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Is there such thing as too little conflict?
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Posted 5/22/14
I ask this because it's honestly a paradox in my opinion: Humans continue to grow and evolve to greater heights to avoid conflict and to prevent needless loss, but conflict in itself is a large part of human nature and is the entire purpose behind us becoming more advanced as a society.

The thing is, we will never be able to rid the world of conflict, but is it a bad thing that we fight? Our greatest ideas and invention have come because of warfare (yes, even things that are not even used for purely warfare, the helmet being one of them, for example) and some of our greatest lessons (from politics to religion to even conventional everyday practices) have evolved because of revolutions, of protests, of wars and of human conflict. Even future technologies can be influenced from conflict, such as the atomic bomb, a horrific weapon that, if utilized correctly, can also provide a nuclear energy method capable of ending pollution entirely and solving the energy crisis.

Every story in existence, anything that is a narrative, has some form of conflict, and that is why humans find stories entertaining, but also find them to be a source of reflection on our own human nature and of the societies we have built. Now this doesn't change the fact that conflict is inherently bad and humans seek to prevent conflict, but do we really? Do we need conflict in order to continue growing, even if that growth is to stop conflict? Would too little conflict stunt our growth as a species or would it be the mark of enlightenment in our society, even if we must wait thousands of years to achieve this?

It is a paradox to me, and so I ask you this: what do you think? Can there be too little conflict?
Posted 5/22/14
We evolve to avoid conflict?

War isn't bad as long as I don't die because of it.
Posted 5/22/14
I think... Conflict is conflict. It could be small, but a boiling point to something bigger.
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Posted 5/22/14

Riesel wrote:

We evolve to avoid conflict?

War isn't bad as long as I don't die because of it.


Pretty good answer right here.
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Posted 5/22/14 , edited 5/22/14

Nightblade370 wrote:

I ask this because it's honestly a paradox in my opinion: Humans continue to grow and evolve to greater heights to avoid conflict and to prevent needless loss, but conflict in itself is a large part of human nature and is the entire purpose behind us becoming more advanced as a society.

The thing is, we will never be able to rid the world of conflict, but is it a bad thing that we fight? Our greatest ideas and invention have come because of warfare (yes, even things that are not even used for purely warfare, the helmet being one of them, for example) and some of our greatest lessons (from politics to religion to even conventional everyday practices) have evolved because of revolutions, of protests, of wars and of human conflict. Even future technologies can be influenced from conflict, such as the atomic bomb, a horrific weapon that, if utilized correctly, can also provide a nuclear energy method capable of ending pollution entirely and solving the energy crisis.

Every story in existence, anything that is a narrative, has some form of conflict, and that is why humans find stories entertaining, but also find them to be a source of reflection on our own human nature and of the societies we have built. Now this doesn't change the fact that conflict is inherently bad and humans seek to prevent conflict, but do we really? Do we need conflict in order to continue growing, even if that growth is to stop conflict? Would too little conflict stunt our growth as a species or would it be the mark of enlightenment in our society, even if we must wait thousands of years to achieve this?

It is a paradox to me, and so I ask you this: what do you think? Can there be too little conflict?


I think we've gone well past the point where the consequences of warfare are even partially compensated for by technological and political advances. The whole idea that war generates progress more than peace is taken for granted far too often when it's actually a very tenuous argument to make in the first place.

All this aside, there are many types of conflict and some of them will never disappear, so don't panic
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Posted 5/22/14
There is no paradox. Conflict is a part of our nature. Without it, we either become listless and complacent or bottle it up then go berserk.

There is no paradox, there are merely too many fools who do not understand this. Fools with no real-world wisdom insist that conflict is bad because it is dangerous and uncomfortable. They are operating on the selfish and short-sighted notion that danger and discomfort are to be avoided. It is a false premise. The philosophy of "no pain, no gain" is more accurate in reality.

Besides, it is wholly foolish to think conflict even could be avoided. So long as even ONE human lives, there will be conflict in this world. Ever stub your toe and curse at yourself? Even one person alone cannot avoid conflict.

That is not to say that man should be uncivil towards one another, but conflict in general is not, by itself, a bad thing.
Posted 5/22/14
Technology evolves quickly but only on what the government spends money researching.. which usually has something to do with war or space industry

Have humans really evolved.. I somehow doubt it.. our culture keeps changing.. I somehow dont think that this overly PC culture is very productive tho.. way to easy to live thru your life without ever trying beyond the minimum.. and it effects our work places and military..

Conflict and competition drive the human race to new heights, we excel at that..
Posted 5/22/14
If you want peace, prepare for war.
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As kmfdm said (and perhaps someone else they stole it from):
"We used to hate people
Now we just make fun of them
It's more effective that way"

Things might look nice and peaceful compared to how they were centuries ago. In many ways they are; life is certainly safer and less brutal, in general. Still, it seems like we see more odd behavior than we used too, probably because people find it difficult to manage their feelings or needs in this rather unnatural and perhaps constricting modern society.

As an example of something odd related to the lack of violent conflict, I seem to recall seeing statistics that showed that countries with lower amounts of violence have higher levels of suicides, for instance; look at those rates for Japan. Of course, not every country tracks such statistics the same way, so that may not really be accurate.

Another thing I seem to recall was a study as to why women might e.g. find ways to exclude or isolate other women, e.g. through teasing or rumors. The conclusion was that it served a similar purpose as why men sometimes fight - to eliminate competition.
In this relatively non-violent society we live in, is this type of behavior on the rise amongst both sexes?
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Posted 5/22/14 , edited 5/22/14
There could be, but I think it's theoretically impossible for us to ever come to that point as a species. People will always have something to bitch at each other about.
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cordellium wrote:
There could be, but I think it's theoretically impossible for us to ever come to that point as a species. People will always have something to bitch at each other about.

Not if they are all dead.
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Posted 6/14/14
If there's no competition, the market will stagnate and product quality will drop significantly.

To eliminate conflict is to eliminate free will.
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Posted 6/15/14 , edited 6/15/14
I don't think that there can be a such a thing as too little conflict. We humans will always have some form of conflict in mind and it will always happen, but I believe that in this day of age that we can progress far more in peace than at war because it allows for research to be expanded upon without the worry of it being lost in an instant. This even offers better choices and different forms of innovation to advance, things that normally wouldn't have if there was a major war going on.
Posted 6/16/14
it's not conflict that advances society.

it's individuality and freedom of expression.
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Posted 6/16/14
I don't like conflict. I try to avoid it like the plague, but like the plague that it is, it follows me around. Blasted conflict!
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