon or they just ran out of episodes and didn't feel like buying more so the boom stagnated and even the two channels that consistantly showed Anime Sci Fi and Channel 4 since the early 90's boom just dropped it all together.

We have a few Anime distributors including the main two Manga UK and MVM which have been around since the early 90's though they downsized over the years and Manga employs about 3 staff and MVM is basically just run by one guy now. We also had Beez until Bandai shut it down and gave up on Europe. Some staff from that formed a company called Kaze which co-released a bunch of stuff with Manga UK and they also release older anime boxed sets on Blu Ray under the All The Anime label. But again it's only a small number of people running the show at our big industry Expo, MCM Expo in London the Anime industry panel is like 3-4 guys and they are running the entire Anime industry by themselves often working together to get releases out there.

A lot of Anime is going to streaming these days and sites like this have become more popular which in turn has made UK distributors suffer and they have tried to set up streaming services but they don't do so well because they can't compete with big American companies for titles so lose out.

So yeah it's become harder due to TV channels not backing Anime anymore and distribution being slow because they face so much competition from abroad. It's still better than when i first became a fan of Anime because at least now you can find a lot of Anime in shops or online. Before you would only find a couple of really popular titles like Akira and Ghost In The Shell in a mainstream store. It's come to a point where it's pretty bad but it's probably not going to get any worse anytime soon.
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Korea Land and Otaku-ism


That is one of the more interesting that I have read on these for a while.

I think you should write a separate thread for this. It is quite intriguing. Let me know when you. I want to read up on it. Thanks!
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I think with alltheanime / anime limited have helped show the world we in the uk are willing fans. It's cos no company will broadcast it on tv. Also the only shops that sell it are online retailers or just hmv. Except to this is asda with ghibli films since disney have a partnership.

I'd like to see more anime on tv, on cr & generally more in the uk. Though i still think we'll have to import some.
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