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Posted 5/23/14

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Every single atheist was portrayed as an arrogant dick and the "bittersweet" scene where the professor converts moments before his death reminded me of when the horse is sent off to be butchered in Animal Farm. It was pretty horrifying to watch as a nonbeliever, to be honest.



I can see where your coming from. Alot of the atheist I've met in my life came across as rude or very defensive, but I know better, I know all atheist don't really act like that. But even though he died in the end, he actually received Christ, which I can say is the best decision he made. To be honest with you, it took me by surprised too, I knew something was going to happen to him but I wasn't expecting him to die. I didn't want him to die, but thats hows it was written. It could of been written differently. So I can see how an unbeliever can see this as cruel.

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Oh, so they actually said in the movie to text people that God's not dead?

That explains that extremely creepy text message I got out of nowhere from an old coworker. I served with him onboard my cutter for a while and a year after he left, we pulled into port and I got this insanely creepy text from him.

It really freaked me out. My mind raced to conclusions instantly since that is the kind of thing I imagined someone would say before they committed suicide or mass murder, especially since he's a bit of loon himself.

That's really fucking cheesy. The the movie played out as described, I'm a bit appalled at the stupidity. If those are the arguments he made, they are very half-assed and filled with holes. All of those arguments have been put down for years, and the stereotyping is so thick that it almost seems more like a movie to hate atheists more than a movie to reaffirm your own faith.
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Leechan69 wrote:


Dr-Paco wrote:

Every single atheist was portrayed as an arrogant dick and the "bittersweet" scene where the professor converts moments before his death reminded me of when the horse is sent off to be butchered in Animal Farm. It was pretty horrifying to watch as a nonbeliever, to be honest.



I can see where your coming from. Alot of the atheist I've met in my life came across as rude or very defensive, but I know better, I know all atheist don't really act like that. But even though he died in the end, he actually received Christ, which I can say is the best decision he made. To be honest with you, it took me by surprised too, I knew something was going to happen to him but I wasn't expecting him to die. I didn't want him to die, but thats hows it was written. It could of been written differently. So I can see how an unbeliever can see this as cruel.



"I can see where your coming from. Alot of the atheist I've met in my life came across as rude or very defensive"

.... You say that, then you say this?

"But even though he died in the end, he actually received Christ, which I can say is the best decision he made."

This?! How is this nothing if not rude? How is this not anything but literally saying not only is our perspective wrong, which is fine, but that in the face of our own death, our perspective is so wrong that you know the proper course of action and want it administered?

Are we supposed to cheer this treatment of us? Are we not supposed to defend our very humanity from such callous indifference and lack of empathy?

This is a really bad message to spread, it's actually kinda vile. If you were driving and hit me and I was going to die, if all you do is try to get me to convert on my death bed... if you aren't trying your damned hardest to call an ambulance, stop the bleeding, etc, etc, but instead "trying to save my eternal soul", I would hate you with every fibre of my being, every tiny part of me, I would curse your very existence and would probably want to murder you right up until the moment I actually do die.

Seriously, it's an INCREDIBLY callous, and ridiculously non-empathetic thing to say to anyone. If he had been a Hindu, would Christians rushing to the final moments of a Hindu, trying to make him convert, rather than provide medical aid, be any less vile?

If he had been a Muslim, or a Buddhist? Or do we only cheer when atheists convert on their death bed?

It's not cruel because of the god, it's cruel precisely because of those Christians, the type who feel justified, with their religious beliefs, to say "even though he died in the end, he actually received Christ, which I can say is the best decision he made."

"Well, too bad a Muslim/Jew/Atheist/Buddhist/ANYTHING NOT CHRISTIAN died, but at least they made the best decision and accepted jesus at the end".

If they wanted a movie to make Christians look ridiculously bad, they have succeeded. Saying it "seems" cruel misses the point. It IS cruel.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2013/11/the-atheist-philosophy-professor-strikes-back/

Also, for what it's worth, this is how an atheist philosophy professor actually argues, and his response to the movie.
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Posted 2/27/15
My grandma saw it. she told me that it was something that i had to watch
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I haven't seen it, and i have no interest after reading the extremely lengthy description of what happens.

Apparently apologetics is taking a step backwards....

Also, i don't think they get the true nuance of that quote from Neitzche... most notably in the behaviour of the philosophy prof. who should know it is talking about the growing atheistic problem and he's saying 'god is dead' (and we all killed him) as a way of saying that it's own own lack of morality and belief and upholding of the traditions that killed god.... and killed god metaphorically, not to say that Nietzche was really making a statement of the true nature of god, but of people's faith. he was concerned it would lead to nihilism at the time he stated it, meaning the statement "god is not dead' in context is the perfect name for the movie if you're trying to show that people still hold their faith as fundamentally true, but is ironic because the character of a philosophy teacher seems oblivious to the meaning of the quote.
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Posted 2/27/15 , edited 2/28/15
I refuse to watch any Christian movie put out. There's so much Christian cliches that I just can not get over.
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I couldn't even get through one episode of 7th heaven
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