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Posted 5/18/14 , edited 5/18/14

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In the UK anime is pretty much dead. Only shops I know that sell anime is like HMV, we get most DVD releases though so they can just be bought from amazon. Only anime that airs on TV here is yugioh, pokemon and DBZ.
Pretty much it's not great here :(' would love to have something like toonami over here again


If they are only on Amazon, are they the North American release DVD? Or do they have UK/European release?

Toonami sucks btw. I never liked English dubs. Most of them are just bullshitted. Usually, the OP songs are cut short. Either that or they'll make a BS 30 second one. Animes like K-ON, where characters sing, they just use the original Japanese song. The background texts are still in Japanese.

Koreans have a channel called "AniPlus" and I'm just so jealous. There's a channel and website. The website is similar to Crunchyroll. But the channel, they actually air the anime at the same time as Japan. Just no subs. Few hours later, they have it on their site with subs. And in few months, they dub it. The thing I don't like about the Korean dubs, is that instead of cute young people doing the dubs, they have mid-age people, trying their best to mock the original Japanese dub. But they actually do more than just dubbing the characters. They edit the background texts in the anime so they are in Korean. In stuff like K-ON, they actually sing the songs in Korean. Sometimes they have their own original OP/ED songs.
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FkYouBish wrote:
Same thing with South East Asians looking up to Koreans because of k-pop and k-drama. Koreans actually look down on them. For similar white ppl look down on Mexicans and Central Americans


What's so special about k-pop/drama? Also don't generalize white people as n-americans


Nothing. Their soap operas are ideas all taken from Japanese anime and Hong Kong dramas from the 90's. Add in actors+actress who are heavily knifed up from surgery and you have Kdrama.

Southeast Asian girls who have no idea how beautiful they are when naturally compared with natural citizens of Koreans. Like someone else said, the new generation there idolize Koreans both the good and the bad. One hairstyle I remember a girl from Vietnam sported looked so horrible on her but she swore I didn't get it because I wasn't up to date on Korean trend.

When it comes to music, people who think K-pop is superior to J-pop generally have no clue about the vast amount of J-pop genres covers.

Personally I've never had problems with Japanese or Koreans in the United States. They're just like any other race here. My brother and I are southeast Asians. We're considered attractive and are always mistaken for Koreans when we go out (10 years ago it was Chinese), with their assumption that Southeast Asians can't be attractive.





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I feel bad for European fans – and I am including the UK there – of anime / manga and video games. It seems like they get the shite end of the stick every single time.

On fandom in Korea: The fact that nobody can be anonymous on the Korean version of the Internet is a little unsettling. I feel comfortable about talking fandom in places like CR because my real identity is put in no danger by doing so, and I can scarcely imagine a situation where even the Internet is not a safe forum for discussion.

Meanwhile, the scene in my particular area of the U.S. is ... well ... let me put it this way: I get the feeling there are people here who still think we're at war with Japan.
Posted 5/18/14 , edited 5/18/14

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People tend to have this major idolization of East Asian nations as if they can do nothing wrong, so it's difficult in the political science field to break things down. There's often a built up double standard for everything from child porn, rape porn, anti-immigration, and whatever else that comes out of Japan that isn't positive in other nations. It doesn't make Japan necessarily an evil place, but too often are we quick to brush things off as "Well, it's Japan." They'll fight to the death for a society they're not even a part of.

I can assure you, majority of Japanese people would not do the same for you.


Same thing with SouthEast Asians looking up to Koreans because of k-pop and k-drama. Koreans actually look down on them. For similar reason white ppl in US look down on Mexicans and Central Americans



Let us put in this way. There is racism everywhere and from ALL people, but (in my opinion - as a person of Asian-ethnicity) it is the worst in Asia, though people like to pretend it isn't.

Come now, Asians worship white/European people. The whiter the skin, the better the treatment in Asia. This is absolute fact. Especially in countries such as Hong Kong, South Korea, China...

Only time Asians care about racism, is when they face racism from white/European people. Anyone else? Not such a big deal or they just do not care.

I am sick to death of this nonsense.
Posted 5/18/14 , edited 5/18/14

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Nyashaa wrote:


FkYouBish wrote:
Same thing with South East Asians looking up to Koreans because of k-pop and k-drama. Koreans actually look down on them. For similar white ppl look down on Mexicans and Central Americans


What's so special about k-pop/drama? Also don't generalize white people as n-americans


Nothing. Their soap operas are ideas all taken from Japanese anime and Hong Kong dramas from the 90's. Add in actors+actress who are heavily knifed up from surgery and you have Kdrama.

Southeast Asian girls who have no idea how beautiful they are when naturally compared with natural citizens of Koreans. Like someone else said, the new generation there idolize Koreans both the good and the bad. One hairstyle I remember a girl from Vietnam sported looked so horrible on her but she swore I didn't get it because I wasn't up to date on Korean trend.

When it comes to music, people who think K-pop is superior to J-pop generally have no clue about the vast amount of J-pop genres covers.

Personally I've never had problems with Japanese or Koreans in the United States. They're just like any other race here. My brother and I are southeast Asians. We're considered attractive and are always mistaken for Koreans when we go out (10 years ago it was Chinese), with their assumption that Southeast Asians can't be attractive.


You know, in a way it is a good thing that North Korea still exists, because that is the only way we know what actual Koreans look like.

I don't get the obsession with K-pop/drama either, and I do not care for it whatsoever.

The dramas are (as you said) taken from Japan/somewhere else, then acted out by people considered "beautiful" after a ton of plastic surgery/etc. Besides, pretty much every plot is the same stupid nonsense and the acting is cheesy and poor. K-pop is just like the plastic pop that is popular world wide now no matter the country and its garbage. Shallow garbage at that.

People are worshiping a country that has gotten outrageously superficial and is suffering from serious self-esteem issues in terms of natural looks, YET they're quick to put down other countries!

As for your other comment: "We're considered attractive and are always mistaken for Koreans when we go out (10 years ago it was Chinese), with their assumption that Southeast Asians can't be attractive"...

I am guessing you're fair-skinned? Well, as a deeper brown skinned Filipino-American, I most certainly have come across racism sometimes from Chinese and especially Korean people (especially the ones who have recently immigrated to the country).

To the average Asian person no matter the nationality...The whiter your skin, the more beautiful you are.

You lampshaded this yourself by saying, "...with their assumption that Southeast Asian can't be attractive..." To them, you went against this by being fair-skinned, instead of the more typical "unattractive darker skinned Southeast Asian". I am sure if you weren't fairer-skinned, you wouldn't always be so complimented.

Of course those same people who are racist complain when they're the subject of racism from the whites they worship...

How very funny.
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To the average Asian person no matter the nationality...The whiter your skin, the more beautiful you are.

You lampshaded this yourself by saying, "...with their assumption that Southeast Asian can't be attractive..." To them, you went against this by being fair-skinned, instead of the more typical "unattractive darker skinned Southeast Asian". I am sure if you weren't fairer-skinned, you wouldn't always be so complimented.

Of course those same people who are racist complain when they're the subject of racism from the whites they worship...

How very funny.


That is pretty funny because for white people it is the opposite. The more white you are the more unhealthy and unattractive people think you are. Mainly because we associate being pale with being sickly, and being tan with being hard working and healthy. Ever hear the saying "Tall, Dark, and Handsome?" that is what it refers to.
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Anime's booming in Vietnam like crazy .-.
Visited there a few months ago and they had stores and conventions everywhere .-.
Posted 5/18/14 , edited 5/18/14

xxJing wrote:


SoldierSangria wrote:


To the average Asian person no matter the nationality...The whiter your skin, the more beautiful you are.

You lampshaded this yourself by saying, "...with their assumption that Southeast Asian can't be attractive..." To them, you went against this by being fair-skinned, instead of the more typical "unattractive darker skinned Southeast Asian". I am sure if you weren't fairer-skinned, you wouldn't always be so complimented.

Of course those same people who are racist complain when they're the subject of racism from the whites they worship...

How very funny.


That is pretty funny because for white people it is the opposite. The more white you are the more unhealthy and unattractive people think you are. Mainly because we associate being pale with being sickly, and being tan with being hard working and healthy. Ever hear the saying "Tall, Dark, and Handsome?" that is what it refers to.


For whites, the mentality has changed over time. For centuries, lighter skin was a prized and valuable asset. Showed you were wealthy, and didn't work outside in the fields. From the 50's upwards (really took off in the 60's - 70's though...) tan skin became popular and a sign of beauty, and looking good.

There is also a big difference between being "tan" being "brown", being "dark" and being "black" colored.

I'm fine with people having their preferences, but when it comes to mistreating someone solely on the basis of how they look/color of their skin - that is where I have the problem.

I think over time in Asia, it has just gotten worse.
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essex1 wrote:


Nyashaa wrote:


FkYouBish wrote:
Same thing with South East Asians looking up to Koreans because of k-pop and k-drama. Koreans actually look down on them. For similar white ppl look down on Mexicans and Central Americans


What's so special about k-pop/drama? Also don't generalize white people as n-americans


Nothing. Their soap operas are ideas all taken from Japanese anime and Hong Kong dramas from the 90's. Add in actors+actress who are heavily knifed up from surgery and you have Kdrama.

Southeast Asian girls who have no idea how beautiful they are when naturally compared with natural citizens of Koreans. Like someone else said, the new generation there idolize Koreans both the good and the bad. One hairstyle I remember a girl from Vietnam sported looked so horrible on her but she swore I didn't get it because I wasn't up to date on Korean trend.

When it comes to music, people who think K-pop is superior to J-pop generally have no clue about the vast amount of J-pop genres covers.

Personally I've never had problems with Japanese or Koreans in the United States. They're just like any other race here. My brother and I are southeast Asians. We're considered attractive and are always mistaken for Koreans when we go out (10 years ago it was Chinese), with their assumption that Southeast Asians can't be attractive.


You know, in a way it is a good thing that North Korea still exists, because that is the only way we know what actual Koreans look like.

I don't get the obsession with K-pop/drama either, and I do not care for it whatsoever.

The dramas are (as you said) taken from Japan/somewhere else, then acted out by people considered "beautiful" after a ton of plastic surgery/etc. Besides, pretty much every plot is the same stupid nonsense and the acting is cheesy and poor. K-pop is just like the plastic pop that is popular world wide now no matter the country and its garbage. Shallow garbage at that.

People are worshiping a country that has gotten outrageously superficial and is suffering from serious self-esteem issues in terms of natural looks, YET they're quick to put down other countries!

As for your other comment: "We're considered attractive and are always mistaken for Koreans when we go out (10 years ago it was Chinese), with their assumption that Southeast Asians can't be attractive"...

I am guessing you're fair-skinned? Well, as a deeper brown skinned Filipino-American, I most certainly have come across racism sometimes from Chinese and especially Korean people (especially the ones who have recently immigrated to the country).

To the average Asian person no matter the nationality...The whiter your skin, the more beautiful you are.

You lampshaded this yourself by saying, "...with their assumption that Southeast Asian can't be attractive..." To them, you went against this by being fair-skinned, instead of the more typical "unattractive darker skinned Southeast Asian". I am sure if you weren't fairer-skinned, you wouldn't always be so complimented.

Of course those same people who are racist complain when they're the subject of racism from the whites they worship...

How very funny.


My brother and I tan very easily. He's actually very dark right now because of outdoor biking every day. We also both lose our tans very fast if we don't get a lot of sunlight, which is what happens to me fairly often since I enjoy indoor activities more.

The light skin compliments are yay and nay for men these days. You can be considered too feminine/weak if you're too pale. I have a lot of reddish undertones so that helps a bit. For women, treasuring their white skin is still a definite truth though. The common belief that Southeast Asians think fat = prosperity is also fading away. Most of them prefer extremely skinny like their starlets.

When I say Southeast Asians being assumed unattractive, I mean people don't even register them on the radar. Maybe they think we're still jungle monkeys that walk around barefoot :D.


Superificiality is a huge problem that's sweeping the world though. Humans are more narcissistic today than they have ever been. I do agree that in the parts of Asia, S. Korea is leading the way to humanity's downfall right now. In the West, it's probably the United States.
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My brother and I tan very easily. He's actually very dark right now because of outdoor biking every day. We also both lose our tans very fast if we don't get a lot of sunlight, which is what happens to me fairly often since I enjoy indoor activities more.

The light skin compliments are yay and nay for men these days. You can be considered too feminine/weak if you're too pale. I have a lot of reddish undertones so that helps a bit. For women, treasuring their white skin is still a definite truth though. The common belief that Southeast Asians think fat = prosperity is also fading away. Most of them prefer extremely skinny like their starlets.

When I say Southeast Asians being assumed unattractive, I mean people don't even register them on the radar. Maybe they think we're still jungle monkeys that walk around barefoot :D.

Superificiality is a huge problem that's sweeping the world though. Humans are more narcissistic today than they have ever been. I do agree that in the parts of Asia, S. Korea is leading the way to humanity's downfall right now. In the West, it's probably the United States.


"Very dark" to an Asian can mean a lot of different things...Lol. But anyways..

Yup, I hate the superficiality trend that has consumed the world. I could write on and on about how I hate it, but really - it is a huge problem and it comes from many sources.

For me, South Korea tops the list beyond any country period. In so many ways, they have really outdone the world in terms of shallowness, fakeness and superficiality. And many of the immigrants that go to different parts of the world bring that right along with them. Seen it, observed it, been disgusted by it.

The States have their problems as well, but for me, it is a combo of the US, many parts of Europe, Australia and just the more uppercrust wealthy that top the list in the West for me. I guess I speak like this because I have a lot of family spread out over the world, and from what I have heard - this superficiality disease is running rampant, and the US is not the worst at all, though it gets more attention as usual.

The world in general disgusts me in many ways nowadays.

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