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Posted 5/18/14
Did you like the movie? If not, why? Did the movie make you think differently towards God( well if you didn't believe in him before) Tell me what you think, I don't care if your christian or not, I just want to know your thoughts.

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Posted 5/18/14
damn i can't comment without seeing the movie? :(.
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Nah. Haven't seen it.
Have seen a few clips, though. Looks pretty dumb.


I have also seen some clips it looks utterly embarrassing.
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Posted 5/18/14
lol. people who haven't seen the movie are the people who like to comment...including me
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So I watched the movie, and I figured I'd share my thoughts on it along the way. So I wrote them down as it went through.
I've divided the sections between the parts that are relevant to the issue of God's credibility and the ones that aren't, but were still worthy of mention.
I've also addressed the points that the protagonist makes during the debate scenes.

I tried going into the movie with a mind as open as possible, so let's see how it fares...

Let's begin:

The first half-hour is used for establishing the characters and build-up to the debate.






Here comes the first part of the debate.




Debate sequence ends.







The debate begins again




Debate sequence ends.




Part three of the debate ensues.




The debate is over.





And thus, the movie ends.



Verdict:

The movie has some good parts in it. It has glimpses of great cinematography, it has decent acting, good music, and some scenes that gets me genuinely invested.
However, the negative things are far greater in number.
All non-christians in the movie are antagonized. Every single one of them is an arrogant, violent or heartless jerk. Every. Single. One.
The christians on the other hand, with the exception of Josh's girlfriend, are all glorified and presented as pure, perfect saints.
As such, the movie is obviously extremely one-sided, and the movie panders to the "poor persecuted christian" audience with every chance it gets.

As far as its attempts at apologetics goes, the arguments are thin, dishonest and easily debunked. In that regard, the movie should be called "The Strawman's Not Dead". Not a single convincing argument comes out of Josh's mouth. Once again reaffirming that the movie isn't meant for anyone other than the christian audience.
Which wouldn't necessarily be so bad in and of itself, if it wasn't such a blatantly obvious piece of propaganda.
Really, it's degree of antagonizing, strawmanning, stereotyping and pandering is downright offensive. As is the ending.
Fuck. That. Ending.

Did it change my views on God? No. It did not. I find his existence to be just as lacking in compelling arguments and evidence as I did before.


If it had been more balanced and honest, I might have given it a better score. It gets a plus for the cinematography and the music, but the theme, its portrayal of the characters and the ending is just too much to ignore.

2/10
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Posted 5/21/14

Syndicaidramon wrote:

So I watched the movie, and I figured I'd share my thoughts on it along the way. So I wrote them down as it went through.
I've divided the sections between the parts that are relevant to the issue of God's credibility and the ones that aren't, but were still worthy of mention.
I've also addressed the points that the protagonist makes during the debate scenes.

I tried going into the movie with a mind as open as possible, so let's see how it fares...

Let's begin:

The first half-hour is used for establishing the characters and build-up to the debate.






Here comes the first part of the debate.




Debate sequence ends.







The debate begins again




Debate sequence ends.




Part three of the debate ensues.




The debate is over.





And thus, the movie ends.



Verdict:

The movie has some good parts in it. It has glimpses of great cinematography, it has decent acting, good music, and some scenes that gets me genuinely invested.
However, the negative things are far greater in number.
All non-christians in the movie are antagonized. Every single one of them is an arrogant, violent or heartless jerk. Every. Single. One.
The christians on the other hand, with the exception of Josh's girlfriend, are all glorified and presented as pure, perfect saints.
As such, the movie is obviously extremely one-sided, and the movie panders to the "poor persecuted christian" audience with every chance it gets.

As far as its attempts at apologetics goes, the arguments are thin, dishonest and easily debunked. In that regard, the movie should be called "The Strawman's Not Dead". Not a single convincing argument comes out of Josh's mouth. Once again reaffirming that the movie isn't meant for anyone other than the christian audience.
Which wouldn't necessarily be so bad in and of itself, if it wasn't such a blatantly obvious piece of propaganda.
Really, it's degree of antagonizing, strawmanning, stereotyping and pandering is downright offensive. As is the ending.
Fuck. That. Ending.

Did it change my views on God? No. It did not. I find his existence to be just as lacking in compelling arguments and evidence as I did before.


If it had been more balanced and honest, I might have given it a better score. It gets a plus for the cinematography and the music, but the theme, its portrayal of the characters and the ending is just too much to ignore.

2/10


Thanks for commenting. I read all your points you made, I thought everything you wrote was very interesting. But there was one point i like to make. In your verdict, you said this film isn't meant for anyone other than the christian audience, I dont see that rather true. Ive seen some other reviews of non-Christians, some of them even enjoyed watching God's Not Dead. They didnt automatically convert to Christianity but somehow saw God in a different light.

Bu I wonder ,why did you see the movie? Was it just to comment to the post or was it something else? I saw your previous comment, saying that you saw the movie trailer and thought it was pointless or something to that nature.

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Posted 5/21/14 , edited 5/21/14

Leechan69 wrote:
Thanks for commenting. I read all your points you made, I thought everything you wrote was very interesting. But there was one point i like to make. In your verdict, you said this film isn't meant for anyone other than the christian audience, I dont see that rather true. Ive seen some other reviews of non-Christians, some of them even enjoyed watching God's Not Dead. They didnt automatically convert to Christianity but somehow saw God in a different light.

Bu I wonder ,why did you see the movie? Was it just to comment to the post or was it something else? I saw your previous comment, saying that you saw the movie trailer and thought it was pointless or something to that nature.



For the most part, it actually was just to make a comment here. Thought that I should at least know what it's about before I open my mouth. And I was also kinda curious to see what all the fuss was about. From both the christian and the atheist communities.

In regards to non-christians enjoying this, well I guess it's possible. Like I said, there were some parts that I found genuinely enjoyable. Especially the music.
But the way it antagonizes all the non-christians to such a ridiculous degree while saintifying the christians, how it makes thin strawman arguments and presents it as compelling deal-breaking insight and its incredibly cliché and nonsensical moments... It's just too much in opposition to the good parts for me personally.
It just feels like the movie is pandering so hard to the christian audience.

And the ending. That ending made me really mad.
I didn't like Radison at all, but the ending that he got was just so incredibly insulting, I had to go out and take a walk before I could come back and finish the movie.
Which sucks, because it ruined the ending sequence (which I was really liking so far) that was so upbeat and happy and had such nice music.

Regarding seeing God in a new light... well I can't say for sure obviously, but I have a hunch that those people aren't really thinking very much through what they're hearing or that they have much understanding or knowledge in regards to science.
I don't have any fancy degrees or anything, but I personally found all of his argument to be thin and easily debunkable. And sometimes even downright dishonest.
Then again, that's just me...

I was thinking regarding the "seeing God in a new light" thing, though... I wasn't sure if that would be a correct term to use, as I didn't find the movie to be so much about God as a character as it was about the credibility regarding his existence.
Were there some people whose views on God himself were altered from this movie?
If so, I'd be interested in hearing it, if you remember any.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on... my thoughts.
As far as I understand, you really liked the movie, so I thank you for being polite in response to my harsh criticism, and I hope it didn't offend you too much
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So the movie is basically a drama about the internet debate on the existence of God compressed into 2 hours?

~~~~GODzilla here I come~~~~
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So the movie is basically a drama about the internet debate on the existence of God compressed into 2 hours?

~~~~GODzilla here I come~~~~


Yeah, pretty much.
A very one sided drama to boot...
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Posted 5/22/14

Syndicaidramon wrote:


tweety_cool wrote:

So the movie is basically a drama about the internet debate on the existence of God compressed into 2 hours?

~~~~GODzilla here I come~~~~


Yeah, pretty much.
A very one sided drama to boot...


Lol for some reason it sounds like a very bad comedy aswell.
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MarkyD73 wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


tweety_cool wrote:

So the movie is basically a drama about the internet debate on the existence of God compressed into 2 hours?

~~~~GODzilla here I come~~~~


Yeah, pretty much.
A very one sided drama to boot...


Lol for some reason it sounds like a very bad comedy aswell.


It's not. The only comedy you'll get from this movie is purely unintentional.
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Posted 5/22/14

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Leechan69 wrote:
Thanks for commenting. I read all your points you made, I thought everything you wrote was very interesting. But there was one point i like to make. In your verdict, you said this film isn't meant for anyone other than the christian audience, I dont see that rather true. Ive seen some other reviews of non-Christians, some of them even enjoyed watching God's Not Dead. They didnt automatically convert to Christianity but somehow saw God in a different light.

Bu I wonder ,why did you see the movie? Was it just to comment to the post or was it something else? I saw your previous comment, saying that you saw the movie trailer and thought it was pointless or something to that nature.



For the most part, it actually was just to make a comment here. Thought that I should at least know what it's about before I open my mouth. And I was also kinda curious to see what all the fuss was about. From both the christian and the atheist communities.

In regards to non-christians enjoying this, well I guess it's possible. Like I said, there were some parts that I found genuinely enjoyable. Especially the music.
But the way it antagonizes all the non-christians to such a ridiculous degree while saintifying the christians, how it makes thin strawman arguments and presents it as compelling deal-breaking insight and its incredibly cliché and nonsensical moments... It's just too much in opposition to the good parts for me personally.
It just feels like the movie is pandering so hard to the christian audience.

And the ending. That ending made me really mad.
I didn't like Radison at all, but the ending that he got was just so incredibly insulting, I had to go out and take a walk before I could come back and finish the movie.
Which sucks, because it ruined the ending sequence (which I was really liking so far) that was so upbeat and happy and had such nice music.

Regarding seeing God in a new light... well I can't say for sure obviously, but I have a hunch that those people aren't really thinking very much through what they're hearing or that they have much understanding or knowledge in regards to science.
I don't have any fancy degrees or anything, but I personally found all of his argument to be thin and easily debunkable. And sometimes even downright dishonest.
Then again, that's just me...

I was thinking regarding the "seeing God in a new light" thing, though... I wasn't sure if that would be a correct term to use, as I didn't find the movie to be so much about God as a character as it was about the credibility regarding his existence.
Were there some people whose views on God himself were altered from this movie?
If so, I'd be interested in hearing it, if you remember any.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on... my thoughts.
As far as I understand, you really liked the movie, so I thank you for being polite in response to my harsh criticism, and I hope it didn't offend you too much


Nah, Im not offended at all. Actually after reading everything you wrote, I felt my relationship with God to be even stronger. But anyway, I just wanted people's view about the movie and what they thought. Thanks for taking the time watching the movie and commenting. I think your a smart person and would like to have more conversations with you, not just about God but other things as well. Oh I added you by the way, if thats cool with you.

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Leechan69

Nah, Im not offended at all. Actually after reading everything you wrote, I felt my relationship with God to be even stronger. But anyway, I just wanted people's view about the movie and what they thought. Thanks for taking the time watching the movie and commenting. I think your a smart person and would like to have more conversations with you, not just about God but other things as well. Oh I added you by the way, if thats cool with you.



Thanks.
And yeah, I know. I accepted the invite.
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I have no interest in what I suspect to be an evangelical movie. I begrudge no one for disliking it or liking it, so long as their reasons are fair and just aren't anti religion or pro religion for their own sakes. I would much rather see a movie about a Saint or Bible story. Mel Gibson was planning on doing a movie about the Maccabees and if he doesn't do it, someone should because that is a great biblical story. But if I were to go extra biblical Christian movie, why do we need these sorts of movies, God is not dead, little boy who apparently saw a vision of heaven or whatever, instead of the saints? There's a compelling movie to be made about men and women like, Athanasius, Mary of Egypt, Ignatius of Antioch, John Chrysostom and whomever else could be thought of. Mary of Egypt would be particularly relevant to our modern sex obsessed culture.
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Every single atheist was portrayed as an arrogant dick and the "bittersweet" scene where the professor converts moments before his death reminded me of when the horse is sent off to be butchered in Animal Farm. It was pretty horrifying to watch as a nonbeliever, to be honest.

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