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Sexy vs Pervy
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after viewing this thread, I went and looked up the definition of "Pervert" which lead me to look at the definition of "Perversion". After all these decades, I thought I am a pervert; According to the definition of those words, I am not a pervert. now, I do not know what to call myself.
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It's normal. Especially in the brain's developmental stage to have wild risqué fantasies. It's not wrong to like a certain hip to waist ratio just like it's not wrong to want a man's penis at a certain size. It's what you determine to be attractive and good. So then that's all you have. It's not perverted to want a girl with big tits. Or to want a girl with a particular looking face. It's just not. What's wrong is anytime you feel like those things become more important to you than who the person is on the inside. Like to me something like this "Man, she's so cute when she sneezes. Omg Her boobs probably jiggle like crazy. I'd love to be the bra, supporting her bust while she sneezes.. it's a burden I'd love to bare.." While silly, is endearing. "NICE TITS!" is just well… Like treating her like a piece of meat and exclaiming something about her body without attaching her identity to it.. Having off the wall fantasy moments like those are my specialty.

I'm not gonna deny, I'm a perv. But who the person IS is what actually makes all of the parts sexy to me.
Posted 6/3/14
give me both I don't wanna choose, give it all to meee
Posted 6/3/14
well........... my minds always in the gutter xD i cant just look and not think of something pervy.... but thats just me
Posted 6/3/14
Don't want if you can't perv me while you sex me omg
Posted 6/3/14
From good looking person = Sexy and cute
From ugly person = sexual harassment
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Why is it always the middle/high schoolers getting the 'perv' label? As if grown college boys and men aren't.


GROWN college boys? GROWN? GROWN? GROWN?
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Phersu wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

Perversion is the same principle as "evil". It's defined by people and very subjective due to individual's values.

Like personally I don't even consider watching yaoi/yuri as perverted but apparently a lot of people here think that qualifies for perversion.

I've always thought perversion was more about, a person touching another person without their consent.


Instead of perversion, that's plain rape. Perversion is more anything that the majority of the people don't practice. Which is why some people would claim that gays are perverted. So, if it deviates from the status quo when it comes to sexuality, it is generally seen as perverted.

Which is why I'm a pervert.


Well, if you look at it like that, you are basically saying that a fetish or a taboo is the same thing as being perverted, because that's the definition. Fetish is when you 'get off' by some act that arouses you, which isn't socially 'acceptable' and whereas taboo is when you're either doing or talking about something that is not socially 'acceptable' that's your *deviates from the status quo*
Well in that sense, pervert is the same thing as a fetish. -.-?

I think that being perverted and thinking something is sexy is the same as when you are 'normal' and thinking that they are sexy, there is nothing to it. Being a pervert on the other hand is all about how you act around people (most likely, the opposite sex, or bragging to your friends) Whereas you are talking openly about, let's say, breasts and the other person is uncomfortable about the subject at hand, it's just about perspective, what I mean is, if you were talking to your girlfriend about breasts, she would be okay with it, (of course, not talking about other breasts than hers! xD) But if you were to go up to a stranger and say, "damn, do you like A-cups or C-cups" that'd probably throw them off and think you were a pervert.
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I'm very much a pervert. Well, I think so anyway, what with a foot fetish and all... It pretty much makes me a pervert from the off. Like "There's a hot girl... Wonder what her feet are like?"

I have a girlfriend though so she's literally the only girl I consider "sexy" at this moment in time. Not because I'm a pervert, but holy s**t her attitude makes my insides squirm in a good way <3
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A lot of people throw the word pervert around all willy nilly these days, and it's often applied where it technically isn't applicable. A pervert is someone who's sexual preferences/activities are considered strange by most other people. Sexy means you find someone sexually attractive. Finding someone sexy isn't sexually weird it's normal human behaviour so no; it's not perverted. You can be both perverted and find someone sexy, but simply finding someone sexy isn't enough to classify you as a pervert. Having sexual thoughts about someone you find sexy is technically not perverted, either, since most humans do it, regardless of whether they admit it or not.

Of course, a lot of it comes down to what you'd classify as being 'sexually abnormal' when foreplay comes into the equation, and as such fetishes usually equate to being perverted. For the sake of a more solid point, thinking something like 'Boy, I'd love to rape her and cut her up' would be, well, psychotic for one thing, but also sexually abnormal because the majority of humans don't think like that. Simply thinking someone is sexy and even having sexy thoughts about them isn't perverted so long as said thoughts don't contain sexual activities deemed unorthodox by the general human populus.

So yeah, all those times in the hot spring episodes you see the ladies calling the guys a pervert for wanting to see them nude or for staring at their boobs, since it's not abnormal behaviour for straight male's to have interests in seeing the female body, if you follow the objective definition, they're technically not a pervert. That doesn't mean it's right because it's an invasion of privacy that isn't consensual, and you could argue that them acting on said desires rather than showing restraint is what makes it perverted, but food for thought nonetheless.

At the end of the day, on the fetish front I fit the bill for being classified as a pervert, but then depending on what your 'abnormal' sexual preference is, being a pervert isn't a godawfully terrible thing when you think about it. Infact, most perverts won't even be caught out as being perverts because you can still be perverted and respect a person. Say you had a foot fetish; there's a chance that a person with said fetish may only demonstrate that in the bedroom. The act may be perverted, but if they kept it to themselves and weren't staring at everyone's feet 24/7 then there you go.

Especially if they have good self-control they're really of no threat or harm to anyone. Plenty of people with fetishes will respect a partner's preferences as well, and avoid engaging in a fetish-based act if said partner doesn't like it, and I would encourage you ask before you do in that situation. Outside of sexual encounters they're just normal people who are attracted to a body part or item that, by default, humans aren't meant to be. That doesn't mean it's wrong, though. Humans were never meant to fly, but it doesn't meant the feeling of flight isn't exhilarating for many people. If said fetish breaks the law in some way there's a bigger chance of their being a problem, but if someone was all 'Hey, I have a glasses fetish' I wouldn't think any less of them. I sort of deviated away from the whole sexy vs pervy bit, but being a pervert is only really dangerous or a problem if a person forces the perverted act on a person and won't stop.

In short, being a pervert isn't always the terrible thing people make it out to be, and thinking someone is sexy is the complete opposite of being a pervert. There'd be a bigger problem if you didn't think anyone was sexy, and even then there are people who feel like that so that's not really a 'problem', either.
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Edit: Removed quoted text as I feel I should just address the point in a stand alone manner. Then several more times to fix formatting issues. >_<

The thread title was misleading. I was hoping we might discuss thoughts and opinions on how to check one's self as to whether or not one is being "sexy" or one is being "pervy". While this would be mostly subjective (and the objective bits are so based upon intangibles like one's own conscience indicating that not everything is permissible)... some general guidelines would be helpful for some... because even if I don't know how to do it "right", I can still recognize that a lot of people are doing it 'wrong". Granted, I say aim for "beauty", not "sexy": the latter isn't as hard to achieve but also carries almost none of the rewards.

"Pervert" and "pervy" are indeed used in a variety of manners, though the idea that such things are purely subjective is misleading. Sex and sexuality has its proper place, and deviation from that place is perversion. In the same way, one can pervert almost anything - not just sex - by misusing it, especially if it contradicts the original intent or use or some other term because this really is a broad concept.

The catch is that objective or subjective, its down to a matter of belief. If you don't believe such standards exist, there is no way to prove that they do... but also no way to prove that they don't, and that we remain largely unaware of them save for what little bits prick our conscience.
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ya there's a difference , thinking a guy is good lookin is one thing but wanting to torture him i mean do him is another


TheRealEscargotpudding wrote:


Xie_Lang wrote:

Why is it always the middle/high schoolers getting the 'perv' label? As if grown college boys and men aren't.


GROWN college boys? GROWN? GROWN? GROWN?


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Every time I see the word 'Pervy', I just instantly think of Jiraiya
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Xie_Lang wrote:


Phersu wrote:


Xie_Lang wrote:

Exactly. I admit to being a bit of a teasing perv. I can basically pull a dirty joke out of my sleeve for almost everything someone says. Kinda comes with the territory considering the people I grew up with.


Likewise.


Besides, dirty jokes are the best jokes.




You nailed it. Being such an impossible topic to surmise; having been in the presence of world renowned aristocrats, dirty jokes were an art form worth noting. When presented appropriately, even the strictest of grandmothers would laugh. In summary, know your audience! Tasteful perversion keeps spirits high; while sexiness provides us new material.


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