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Who was the best leader in all of history?
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Best leader in History....I can't really say that I have a best but I can give at least two that are great, they may not be the greatest because of the things they've done but from a leadership point of view they were amazing leaders.

1) I think that one of greatest has to be Martin Luther. He was the climax of the Reformation which begun at least over a hundred years before him with William Tyndale (the man who translated a lot of the Latin Vulgate in (old)English). He stuck to what he believed to be true even at the Diet of Worms where he was put to trial for heresy but even though threatened with death he stood his ground and fought for the truth. What he did lead to a complete change in thinking in more then just the Christian church but also in many other areas people began searching for what was really true. I must admit--sadly, in his latter years he was anti-Semitic he believed that jews were evil because they crucified Christ. Proving that even great leaders are mere men

2) Adolf Hitler. Now I know this may dawn some thoughts of confusion but please hear me out (or read me out, whichever you prefer) Hitler was by all means a wretched piece of scum. What he did to countless amount of lives (6 million Jews and millions of handicapped, gypsies, blacks...and etc.) He experimented on many others and forced people to work until they died. In the view of leadership, Hitler was a amazing leader. Due to the Great War, Germany was left basically with money, leadership, and national pride. The League of Nations, forced Germany to pay for the war, also halted all military buildup. There were many parties in Germany at that time trying to gain control of the government. Hitler was a man trying to rise up to become a leader but was arrested in the 20's, this is where Hitlet wrote Mein Kamph. (in observance of time) Hitler rose to power with the Nazi party. He led men and women to believe what he believed, Hitler gave amazing speeches(the content was ill and sick but nonetheless amazing speeches) He created jobs, he made Germany prosperous again. He led is people to what he believed Germany could be but in the end lost. He is a great leader because of the fact he made Germany great again (this is of course would have been Hitler's opinion) He got what he wanted because of how he led, sadly many lives are lost at his great leadership. Hitler was a great leader but a horrible man.

Sorry about going through such lengths but I love History a lot


It's not completely far-fetched to believe that Hitler was a great leader. Let's put aside all the terrible, inhumane things he did (which are a lot), and look at him as a leader. He basically brought Germany out of an economic tumble, made them one of the economic powerhouses in Europe, and created a faithfully loyal army dedicated to his whims...all coming from nothing to build on, considering they had to pay reparations for WW1. There was a reason he became so powerful in the first place, because he was a great leader which led the German people to believe in him and his policies (because he turned their economic recession completely around).

Now given, he's a terrible person who did countless inhumane things to millions of people. Being a great leader does not equate to doing great things in history though, as Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin have both shown.


There will always be flaws with any and every leader in history. I suppose the best leader in my personal opinion would be Jesse James. Of course this is miniscule compared to world leaders, but Jesse was one of the most influential people in the Wild West. He was able to flirt with his victims when he robbed them. He was a very charismatic individual. I just think being able to round up a bunch of guys who follow you to the death is what being a great leader means, and I have a fondness for active leaders who lead their groups instead of issuing orders. Of course he was unfortunately betrayed, but I still think he was one of the best leaders in history. This is just my personal bias of course.
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Alexander The Great. In 13 years he conquered the known world and then some. He crushed the Persian empire and solidified the unity of Greece all without any modern technology. He led his armies from the front instead of ordering them around like most leaders and spread Greek culture across the globe. He never lost a battle and its is said Julius Caesar wept in front of a statue of Alexander the Great, realizing that where Alexander had conquered most of the known world at thirty, he had accomplished comparatively little. There are other great leaders out there, but Alexander is pretty tough to beat.


Alexander the Great!!! He was an amazing military tactician, and an amazing leader. He earned his title for sure!
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You sir are brilliant, I would not have expected Jesse James to appear on this list but he was a fantastic leader in his own respect. A man feared but also respected

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Alexander The Great. In 13 years he conquered the known world and then some. He crushed the Persian empire and solidified the unity of Greece all without any modern technology. He led his armies from the front instead of ordering them around like most leaders and spread Greek culture across the globe. He never lost a battle and its is said Julius Caesar wept in front of a statue of Alexander the Great, realizing that where Alexander had conquered most of the known world at thirty, he had accomplished comparatively little. There are other great leaders out there, but Alexander is pretty tough to beat.


One of the very first, truly, great leaders of the world. I don't think anyone could possible argue that.
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As far as US presidents go, I have to go with Abraham Lincoln. He led a nation through its bloodiest war and won, was ready to forgive the south and reintegrate them back into the union with, relatively speaking, a much lesser fervor to make them pay for the war than congress was prepared for. And of course, his leadership led to, and/or paved the way for, the abolition of slavery and the passing of 14 and 15 amendments.
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The guy that ate the first mushroom and lived and let's not forget the guy that ate the first raw oyster with hot sauce.
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You flatter me lol. I believe the Wild West was where leaders shined, and followers followed (or died). So picking James was the most logical, and best choice. A case can be said with any gang leader in the Wild West, such as Butch Cassidy, Sam Bass, The Sundance Kid, etc etc. But James had a very peculiar, likeable personality (from what was said) and was a very charismatic, smooth individual.
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Lol but I really like the fact you thought of that man and that period. I think also we can take account the mobster of the prohibition era. Al Capone, Bonnie and Clyde and so on
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Lincoln will always be my favorite president
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id have to say Adolf Hitler.
it takes a great leader to make and entier country think ur great when ur a monster. and he did almost take over euro.
im going to go vomit now.
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As far as US leaders, I'll go with Teddy Roosevelt. I also really like Winston Churchill. Neither were perfect by any means, but You asked Me the question and I answered it.


I loved learning about Teddy Roosevelt! He seemed like such an eccentric, fun, and happy-go-lucky person. He deeply cared about wildlife (besides those exotic animal hunts he went on ) and was always full of energy. A pretty good president.




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I'm probably going to get hate for this... But, I feel like one of the greatest leaders, in my opinion, is Adolf Hitler.

He made so many people believe in him, just with the power of speech and persuasion. So many people began to follow his ideals, feeling like they made sense; The idea of an "Aryan" race. A single human being held this power, and created Nazism. He and his army killed millions of people, with this power. I'm not saying everyone agreed with him living in Germany at this time, but he did gain a lot of support and agreement. He was attempting genocide, and this all started from mere speech.

I'm not saying that was a good thing; not at all. The Holocaust and its ideas make me physically ill. But he was a great and powerful leader, to have done something like that.

*Edit: I'm glad I'm not the only one who shares this opinion!


Agreed. Say what you want about Hitler's personal views (He was a POS definitely), but as a leader he was definitely one of the best. He could've done good and greatness with the country and Germany but he was just plainly a lunatic.

My answer: George Washington. Creating a nation and then leading it is no easy task; add in just finishing up a revolution and everything is in disarray after said revolution. Also, he was a VERY wise man. He's the one that warned against political parties (Democrat, Republican, etc.) and said they would do nothing but divide a nation and lead to conflict. How right he was and how ignorant America is today for what is currently happening in the government.

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Lincoln will always be my favorite president


While an inspirational man and a great President, I think I read somewhere that he was a gosh awful war strategist or whatever you want to call him. He kept firing/hiring generals throughout the war. The South nearly won the entire thing.
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Oh trust me, He was not a military strategist but he knew what he was fighting for, and he knew that the country must be unified again!
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Abraham Lincoln. Because Abraham Lincoln.

Also Franklin Delano Roosevelt, George Washington, Martin Luther King, Winston Churchill, Gandhi...

Points also to everyone's favorite classy Nazi Erwin Rommel and also Claus von Stauffenberg who was one of the central figures who tried to kill Hitler.

Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler, Stalin, Peter the Great for seriously shaping history.

Everyone has their faults and not-so-bright-spots, but you cannot deny; they did and said amazing things and continue to awe and inspire today.

Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine also get my vote.
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This thread is really underestimating the extent of resistance to the NSDAP, Nazism, and Adolf Hitler personally even within the Wehrmacht. The 20 July plot is memorable for a reason, people. And it's not just because Hitler almost died, nor is it just because the NSDAP government was about to have a coup on its hands. It's the who and why behind the whole thing which is especially noteworthy: prominent Wehrmacht officials who had been working against the Hitler government nearly from its inception.
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