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Post Reply In your opinion, what is the difference between self-sacrifice and suicide?
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Interesting comment.
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Self sacrifice is when you're actually contributing to something such as if terrorists get in a bank or something and you're the richest guy there are kids and women there the terrorist say "we want all of your stuff even your life" to you (the rich guy) and you do it..you saved people / contributed to something...

Suicide is when people think their lives are "too hard" or "worthless" and they start thinking negitave about theirself which is stupid in my opinion suicide is for people that have weak self-esteem and if you think a few little things will ruin your life that's your problem. Most of the time when people commit suicide its for one of the following...1.) Lost someone really close to you to the way you cant stand it anymore (my friends gf died and they were never seen away from eachother he loved her a lot) he finially went somewhere to help him 2.)Hate yourself for no reason 3.) Bullying 4.)Think you're worthless 5.) some people commit suicide just because of the fact that no one talks to you at school , people don't seem to like you , and you have no friends (most of the time when this occurs its not you that's the problem its most likely the people you try to hang with)......basically what im saying is suicide is for stupid people that give up way too easily..if you have a problem with what I just said tell me and i'll talk some freaking sense into you.
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Self sacrifice is when you're actually contributing to something such as if terrorists get in a bank or something and you're the richest guy there are kids and women there the terrorist say "we want all of your stuff even your life" to you (the rich guy) and you do it..you saved people / contributed to something...

Suicide is when people think their lives are "too hard" or "worthless" and they start thinking negitave about theirself which is stupid in my opinion suicide is for people that have weak self-esteem and if you think a few little things will ruin your life that's your problem. Most of the time when people commit suicide its for one of the following...1.) Lost someone really close to you to the way you cant stand it anymore (my friends gf died and they were never seen away from eachother he loved her a lot) he finially went somewhere to help him 2.)Hate yourself for no reason 3.) Bullying 4.)Think you're worthless 5.) some people commit suicide just because of the fact that no one talks to you at school , people don't seem to like you , and you have no friends (most of the time when this occurs its not you that's the problem its most likely the people you try to hang with)......basically what im saying is suicide is for stupid people that give up way too easily..if you have a problem with what I just said tell me and i'll talk some freaking sense into you.



Regardless of the person's reason for ending their life that is pretty ballsy.
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Neriko1039 wrote:

Self sacrifice is when you're actually contributing to something such as if terrorists get in a bank or something and you're the richest guy there are kids and women there the terrorist say "we want all of your stuff even your life" to you (the rich guy) and you do it..you saved people / contributed to something...

Suicide is when people think their lives are "too hard" or "worthless" and they start thinking negitave about theirself which is stupid in my opinion suicide is for people that have weak self-esteem and if you think a few little things will ruin your life that's your problem. Most of the time when people commit suicide its for one of the following...1.) Lost someone really close to you to the way you cant stand it anymore (my friends gf died and they were never seen away from eachother he loved her a lot) he finially went somewhere to help him 2.)Hate yourself for no reason 3.) Bullying 4.)Think you're worthless 5.) some people commit suicide just because of the fact that no one talks to you at school , people don't seem to like you , and you have no friends (most of the time when this occurs its not you that's the problem its most likely the people you try to hang with)......basically what im saying is suicide is for stupid people that give up way too easily..if you have a problem with what I just said tell me and i'll talk some freaking sense into you.



Regardless of the person's reason for ending their life that is pretty ballsy.


Ballsy?
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Neriko1039 wrote:

Self sacrifice is when you're actually contributing to something such as if terrorists get in a bank or something and you're the richest guy there are kids and women there the terrorist say "we want all of your stuff even your life" to you (the rich guy) and you do it..you saved people / contributed to something...

Suicide is when people think their lives are "too hard" or "worthless" and they start thinking negitave about theirself which is stupid in my opinion suicide is for people that have weak self-esteem and if you think a few little things will ruin your life that's your problem. Most of the time when people commit suicide its for one of the following...1.) Lost someone really close to you to the way you cant stand it anymore (my friends gf died and they were never seen away from eachother he loved her a lot) he finially went somewhere to help him 2.)Hate yourself for no reason 3.) Bullying 4.)Think you're worthless 5.) some people commit suicide just because of the fact that no one talks to you at school , people don't seem to like you , and you have no friends (most of the time when this occurs its not you that's the problem its most likely the people you try to hang with)......basically what im saying is suicide is for stupid people that give up way too easily..if you have a problem with what I just said tell me and i'll talk some freaking sense into you.



Regardless of the person's reason for ending their life that is pretty ballsy.

Not really. Usually people kill themselves in the least painful ways possible, in order to escape from the pains of their life rather than confront and overcome them. I don't think suicides are cowardly people, but to argue that it's a brave act requires some lengths of mental acrobatics.
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Yeah. I at least see it that way.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


Neriko1039 wrote:

Self sacrifice is when you're actually contributing to something such as if terrorists get in a bank or something and you're the richest guy there are kids and women there the terrorist say "we want all of your stuff even your life" to you (the rich guy) and you do it..you saved people / contributed to something...

Suicide is when people think their lives are "too hard" or "worthless" and they start thinking negitave about theirself which is stupid in my opinion suicide is for people that have weak self-esteem and if you think a few little things will ruin your life that's your problem. Most of the time when people commit suicide its for one of the following...1.) Lost someone really close to you to the way you cant stand it anymore (my friends gf died and they were never seen away from eachother he loved her a lot) he finially went somewhere to help him 2.)Hate yourself for no reason 3.) Bullying 4.)Think you're worthless 5.) some people commit suicide just because of the fact that no one talks to you at school , people don't seem to like you , and you have no friends (most of the time when this occurs its not you that's the problem its most likely the people you try to hang with)......basically what im saying is suicide is for stupid people that give up way too easily..if you have a problem with what I just said tell me and i'll talk some freaking sense into you.



Regardless of the person's reason for ending their life that is pretty ballsy.

Not really. Usually people kill themselves in the least painful ways possible, in order to escape from the pains of their life rather than confront and overcome them. I don't think suicides are cowardly people, but to argue that it's a brave act requires some lengths of mental acrobatics.


Suicides are weak people that RUN away from their problems instead of facing them and dealing with it.

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Personally, I see it as brave mainly because it had to take lack of hesitation and knowing once you die you can't come back. Doesn't matter how and/or why you end your life the point is you did it. Far as selfish, only your family and friends decide that.
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How is ending your life deemed weak?
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How is ending your life deemed weak?


wtf? killing yourself because you cant handle things is weak period. it dosent matter if you know you wont come back.. everyone knows you don't come back after death (unless you believe in the afterlife) it dosent take a brave person to die like that.

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wtf? killing yourself because you cant handle things is weak period. it dosent matter if you know you wont come back.. everyone knows you don't come back after death (unless you believe in the afterlife) it dosent take a brave person to die like that.



I do see what your getting at and a lot of suicides are because of brats that think their life is over because their bf/gf broke up with them and such but then theirs the people that truly want to because they can't take the pain of being beaten day by day seeing no happiness and having no hope when your just screamed at to die everyday and to just go die. Woops getting to personal but I think theirs different types of suiciders and some are selfish.
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Yeah, it does. Being afraid to die whether brave or not seems normal. Ending your life for ANY reason shows you stared death in the face without flinching. Weak or not, selfish or not, stupid or not you wasn't afraid to die in the end.
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It doesn't mean you lack hesitation in the least. Lots of suicides are multiple-attempt, or you get the person spending a long time standing on that bridge. See what I mean?

Doesn't always take knowing that death is final either. Most martyrdom is based on the perception of paradise aka. a better life following this one, so people see it as a rite of passage to a just reward for their deed. As for the rest, knowing you can't come back is exactly why they do it - because they're definitively cancelling the reality that has caused them such pain.

Also I covered that family thing in my last post. If your friends and family don't care, then truly that's a sad case. Often, however, there will always be people suffering, and you'll be the one causing that suffering by killing yourself.


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qualeshia3 wrote:



How is ending your life deemed weak?


wtf? killing yourself because you cant handle things is weak period. it dosent matter if you know you wont come back.. everyone knows you don't come back after death (unless you believe in the afterlife) it dosent take a brave person to die like that.


I think you're being inconsiderate.
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I'm not being inconsiderate at all. doing something selfish as killing yourself is just weak.
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I'm not being inconsiderate at all. doing something selfish as killing yourself is just weak.

You seem to enjoy dishing out lazy judgement. My uncle hung himself in his mid-twenties and I think it was something to do with the fact that on that side of the family we aren't intimate, emotional people and keep a stiff upper-lip in the face of adversity rather than vent and open up to each other. I don't think he ever felt that he could turn to people and had things been different he may have turned out as a different fellow. A person's nurture and environment are often hugely decisive factors and it's in similar ones to what I described - such as more introverted and stoic cultures like the Finnish and Japanese - that you find more suicides. It's often the people who try to be strongest and not lean on anyone that are most prone to the deed. So really, just saying that it's weak people being weak denotes a lack of willingness to think about the issue you're so outspokenly discussing.
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