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Post Reply The Scientific Theory of Evolution has no holes, so why are there still theists?
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Posted 5/22/14 , edited 5/22/14

staphen wrote:

Because, at the end of the day, very few people have actually benefited from their belief in evolution. I personally find about as much use believing in evolution as I do believing in some form of theism.


I wouldn't say very few, because as with many beliefs, it can answer their questions that works with their logic and how much knowledge they can take. If it sounds logical to them, they will take, it's just when people are too narrow minded when you provide new evidence when it turns to a bad situation.

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well intrestingly enough, the bible simply says creation happened, it never says how, hence my question of why must we belive in evolution or creation. really belive in a creator is a why , and evolution is a how, not really the same.
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my question is why does everyone assume its one or the other? why must you belive in science and evolution OR in a creator?

hey OP, i got a question, i dont really keep up on eveolution, so fill me in. how was the jump made to single cell from inorganic?


Carbon. Humans and almost all life on the planet are carbon based organisms because of it making 18% of our body and having the ability to attach itself to multiple kinds of elements. With it's ability, it can make molecules that can also combine and form bigger and bigger molecules that get's so complex and have different reactions to other elements. Wait for many, many years and you get more organic like structures; waits some more and get organic DNA or other organic solutions that mix together to become cell like.

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I don't expect them to write anything about science at all... but they did include scientific information in it, like saying the Earth was made before the Sun was made.

Getting the order of things correctly isn't rocket science.

So that's a major flaw on their part, and if such a flaw exists, how can we know if other parts of the bible is accurate/true at all?




So going with the idea that the bible is inspired word, even your gripe could have a good explanation. What was written in that book of the bible was for audiences in ancient times, and I believe in that part of the world, up until the Renaissance times, people adamantly believed that the Earth was primary and the center of the cosmos. So suppose that God, in inspiring these writings, wasn't as concerned with the exact scientific principles being presented to people but rather telling an origin story of the cosmos that could be widely accepted and not face much rejection. The attitude was that humanity is, 'of course', the center piece of the physical realm, so why not make Earth the center piece of the cosmos? I believe most, and possibly all, of these cultures that adopted Christianity in the early days even believed that the sun was smaller than Earth and that the sun revolved around the Earth.

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Posted 5/22/14
I knew religion was going to be brought into this.... Why does it matter what you believe in? Evolution is a fact. Species evolve over time. Evolution doesn't disprove religion because religion could never be considered a viable theory in the first place. It is neither testable or potentially falsifiable. It's a ridiculous argument to be had in the first place.
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edge1143 wrote:

Just cause people believe in God doesn't mean they are all ignorant to science like evolution. It seems this thread will just be a whole atheist circle jerk


Yep, you hit the nail right on the head. I tried reading through this topic and got through about six posts and realized it's useless to waste my vision on this thread. I have no respect for any athiest who labels people's beliefs as 'magic' or talking as if someone is a complete idiot for believing in a deity. On the flip side of the same coin, I have no respect for anyone of religious belief bashing athiests with the slogan: "How can you just believe a big bang caused all this?!?!?! That's stoopid!" Have some class people. You don't know how/why someone's life journey led them to their belief or non belief in religion.
Posted 5/22/14
Religion shapeshifts a lot as science teaches it. Have you seen the recent Noah? It has adapted quite a lot, except they didn't show dinosaurs so whoever wrote it must be a religious old timer.
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Because people still think that evolution means apes turning into human beings.
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your comments are so refreshing compared to these atheists
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nemoskull wrote:

well intrestingly enough, the bible simply says creation happened, it never says how, hence my question of why must we belive in evolution or creation. really belive in a creator is a why , and evolution is a how, not really the same.


Because people will believe what they can make sense or fits around their logic. Many other religions had their take of world creation that showed how it was created and people believe that.

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To piggyback on what others are saying, understanding of evolution and science does not have to be at odds with faith or belief in God. There are plenty of serious scientists who also are practicing Christians/Jews/Muslims/etc. The question posed by this thread shows as much misunderstanding as creationists who think the earth is 6,000 years old and dinosaurs never existed.
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To piggyback on what others are saying, understanding of evolution and science does not have to be at odds with faith or belief in God. There are plenty of serious scientists who also are practicing Christians/Jews/Muslims/etc. The question posed by this thread shows as much misunderstanding as creationists who think the earth is 6,000 years old and dinosaurs never existed.


But dinosaurs never did exist! The devil put them here to test our faith!
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All people feel the need to believe in something bigger than themselves. Whether it is religion, science, government, or enviromentalism. Personally, I am Christian who spent over a decade as an atheist. To the person who started this thread, I sensed a lot of anger in you. I have found more happiness and peace by consciously surrendering my problems and worries to God than I ever did being an angry atheist. Good and evil without a doubt exist, and believing in nothing but humanity will always disappoint you. No matter how hard you struggle, there are very few things in life that you can control. I believe that there is more to this universe than the human mind, no matter how arrogant, will ever be able to perceive or comprehend.
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In the past if you spoke out against god or religion they burnt you as a witch . People who where free thinkers got killed or put in prison Galillao was one because his belief made the church look bad and the church is always right that's how you hold on to power . Napolion said religion was invented to keep the poor from killing the rich and he probably was right ! Religion is one of the biggest money making racket around and those in charge want to stay in charge . So evolution kind of kicks them out of power so think of what happens if every one stops believing , no religion no reason for holy wars might be a good reason for peace ?
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Posted 5/23/14
In a nutshell, if micro evolution is observed in our lives, obviously micro evolution occurs.
Then macro evolution has to occur, because all macro evolution is, is micro evolution over
a very, very long period of time.....
The opponents of this are various religious factors, and I respect that for I
know that there is a higher power...

(HomoSapien, the Man Wise Wise .....
a work of art, a wondrous Creation..)



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