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Are all the men to blame for?
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I don't think there is anything wrong with men or women.. it all comes down to the individual and the level that they are on .. if they've been brainwashed by society and are sticking to gender roles or stereotypes, that is their own personal issue.
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yes blame all the men

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severticas wrote:

impossible to blame parents and i don't think they are to blame, at a certain age you mentally disassociate yourself to your then primary influence and replace them with new influences. i think being in groups creates this kind of behavior as those in groups are together in their cohesive assault and will not necessarily feel individually responsible. once something is shared, it will dilute the moral implication.


I agree that responsibility is elusive when there are more participants in a given action, but blaming groups is counter-intuitive. Although people shed responsibility when they are in a group, a group can create an environment where people can share ideas. This sharing of ideas is how people can be taught the value of equality. Therefore, the idea of the group should not be blamed.
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Looks like the feminazis are invading crunchyroll even… Is it really that hard to see that Elliot Rodgers was fucked up in the head and that's why he did what he did and not because he was male? FFS people.
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yes blame all the men





Ah, I couldn't resist. I saw that gif and thought to myself....

'I haven't made any threats today.'
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cordellium wrote:

Looks like the feminazis are invading crunchyroll even… Is it really that hard to see that Elliot Rodgers was fucked up in the head and that's why he did what he did and not because he was male? FFS people.


There isn't a post that says he did what he did because he was male?

Seriously, people think that though? I mean come on people, he was obviously twisted in the head, he didn't do what he did just because he was male
Posted 5/28/14

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severticas wrote:

impossible to blame parents and i don't think they are to blame, at a certain age you mentally disassociate yourself to your then primary influence and replace them with new influences. i think being in groups creates this kind of behavior as those in groups are together in their cohesive assault and will not necessarily feel individually responsible. once something is shared, it will dilute the moral implication.


I agree that responsibility is elusive when there are more participants in a given action, but blaming groups is counter-intuitive. Although people shed responsibility when they are in a group, a group can create an environment where people can share ideas. This sharing of ideas is how people can be taught the value of equality. Therefore, the idea of the group should not be blamed.


the group is just one part, i do not mean to say that the group should be blamed but just highlighting how it could be one that causes situations to go further than they have to. equality is not as measurable and when it comes to culture, the situation is far more about notoriety than it is about the subject of ridicule.
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cordellium wrote:

Looks like the feminazis are invading crunchyroll even… Is it really that hard to see that Elliot Rodgers was fucked up in the head and that's why he did what he did and not because he was male? FFS people.


Perusing this, I was wondering when I would finally see that name (Elliot Rodger actually, no 's') in this thread...lol. I spent alot of my time yesterday combing through his manifesto (I've gotten to like page 100 or so). Yes, he was nuts--but the fact of the matter is that he internalized hollywood/popular sex culture so much that it became an obsession, so much of an obsession that as he felt so privileged with his status and family (and thus took none of the typical steps to actually meet women from what I can gather), he decided as because he couldn't simply get what he wanted through passive means, he would throw a killer tantrum about it. You may consider this an extreme example, but I know many men internalize this in a similar fashion, albeit to a lesser extent, even if they don't realize it.

Look, seriously the battle of the genders/sexes in our world is highly based around our culture, which in turn is based around survivalist necessity in the past due to the AVERAGE (ie: typical, every person varies and some females may exhibit very male traits, while some males may exhibit very female traits) biological differences in men and women. Gender distinction in society may have made alot of sense in the past as an imperative of societal efficiency, but it is no longer necessary today. So, if we are to solve these problems, the division of genders needs to be broken so we can all understand each other better. Thing is though, many men don't want to give up their position and blend the roles, and neither do some women. Either that or they believe it is against biology to do so. I guess it's kinda like the war on same-sex marriage in a way, straight couples feel endangered by homosexual couples, even though it has no direct effect on them. Analogously, males and females may feel endangered, or like their identity is being compromised by those in the transgender community or by others who break gender norms. They need to stop thinking that way.

Long story short, humans are flawed, and we should probably all work on some massive project become some sort of monosex species, require everyone try opposite sex hormones for a few months of their lives, or figure out some way to do mind uploading/transfers to eliminate or understand our differences. Alas though, besides potentially the last one when I'm dead, that will probably never happen, so we better learn to understand each other and appreciate and respect our differences better from both sides of the spectrum if we're ever going to make progress.
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I dont even go outside how the fuck am i supposed to sexual harass women





loling so hard right now

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cordellium wrote:

Looks like the feminazis are invading crunchyroll even… Is it really that hard to see that Elliot Rodgers was fucked up in the head and that's why he did what he did and not because he was male? FFS people.


There isn't a post that says he did what he did because he was male?

Seriously, people think that though? I mean come on people, he was obviously twisted in the head, he didn't do what he did just because he was male


There's a lot of men on here and you wouldn't be very popular for long if you started throwing around words like "misogyny" for awhile so I guess that's why you don't hear about it.

But if you've been paying attention to any media outlet regarding the issue, it's a Misogony issue of fathers failing to bring up their sons. The one or two articles detailing about what actually happened is drowned out by feminist wrtiers, SPCA and their supporters with accusations of Misogony.

Nevermind that the majority of the deaths are Asian men, the killer was half-asian and his manifesto included thoughts of Asians as an inferior, ugly separate species of another genus. They're making it sound like the deaths of anyone besides the two females are collateral damage. There are so many outraged feminist columns and follow up comments out there blaming the MRA, PUA, right wing, etc. There is zero evidence that he participated in any of these group or ideologies. The only thing they have on it is that he was a member of ANTI-pua and that he had some MRA videos bookmarked. They're entirely unrelated groups that feminists are grouping all together.

Just because I've visited stormfront in the past out of curiosity doesn't make me a white supremacist does it?

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severticas wrote:

the group is just one part, i do not mean to say that the group should be blamed but just highlighting how it could be one that causes situations to go further than they have to. equality is not as measurable and when it comes to culture, the situation is far more about notoriety than it is about the subject of ridicule.


Yeah I would agree that the group is an interesting aspect of the issue.
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essex1 wrote:
But if you've been paying attention to any media outlet regarding the issue, it's a Misogony issue of fathers failing to bring up their sons. The one or two articles detailing about what actually happened is drowned out by feminist wrtiers, SPCA and their supporters with accusations of Misogony.


Speaking of which, I distinctly remember a point in the manifesto/autobiography where he was literally thrown out of his father's house by his father and his stepmom for MONTHS after an incident where when he was walking back to his mother's from work, he went past his father's and decided to walk in to get a glass of water. As he just walked in and didn't knock, his stepmom flipped the hell out and a whole argument started about the matter--and before he knew it, he wasn't speaking to either of them for months, not until his grandma from England or something helped them reconcile.

So his dad was definitely part of the issue, but yet again, only part of the whole. People are a sum of all their experiences, not just one thing or another. There are many other negatives that occurred in his life, such as:

1. Constant bullying in school due to his stature and social status.
2. Little to no emotional support from friends to directly approach his problems.
3. His parents indulging him when he clearly was acting entitled.
etc, I can name more.

Nothing is that simple, but feminism is certainly relevant. His manifesto depicts women as sex objects in his mind. That's part of what feminism is fighting and it is also relevant.
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*sigh*
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cordellium wrote:

Looks like the feminazis are invading crunchyroll even… Is it really that hard to see that Elliot Rodgers was fucked up in the head and that's why he did what he did and not because he was male? FFS people.


yeah no kidding. I don't feel like having my entertainment fucked up by people who are wasting time being counter productive to the actual movement.

If someone is sexually harassed that's one thing and proper actions should be taken. But im not ok with someone placing the blame on muh chinese cartoons that i quite enjoy.

Theres real feminism. The movement that ACTUALLY does something positive for women. Then there's this fake crap feminism that is just loud for the sake of being loud. Also lets not forget about the other side of the coin. Men are also discriminated against because of "fake" feminists.

It's so disgusting to hear loud mouthed feminists who just want attention who do nothing for the actual movement. If they want to be loud they should just focus their efforts on funding some sort of cancer research.
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