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South Korean has Plastic Surgery to look like Miranda Kerr
Posted 5/29/14 , edited 7/25/14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2642787/Miranda-Kerr-superfan-surgery-eyes-nose-look-like-idol-says-modelling-career-taken-result.html

(First Post) Read the article first, and watch the video included.



(Second Post) EDITED June 8th

Posted 5/29/14
you're a pretty angry person no?

there is no good reason for north korea to exist, but i do agree with you on the whole s.korea observations even if you paint with broad brush strokes
Posted 5/29/14 , edited 5/29/14

shimmer_ wrote:

you're a pretty angry person no?

there is no good reason for north korea to exist, but i do agree with you on the whole s.korea observations even if you paint with broad brush strokes


So I become angry for pointing out something that is completely and utterly detrimental to how people feel about themselves? I admit I get passionate about this, as it is close to me because I interact with a lot of people on a daily basis who admit they want to look different from their race and it is sickening. This is a serious problem affecting not only a society, but a people that simply do not need to be affected by this whatsoever.

I am pretty sure if I had mentioned another country or race of people, that would not have been your comment.

Besides, the last comment about NK was meant to be humorous. At some point, it is true as well.



Posted 5/29/14

SoldierSangria wrote:


shimmer_ wrote:

you're a pretty angry person no?

there is no good reason for north korea to exist, but i do agree with you on the whole s.korea observations even if you paint with broad brush strokes


So I become angry for pointing out something that is completely detrimental to how people feel about themselves. It is close to me because I interact with a lot of people who admit they want to look different from their race. This is a serious problem.



i'm saying your writing style comes off as angry, i realize that may not be the case. many people want to look different than what their race or genetic make up is, thats what plastic surgery is for. this is not strictly an asian problem.
Posted 5/29/14 , edited 5/29/14

shimmer_ wrote:

i'm saying your writing style comes off as angry, i realize that may not be the case. many people want to look different than what their race or genetic make up is, thats what plastic surgery is for. this is not strictly an asian problem.


Ah, but it is a huge Asian problem and it continues with Asian immigrants who leave Asia. Like I said, watch any feature, talk to someone who is willing to be honest. It is pretty much out there in the open.
Posted 5/29/14

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Ah, but it is a huge Asian problem. Like I said, watch any feature, talk to someone who is willing to be honest.



idk, americans are rather obsessed with plastic surgery as well to achieve their ideal. it just so happens koreans (in this example) have an ideal of rounded, sharper chins, more anglo, etc.

like i said i understand the issue and i'm not attacking you for bringing it up. but maybe it would have been better to criticize surgery while pointing out the extremes in the asian examples which are close to you.

carry on
Posted 5/29/14 , edited 5/29/14

shimmer_ wrote:

idk, americans are rather obsessed with plastic surgery as well to achieve their ideal. it just so happens koreans (in this example) have an ideal of rounded, sharper chins, more anglo, etc.

like i said i understand the issue and i'm not attacking you for bringing it up. but maybe it would have been better to criticize surgery while pointing out the extremes in the asian examples which are close to you.

carry on


Uh, American is not a race. It is a nationality. Whites are not the only Americans, you know? They were not even the first ones here, did you know that? In fact, you're carrying on this conversation with a non-white American.

And I did mention in my first post, that ps happens all over the world. But most of the non-Asians are not having plastic surgery to change features from their race to make themselves look Asian, are they?

Whoops.

Koreans and Asians in general do many a time get plastic surgery to look like another race. Even they admit it by saying they want to look Western (aka, white/European!). The only time Asians got this ideal was after seeing whites. Before that they were pretty much fine with themselves as they should be.

You don't see whites (for example) having surgery to make themselves look more stereotypically Asian now, do you?

There is something wrong with a society that puts up another race as the ideal, while putting down their own natural features. Just imagine what that is doing to their children's self esteem.

There will be people in every race who want to look like another race, but not to the sheer extent that many Asians have been affected by this issue.
Posted 5/29/14 , edited 5/29/14

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Uh, American is not a race. It is a nationality. Whites are not the only Americans, you know? They were not even the first ones here, did you know that? In fact, you're carrying on this conversation with a non-white American.

And I did mention in my first post, that ps happens all over the world. But most of the non-Asians are not having plastic surgery to change features from their race to make themselves look Asian, are they?

Whoops.

Koreans and Asians in general do many a time get plastic surgery to look like another race. Even they admit it by saying they want to look Western (aka, white/European!). The only time Asians got this ideal was after seeing whites. Before that they were pretty much fine with themselves.

You don't see whites (for example) having surgery to make themselves look more stereotypically Asian now, do you?

There is something wrong with a society that puts up another race as the ideal, while putting down their own natural features. Just imagine what that is doing to their children's self esteem.


yeah i'm also a non-white american and korean is a nationality as well so what of it? i was comparing one society to another and when i reference to their ideal i said anglo...

who cares what race they are changing themselves to, when the real issue should be why anyone see so much less of themselves that they are willing to go to drastic measure to change themselves? there is something wrong with any society that values whatever version of beauty over what they currently are.

yes you're asian, tho i wouldn't call filipino typical asian
yes you don't want "your" culture to change themselves to another ideal
yes you want to voice your opinion and so you did.

i really don't have much else to say here

edit:
idk if i would say asians are the greatest offender but that is just opinion that we may not agree on
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One of the big reasons Korean women get surgery is not to look white, Koreans and Asians in general not trying to be rude but could care less about being white but want to enhance there beauty they can’t do that by making there eye’s smaller. It is true that Koreans find foreign women beautiful, but they don’t want to look like them. Just because an Asian wants bigger,eye’s, forehead and whiter skin doesn’t mean they want to be white, they are trying to fit the standards they have generations, certain foreigners just happen to fit the standard as well.

People in Asia generally do not aspire to look like Paris Hilton or Kim Kardasian
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I agree with some of your comments, but some comments need to be addressed.

There is a problem with superficiality in South Korea, but it's not just SK, it's actually most of developed countries in the world. Everyone wants to look good. I don't think the majority of Korean have an unhealthy obsession with Asians trying to be more "White." There's a select group that may have that trait, but for the most part, I think people just go with what's popular and considered attractive at the time. There was a time when certain "western" features, such as having double eyelids, was considered desirable, but I think that's changed. Since pretty much all Asians have black hair, bleaching hair to be brunette or blond isn't so much a "I want to be White" thing as a "I want to be different" thing.

As far as "White" English teachers being more desirable in Korea than Asian English teachers, the reason is the same as how in America, having an Asian Chinese teacher is more desirable than having a White Chinese teacher, think about it...

There's actually far less interracial marriages in South Korea than probably any other developed country. In fact, I know many Korean girls that will strictly only date Korean guys, but I don't think I've met a single Korean girl that will only date White guys.

I think there's a small minority of Koreans that have an unhealthy obsession with trying to be white, and that group gets a lot of media attention, which makes it seem like it's a country-wide systemic problem. Then again, there's a strange phenomenon in America known as "Yellow Fever" where whites have an unhealthy obsession with trying to be Asian, so yeah.
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Some Korean girls are hot, why would they wanna be more western?

There are hotties in every race, I think emphasis with plastic surgery is fine. Trying to be more European, I don't see much of a point.

The curious part is that her modelling career took off in Korea, I'm not surprised thought.

Wasn't there some skin bleaching thing? and some cosmetics to make eyes seem more larger?
Posted 5/29/14 , edited 5/29/14

shimmer_ wrote:

yeah i'm also a non-white american and korean is a nationality as well so what of it? i was comparing one society to another and when i reference to their ideal i said anglo...

who cares what race they are changing themselves to, when the real issue should be why anyone see so much less of themselves that they are willing to go to drastic measure to change themselves? there is something wrong with any society that values whatever version of beauty over what they currently are.

yes you're asian, tho i wouldn't call filipino typical asian
yes you don't want "your" culture to change themselves to another ideal
yes you want to voice your opinion and so you did.

i really don't have much else to say here

edit:
idk if i would say asians are the greatest offender but that is just opinion that we may not agree on


It is not about "my culture" changing themselves to another ideal. It is how they are failing to like themselves and how they look without getting any surgery. Like I've said: by placing another ideal of a person for their society to emulate, they are putting themselves down and they are hurting their own self esteem.

It doesn't matter what race they want to look like - white, black whatever; what matters is they cannot be happy with their natural features.

Instead of putting another race's looks up, they should encourage their people to be happy how they are and proud of their own looks without putting someone else up, or another down.
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"oh no"
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I agree with SOME of the things you said about South Korea. But me, being a South Korean-American cannot agree to all.
I agree, South Koreans do usually do plastic surgery, BUT NOT ALL. How can they be happy being who they are "not"?
Because if it makes them more confident, then they are happy with it. Sure not everyone in Korea uses plastic surgery appropriately, but the majority do. They don't all imitate others, but it is considered more of a beauty tool.
In South Korea, image is a really important thing, especially for the face. There are lots of people in Korea who want to be really fashionable and pretty/handsome, so they commonly fix their nose with surgery, lips with surgery, laser eye surgery, etc.
Lots of people do it. They are happy with it because it makes them look prettier.
People don't just get surgery because they don't want it. They get surgery for the better.
(Although, there might be a few cases here and there where their parents force them to get surgery or try to persuade their children into getting surgery.*cough cough* my mother *cough cough*)
However, it helps them so why not?
If they feel better with themselves, why not?
So what if they are getting surgery to "look" like a European person?
Sorry if I am putting a lot of hate out there, but me also being a Korean is kind of offensive to me. "bashing" on my nation like that when you don't know everything. There are a lot of things missing from your side.
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When you lose who you are to become someone else is just beyond sad.
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