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Is it okay to make laws against sin?
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Posted 5/20/14
it happens anyways.
gay marriage laws exist cus its 'sinful'
despite the fact that more people die from alcohlol OD than marajuana, its still illegal most everwhere..

and why is me having sex with a 16 yo okay in nevada but not in arizona?

why can i carry a gun in phoenix but not in NYC?

the law is all over the place like a misshapen patchwork quilt.
in the end, laws are made by old people who live in their own little worlds and not on ours.

i got to shut up now, this i getting me pissed..
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Many of the laws don't run state to state, but I don't think you should be able to have sex with a sixteen year-old anywhere

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Posted 5/20/14 , edited 5/20/14
neither do I, and thats my point.

the entire legal system in USA is a mess.
like, nuchku being illegal in arizona.
ITS A FRIGGEN TRAINING WEAPON!
A GOD DAM BAT DOES MORE DAMAGE.

my point is laws esxist cus some one thinks it was a good idea, with no basis in reality.
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Posted 5/20/14
They do it more if it's a sin. Just like the poor Bible belt with a ton of abortions.
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I agree manifold amount of times with you.... I don't think the blame isn't the system it's the politicians who basically sell their seats for major companies. Trust me most of our government isn't filled with people who care for us it's just filled with people are wearing a businesses name on their foreheads. What ever makes them money and keeps them in power. It's on both sides conservative and liberal. LOBBYIST LOBBYISTS EVERYWHERE. I love the US but I hate the people who say they represent me.
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It's not okay to make laws against sin. Think of it like this in America The supposedly free country bans ridiculous things because of notions and impresssions of society. I feel that nothing should be banned entirely, everything you do is your choice and nothing more. If you want drugs and alcohol go ahead help yourself, but others shouldn't be able to ban or prohibit what you do in any sense. I think it's ridiculous that society always thinks there's a solid right and wrong. When in actuality it's all about how you look at things and what viewpoint you're seeing it in.

"Nothing is ever set, do what you want, but do it under your own will and choice"
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No. Why? Contextualism. While there are some cases where Kant Deontology applies (e.g. rape), labeling a bunch of actions as sinful and prohibiting them is incredibly short sighted.
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^^^ intrestingly enough, there is a country where its ilegal to solicit a prostitute. its only legal is SHE solicits you.
funny way to solve the pimp problem.
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Posted 5/20/14

FlyinDumpling wrote:

This topic is going nowhere

Officer: "have you sinned today?"
Sinner: "Why no officer"
Officer: "Lier"
Sinner: "I swear I am not"
Officer: "I saw that you didn't offer that old lady your seat, and you lied twice. Three counts of sin. You're under arrested"


Agre I think if you make sinning a law. Everyone would go to jail at some points.
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The question is, as I have read it, whether or not we should regulate behavior based on secular codes of morality. This is one of those questions whose answer is very heavily dependent on what specifically is to be examined, but a good starting point is asking whether there is a compelling state interest in the regulation to be examined.

For example, the state has a compelling interest in things such as preventing discriminatory business practices by public accommodations or in imposing mandatory vaccination schema as a means to control preventable diseases, and either provision could be backed with sound secular moral reasoning. Meanwhile, there is no compelling state interest in regulating what clothing and/or hairstyles the general public may or may not wear, so selling the argument that such a regulation ought to exist becomes that much harder even if you try to back it with secular moral reasoning.
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vash_loveandpeace wrote:

As a Christian, I ask myself this a lot. I don't like politics at all (mostly politicians) For example I believe homosexuality is a sin (I'll define it as breaking God's law) but I don't know how people argue that homosexual marriage is against the constitution. While I don't agree with it, I can't say it should be illegal because I believe it's wrong. Can I infringe the rights of someone when I think something is wrong when I can't argue against the idea using the grand law of the country, that law being the constitution. Back to my point, it's hard me to decide but if we're talking lawfully, I can't say that homosexual marriage is against the constitution. I will state again I don't think homosexuality is right. I'm not looking to argue with what I believe but I'm just stating what I think about law. I just take issue when people say I can't say what I believe because of what most people believe. So I just ask that if gay marriage is made legal just don't tell me I have to go against what I believe because it's made legal. What I mean by that is if I'm a pastor (I'm not) don't threaten to sew me because I'm not going to against what I believe to make you happy. I'm not a homophobic, I love gay people and would become friends with anyone who is gay. I just want my rights to believe what I believe to be protected.

I hope I made sense, I'm very bad with putting my thought together like this.
I admire your consistency. There aren't many who can rationally analyze their own beliefs in such a way. While I don't share your beliefs in homosexuality being a sin, I do respect your right to not to be forced into say marrying a gay couple in your church(Freedom of Religion should respect both sides of that issue in my opinion). I respect it even more so because you aren't trying to dictate that another institution, be it religious or secular, be forced to abide by those same religious beliefs. Kudos to you.

Posted 5/20/14
As long as you don't hurt another living being (humans, animals) I really don't see a problem with anything else. Everybody lies, everybody masturbates or have dark thoughts...we are all human, we are all sinners and in the end we're all going to the same place so just enjoy life without harming others and mind your own damn business.
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I don't think we need to throw everybody in jail just yet.
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Thank you kind sir
Posted 5/20/14
You cannot contend with the free will of man. Rules and restrictions, laws and codes of conduct: these are the very things that create crime and sin.

Just think of it this way: If you were to choke an animal, it's first instinct would be to struggle. The tighter you make your grasp, the harder it will struggle to fight you off until ultimately it dies due to lack of air or by snapping its own neck from the force of its struggle.
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