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I get the feeling some of the anime fans might be asking for too much.
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Let me know if a thread like this one exist or not.
Thanks a bunches.

Explain your opinion in great detail.
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Forgive me if this is confusing to you all. I couldn't explain it like I wanted to.

Some of you feel like things are lacking while others do not. The constant cliches, censorship in some anime, and lack of originality is getting most of you down. Some of you feel like Japan isn't even trying anymore while some others do not. The point being is that anime is obviously changing and some things are losing what it use to be. Now, anime is nothing but a business. Is there still originality? Will there be some borderline? Are we asking too much? Is anime(popularity wise) as large as we think it is?


Bonus Questions:

1. How do you feel about how anime is now vs. in the past?

2. What are your feeling towards this?



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Enjoy!!!
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Maybe I'm too simple.

But I dont think about it too much.

I enjoyed anime in the past and I enjoy it now.

I buy and support as I can, and I am loving anime.

I dont think much deeper into it.
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All I ask from anime is to let me watch it in peace.
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Sacae89 wrote:

Maybe I'm too simple.

But I dont think about it too much.

I enjoyed anime in the past and I enjoy it now.

I buy and support as I can, and I am loving anime.

I dont think much deeper into it.



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AnimeKami wrote:

All I ask from anime is to let me watch it in peace.


Sounds good.
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I ask for character depth and character development. Quirky attitudes and stereotypical characters don't work for me, but they seem to be all the rage right now.
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xxJing wrote:

I ask for character depth and character development. Quirky attitudes and stereotypical characters don't work for me, but they seem to be all the rage right now.


I thought you went to bed
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Sacae89 wrote:


xxJing wrote:

I ask for character depth and character development. Quirky attitudes and stereotypical characters don't work for me, but they seem to be all the rage right now.


I thought you went to bed


I was planning to, but I am watching Breaking Bad between posts. Such an addictive show.
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The way that I view the stagnating anime perspective is that it makes it easier to find the "diamonds in the rough".

Some examples this season I'm really enjoying Atelier Escha and Logy but it hasn't been picked up by anyone and M3 is similarly enjoyable but less so than Atelier.

But there is also some really good anime that come out of the "mainstream" anime. No Game No Life took the community by storm and it has just repeated the same idea as The Problem Children Are Coming From Another World. It all comes down to execution: If the characters are likeable and well developed and the setting is enjoyable, then the audience will enjoy it as well.
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To not ask is to not receive.

Products need to have certain expectations of quality, our time and money are worth consideration and analysis.

A poor product should be poorly regarded. A poor product with a lot of effort put ibto it should be regarded as a fantastically good poor product.

Movies like "The Room" are so bad, they require a watch.

Movies like "Spider-Man" attempt to entertain more than tell a story.

Just like we should hire more ethnic actors and try to remove the horrible "white viewers wont watch movies without white leads" (also a cause of white washing) stigma that exists in American cenima, we should provide better characters and animation in Anime.

Standards are there fir a reason. You expect companies abd stories to gradually improve with time, and not in a linear fashion. There are Thousands of Anime, and you cant watch then all.

I went to School, i learned a few things(but not IN school, that was asking too much) i know how literature comprehension works. I know why The Great Gatsby is my favorite book, i know why others hate it. I understand people are talking about How to Kill a Mockingbird when I hear the name Boo Radley.

Now they dont need these exact or even as good a readijg experience. But what works and what doesnt has already been explained.

When Arms made Queens Blade, it was to sell softcore porn anine figures.

When Trigger make Little Witch Academia, it was to teach new animators the trade.

When Trigger made Inferno Cop to show off how little work you actually need to make a decent Anime, it fucking worked.

Its not just quality. Log Horizon is totally a SAO license copy cat. They bought the license and tried to steal viewers with a similar theme... but guess what, the LN source was an honestly good piece of work, and shit worked out.

Time goes into Animation. Toy Story took 2 months per minute of animation back in the 90s, While South Park churns out weekly episodes, something the rest of western animation rarely does, Anime does the same. That is a LOT OF EFFORT.

I hate it when people say "turn off your brain" for a reason, effort goes into every frame. Kill La Kill spent at least 2 years in preproduction. They had unique characters and I swear some characters are based off intended Voice Actors. 2 whole years were spent trying to parody the majority of 80s Anime while providing a unique experience. Why did you think people said Kill la Kill was saving anine? Just like OVAs of tue past, it was hard fucking work, they did it right.

Computer Generated animation was so prevalent in the early 2000's and so bad, Miyazaki swore it off forever, and cheap shows were created in mass.

When you see the cheap shows, you can only facepalm.


Ive been Phone typing too long, I got to be up early for my Birthday party tomorrow, so if you want rambling stupid on my part some more, just ask. Im always willing to tell my opinions, even if i get off track.
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I'm still watch anime 2007~2011. In that time i think, anime industry reach the highest level with amotional story.

altrought 2007-2011 is the best, some anime who aired in 2012-2013 was have a nice story too, like Danganronpa The Animation, Singeki no Kyojin, Kuroko no Basuke, etc
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It's an industry phase; it's not as bad as some people seem to think, it just is what it is.

I do wish they'd invest more into the writing though, especially when a show is actually trying to be taken seriously. Things like Kyoukai no Kanata and Suisei no Gargantia shouldn't have gone into production in their current forms.

Psycho-Pass had a pretty weak first cour, Shin Sekai Yori had a horrifically bad final arc, etc.; the higher you aim the further you can fall, and the more obvious it'll be when you do. These things should've been ironed out in pre-production.

/imo
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Insomnist wrote:

It's an industry phase; it's not as bad as some people seem to think, it just is what it is.

I do wish they'd invest more into the writing though, especially when a show is actually trying to be taken seriously. Things like Kyoukai no Kanata and Suisei no Gargantia shouldn't have gone into production in their current forms.

Psycho-Pass had a pretty weak first cour, Shin Sekai Yori had a horrifically bad final arc, etc.; the higher you aim the further you can fall, and the more obvious it'll be when you do. These things should've been ironed out in pre-production.

/imo



Did come off as "trying too hard" or "not trying hard enough"?
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Like most of y'all (no offense), i'm not taking things for granted.
I'm already very happy that I even get to enjoy Anime. That they even do make Anime...

I do understand the people who think that Anime were/weren't much better in the past.
Flaws in Anime etc etc.. but it's just being too greedy in my opinion.
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Insomnist wrote:
Psycho-Pass had a pretty weak first cour, Shin Sekai Yori had a horrifically bad final arc, etc.; the higher you aim the further you can fall, and the more obvious it'll be when you do. These things should've been ironed out in pre-production.

/imo


These titles could be improved, but they're so far above the average anime that it makes me wonder why you're even mentioning them.

My main complaint is rather than tell interesting stories as the titles listed above do, many series seem to be developed to just check off a certain number of gimmicks that are likely to trigger interest in their niche market.

1. Twist plot into knots to take place in high school
2. Add Loli's
3. Bro/Sis Complex
4. Include at least one of the dere types rather than fully actualized characters. Better still, include all of them, even if you're not trying to create a harem anime.
5. 'moe' art style

I suppose I should hand it to them for knowing their market. On the other hand it's unfortunate for me because I watch anime for interesting sci-fi fantasy stories with more depth than I've come to expect from most of the western market.

Having said all that, these gimmicks aren't exactly new, and my anime viewing history only goes back about 15 years, much of which I only had access to the most mainstream and popular anime. So its difficult to determine if time is an exceptionally good quality filter for these gimmicks and all the older series relying on them get filtered out, or if the industry is relying less on storytelling and more on these gimmicks. I'm going to go with both.

I remember reading that, and it's very sad. I don't know much about Japanese culture but its amazing they live as long as they do with as much stress as their culture puts on them
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