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American animations or japanese anime
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kevz_210 wrote:

I usually prefer anime for one major reason: storytelling. American animation in general tends to be episodic in nature, and usually they are comedies: family guy, south park, regular show, etc. Anime tells to have a more linear story-line, in the sense that in most shows you can't really watch them out of order and everything builds up. Character development tends to be stronger, themes can be darker (FMA, Code Geass, Death Note, etc.) than most American shows. The only American animation I guess I can say I am interested in would be "Western Anime" like Avatar, and perhaps superhero shows where the west dominates all. Other than that I will take anime>Western Animation any day, but my reason has little to nothing to do with the animation itself but rather the wider array of themes that present themselves in anime.


This, the episodic nature and the self-contained plots completely ruin it for me. The humor tends to get really repetitive as well, and if I'm looking for some good satire there is always The Onion. American animation seems to be made for those with short attention spans. (or perhaps a lack of focus due to busy lives?)

I'm more of a fan of entertainment that is highly engaging... this also applies to video games. I want something that will challenge me and not something that becomes routine. I find it funny that there is a large part of the population that says video games are a waste of time. Those very same people then park themselves in front of the TV for hours until they sleep. The elitists are everywhere really, just ignore them.

[edit: also... dem phallus noses are way more prevalent on one side of the globe...]
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Used to like some American animation in the past, but they have grown to bore me.
Anime on the other hand has never gotten old for me.
So yeah, I'll stick to Anime.


SoldierSangria wrote:

And of course, I am really sick and tired of anime fans -or fans of Japanese culture- (aka, weebos) worshiping everything that comes from Japan like it is heaven sent perfection.

Grow up losers.


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Prefer japanese anime
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Both, but it just depends on what I'm in the mood for.
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Both? Japanese animation puts emphasis on some aspects more than others depending on the situation, which leads to them putting less effort in other areas due to budget.

For example: That one character in the background that looks like a low-res, crumpled up drawing by a five-year-old. Or the really awkward and jumpy movements and mouth-flapping. However, where they do put in effort, they go all out, and it leads to animation that leaves you with goose-bumps, or the art can look so beautiful that it takes your breath away even if nothing is happening.

Western animation is more about balancing it's resources and keeping consistency. Simpler styles, and more movement in characters to add emotion, whereas Japanese style normally just puts emotion into the face unless they are emphasizing a specific body part like a clenched fist. It keeps everything consistent so you are better immersed, but because of the balancing of the budget, some shows seem spread too thin. Plus, as of late with a bunch of idiots in power, there is a surplus of comedy focused shows and shows that drag out after their time has passed (although the same could be said for Japanese animations to an extent...)

Movies by bit-shot studios like Disney, Pixar, Dreamworks, are where Western animation really shines since they've had the most experience and were some of the first. I will definitely say that the West is way better at 3D animation than the East, especially if you look at where they've done CG in their shows... shudders. Movies by these companies put great amounts of time into ALL aspects, even adding little details that aren't necessary, but because they almost exclusively work with movies, their ability to tell a well drawn out story can vary, and cuts are occasionally made, like how the director of Frozen decided to reuse Anna's face for Elsa and the mother. Japanese animated movies usually are identical to a series they're based on, so there isn't much to their movies unless they were made by a good company and/or with a good director.

I'd say they are pretty even, so ultimately it depends on taste. If you want well animated Western series, try anything by Tit-Mouse, the guys who made Megas XLR, Motorcity, Black-Dynamite, and the Turbo animated series on Netflix (which admittedly is pretty decent even though I never saw the movie.) And the Tron: Uprising series (give it a shot, don't let the style discourage you too much.) as well as some more light-hearted shows like The Amazing World of Gumball that combines many styles, and does them all well, and the new Steven Universe (which is REALLy good.)

I don't feel the need to point out good Japanese animations since this is an anime site, but just to name some examples that make them great, there's Redline on Youtube for free, Cowboy Bebop which keeps consistency throughout, Space Dandy for style and music, Dead Leaves for it's very different style from most anime, and a few others I can't name off the top of my head.

Both are flawed, as both are pretty formulaic and repetitive, but both also break out of those at times to produce something really good.

oh, and after reading some comments, just as a future reminder, don't diss people for their tastes kay? You can prove a show is bad, but as I've learned, not every show within a genre, or in this case made within a country makes it inherently good or bad. Just as many flaws can be named about your taste, because nothing is perfect. I can think of countless reasons for why I should hate Western and Eastern shows, but I still like them both. Some people like something despite it having flaws, but don't make fun of them just because you can't enjoy something.

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All three.
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I've never heard anyone complain about this. Sounds horribly pretentious though.

I like both. I prefer American animations that have a Japanese influence and vice versa. You get the best of both worlds. :3
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I prefer anime, although the likes of South Park and Family Guy are good, maybe I just prefer the kiddie Japanese to Kiddie Western
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The last I heard, Japan was the only place that had actual formal schooling specifically for anime, so really you're comparing that against the average American's sense of initiative and discipline....... yeah, good luck with that.

I also know that Japan outsources much of its non-key frames to artists in Korea and China. Yeah, you heard me. Or did you think it was coincidence that so many animes look good until the fast action starts, then they look mysteriously shitty?

So, I have the same answer as anybody with sense does - if it's good, I'll watch it. But I'm aware there are reasons why America still imports over 90% of it's anime and manga.
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Recently I've seen more people hate on anime and say that american animations are better. They say that anime isn't even animations and just a bunch of moving frames and crap like that. They say that american animations like family guy and disney animations are better because they're actually animations. There's a bunch more to what they say and it's too long to fit in.

Just wondering if a thread like this exists. Do you like anime or american animations more? What are your thoughts on some of the things they say? Have you personally seen this happen in rants and etc?


And those people are morons!!
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SoldierSangria wrote:

They both have their good and bad sides. I prefer some from each style.

There are excellent American animations, and then there are not so good ones.

There are excellent Japanese animations, and then there are not so good ones.


This. I love both, each for different reasons. There are somethings I also absolutely hate from both. I'd rather not choose and watch both for the rest of my life.
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Both. To say one is better than the other is pointless. Both can be amazing and bad. Depends on who makes it.
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I think live action movies and TV shows (like HBO shows and AMC shows) are better than Japanese animation, but I think anime is definitely better than American animation. American animation has some highlights, though, like Pixar movies are very good.
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I couldn't agree more
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TheChowster wrote:

Recently I've seen more people hate on anime and say that american animations are better. They say that anime isn't even animations and just a bunch of moving frames and crap like that. They say that american animations like family guy and disney animations are better because they're actually animations. There's a bunch more to what they say and it's too long to fit in.

Just wondering if a thread like this exists. Do you like anime or american animations more? What are your thoughts on some of the things they say? Have you personally seen this happen in rants and etc?


I would point out that all animation, indeed all video is just a series of frames. If that's their criticism then no need to listen further cause they do not know what they are talking about.
I tend to watch more anime, a lot of U.S animation tends to be aimed at family entertainment and more often than not the happy ending/hero always wins troupe makes it very predictable. Both rely pretty heavily on desu ex machina to resolve plots, pretty shamelessly in fact.
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Both.
Both are good.
They have their own things going on. In general, I find american animation tends to be better at characters, emphasizing fluid movement and solid three-dimensionality over detailed drawings (I'm focusing on feature films).
But anime is unparalleled in the sheer amount of gorgeously accurate special effects they pump out. Special effects is not easy.
It is really, really not easy. Their methods of breaking model for emphasis is something else too. I'm going to use FLCL because that's the last thing I watched, but anime changes the design of the character completely for reactionary effect, and is arguably cartoonier than american animation in that, but it totally works!
Actually, my first point doesn't really even hold, because the quality of animation for both, or all productions, depends almost entirely on budget. Feature films will always, always have superior animation, and for both, TV animation tends to use a lot of static shots.

I think most of the argument of anime vs cartoons is because Japan loves anime more than America loves cartoons. They have far more studios and far more productions, and the big names get a lot more money (like Kyoani, P.A. Works and Pro I.G.) which are able regularly produces feature film quality TV anime. They can produce more high quality shows, than America does, giving them the impression that they have better animation. (Also they work their animators to death apparently). Given the same budget, there really isn't much difference in quality, only in aesthetics and technique. If America boosted their game and poured some money in animation, high quality animators would eventually start crawling out of the woodwork. Once a foundation is set, you only need to teach and within a decade or two, America would have just as many high quality 2D animation productions.
Comparing 2D, Japan is better than America in animation currently. But go to 3D, and America is unrivaled. The closest I've seen to really great 3D in Japan are the Precure endings which are lovingly animated and the later ones especially do a fantastic job of keeping the character fluid and alive, but they're like, what, a minute and a half long? It's also just dancing. They're expensive to animate! Vocaloid concerts! The highest budget one was fantastic in movement and modeling, but the facial expressions are stiff as hell. With 3D, America does what Japan does with 2D. Painstakingly studied and reproduced backgrounds and special effects.
Talk about visual effects, and America is really unrivaled ($$$). No one else has the money to compete. It's not really a matter of skill, but what the country decides to pay attention to and put money on.
It's like trying to compare oil paintings to wood block prints. Neither are unskilled, it's a matter of aesthetic.

I don't know where my argument's going. I'm just rambling now.


We're leaving out a lot of animation here by only talking about American and Japanese animation, but unfortunately I still don't know enough about French animation (which is mouth wateringly amazing omgggg) to pull it into discussion. I also want to throw in stop motion, but I don't know anything about that either. OTL

I do prefer anime though, but more because of imprinting than anything else. I grew up with it. I watched everything as a kid, but while I can't remember Space Jam at all, I can remember most of the major events in Yugioh despite being not all that into it. I like the flat, crisp looking designs (super flat?), I like the attention they pay to the depiction of fabric, I like how everyone's drawn to be beautiful instead of trying to convey that a character is obviously evil, or obviously the fairy godmother, or totally an alien, and I like fight scenes. Just like how I have a friend who is really into animal animation in particular, zoning in on movies like Bambi and the Fox and the Hound, I really like anime for no particular reason. It's just my cup of tea.
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