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Are all the men to blame for?
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Posted 5/28/14 , edited 8/24/14
Well, I've read some Yuri molestation manga(was a very sweet vanilla), and I've been sexually harassed by a girl in the past, so can't say men are the only ones, but they are still in the majority.


Raimu4 wrote:

I dont even go outside how the fuck am i supposed to sexual harass women


I never go outside AND am only into 2D girls. No girl's in danger when they're around me.
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I think over-generalization is a greater evil than any sexual harassment. Honestly, there are bad people out there of either gender, women are to blame for many things as well. Bad things happen to everyone, despite gender. Making the behaviors of a few assholes the reason to hate and blame half the population is a far greater crime than any form of sexual harassment.



As for your complaint about SAO, I felt it was necessary for the story. It did more to characterize that bastard than anything, and is what gave Kirito the incentive to act. Hardcore acts like rape simply make the story more interesting if necessary. Don't try to turn it into a gender thing and say that I don't have a problem with it because it was a woman getting raped, I believe when Kasuga (a man) was raped in Aku no Hana that it was just as vital to story and characterization, and just as valid. I also find it odd that you have more of a problem with rape than, the far more serious, death. How can you have a greater issue with something that has the possibility of being dealt with and getting better than something that can't be repaired and will never get better?
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I've honestly seen more women sexually harass men.
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Sometimes I wonder why men are so disgusting but hey men are not the only ones to blame, I've been sexually harassed by quite of few girls too in the past so
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Sexual harassment is bad. Blaming an entire gender for the poor actions of a few is bad.

We need to teach our next generation to treat others with respect. Frankly, I think we need to teach our sons some old fashioned chivalry to treat ladies with respect.
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Let's get controversial


Do you really mean that?

Just checking, because most of what you said seemed pretty mainstream to me... but I am going to risk doing just that: being controversial.


Dropplet wrote: So on Facebook I have been seeing statuses by feminist claiming that all the male species are dangerous. And that men get away with sexual harassment to much.


Let us begin with a pretty simple fact: there is the human race and human species. Anything else someone claims is a myth, a modern day fairy tale. Men and women are the same "species"; claiming anything is dehumanizing to one or both. Yes, I have found myself growing more and more annoyed with the focus on "race" as well: there are many different ethnic groups but we are all human, and the so called "races" are just combinations of cultures and distinguishing features that ended up being bundled together; people can be more similar to those outside of their "race" than those within it, reminding us it is a pretty poor qualifier.

This was turning into a "wall of text", so I'll try to keep it brief even though the lack of additional context can cause my words to be misunderstood. I invite everyone to engage in a thought experiment. Re-read the account given of what happened to the girl, and start altering details and see if it still reads relatively true. I did. I remember girls harassing other girls, boys harassing other boys, and (though less common) girls harassing boys in a similar manner. It was only the latter half (the request for a hug and later) that got to extremes... and if we are allowed to substitute in other behaviors, again it goes back to memories; a group of boys taunting another group of boys, offering a handshake seemingly as an apology and then using it for an act of violence (putting the guy into an arm lock) instead of copping a feel.

In short, we've got a complicated story being forced into a narrow narrative. This may shock some of you, but not only am I not God, I know that. I realize that while I know some facts and can make an educated guess about others, I don't know everything. We've got the story from her position, and it makes it easy enough to insert myself into it... and if we tweak some facts we get some of my memories, and not a hypothetical thought experiment. Put yourself into the position of the guys (and again, adjust details as necessary), and maybe they were creeps or maybe they were just goofing off at first and then confused when their could-be-flirting behavior seemed to have been rewarded, even if at the same time you find their actions throughout the whole thing inappropriate (as I do). Some see school as a place to find a date... and if this had been a scene in a club (besides being abnormally juvenile with the laser pointers), both parties would probably be spending a night in jail. "He grabbed my butt!" "...after you decided to hug this stranger that had just been - by your own standards - sexually harassing you." "She attacked me!" "...after you grabbed her butt under her dress! If you were confused by her actions, then you should have played it safe!"

Yes, that is the short version. As for the direct question asked, we live in a 'sex toxic' culture and people stupidly like to ignore reality; this is before factoring into power players that some groups have been making for decades. Men and women are ultimately equals, but that doesn't mean we are identical; pretending we are just makes it even easier for these kinds of situations to occur.
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OP you can't keep living your life in fear over those things. You gotta stand up live life your life like you've always had. What were you doing before you heard about all this "Almost rape" nonsense?

The reasoning feminists think "almost rape" fear is valid is because all men look the same to them. Not all men they say, but YES it's ALL men because we all have phalis'. This is just as disgusting as rejecting homosexuals out of latent fears.

Do you think we should fear homosexuals in the military now that the Don't ask Don't tell rule is broken? I mean how would our military function if everyone broke down in fear of getting almost raped every night? Do you think it's humane to constantly fear and view people that way?



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My entire high school years I've had rude comments thrown at me by female teachers for wearing low cut shirts or tank tops because I wasn't as flat as the rest of the girls in my class. Not once has a male from my class, or rather of school personnel once give me nasty looks or mention anything about me "showing off my breasts". I'm a 32D that's 115 pounds. I'm sorry I'm not going to wear turtle necks outside in 80 degree weather. I think I have as much of a right to wear a tank top to school as the boy sitting next to me in class without being given derogatory comments.
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Posted 5/28/14
It's all money's fault.
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Judging a whole gender for the actions of some can never be right.
Sexual harassment can never be right but can you really only blame the guys for it?
After all you do not blame the bull if he pierces the bullfighter after being let on do you?
There are a lot of sorry desperate people out there and a lot of people just growing up not knowing what to do with the new urges that suddenly appeared.
By the explanation in the original post it seemed that the woman was dressed rather provocative (maybe she was trying to get the attention of someone special?)Well she did get attention but not from the one/s she wanted and flipped.
I do not think the guys behavior was appropriate but from what i read it seemed that she was the only one being targeted by the group since i do not believe that she is the only woman in the school it really might have had something to do with her way of dressing.
Maybe you could even say that its sexual harassment to dress skimpy....
Sexual harassment is never okay but you as a woman can lower the risk by just dressing appropriately.
Posted 5/28/14 , edited 5/28/14
I hate being harassed with eyes, so shameful
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This problem will never end because we don't understand each other.

So, I see this problem as meaningless because right now people out there probably doing sexual harassment right now. While I'm at home writing this topic and playing games. I don't really have the will to do any sort of sexual harassment because I find it really dumb. Most people just have a high influence from their friends that only talks about sex, porn, and many things. Most people get their ideas from media as well.

I don't understand why does this always happen because it is the male's mind treat female as sex object and female thinks all male's mind are the same. This kind of problem I don't understand at all. I'm male and I always never thought of female as sex object at all. I think of them as a human. Maybe I was raised by my mom and she's a female and I respect her because she treat me with care and respect. So, I would like to do the same for anyone that do the same as my mom. Personally, I don't really understand what is going on because I'm just really confused and this "feminism" I don't understand how its going to work anyways.
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fml i am so sick of seeing crap like this post! like everything on earth there are good and bad people! making generalised statements like this will only create resentment
Posted 5/28/14 , edited 5/28/14
All men?!

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Sadly, I've seen this happen more often than men sexually harassing women.


Dropplet wrote:

I think where we need to start is by changing the media. Sexual harassment is not every girls fantasy. Not every girl wants to be pushed up against a wall by some stranger or someone they no but don't like... I know this. It's happened to me and I hated every second of it. It happens all the time in anime which I think it's wrong. Which is part of the reason I didn't like SAO during the last couple episodes... it made me cry because as a female it was watching someone get almost raped.


Blaming the media here is like when people tried to blame Marilyn Manson for the Columbine shootings.. It just doesn't make sense. People should be held accountable for their own actions unless it's proven that they are mentally ill or suffer from conditions that make them unable to distinguish between right and wrong. Now some people are just messed up and vile, but NOT everyone is like that. To generalize an entire gender because of the actions of a few is ignorant at best. Seeing the gif I posted above, should we now generalize women as abusive, sex-hungry whores too?

P.S. In a crowded cafeteria at lunch time, I can't quite believe that no one paid attention to what was going on or that no one did anything to keep the incident from escalating. It' almost as if the girl and the boys were the only people there. That, to me, seems very unusual.
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It's not all men. Saying all men are inherently controlled by their desires and would take the opportunity to harass a woman is along the same lines of saying that all women are inherently controlled by their desires and welcome the opportunity to be harassed.

Both are incorrect blanket statements. People always want to shift blame onto an entire group instead of blaming the ones to did the actual act of harassment be they male or female.

But in reply to the first post, it's never a good idea to give your harasser a hug, be you male or female, especially if the culprits are in a group, no matter if you're in a public place or not. I'd confront them, but keep a safe distance of 3+ feet away. People are crazy. They attack others, steal, shoot and kill in broad daylight.
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