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Posted 6/4/14 , edited 6/4/14

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Wow you must lack awareness, if this was the case, there would be thousands of rapes every day.

Well, how many rapes are there in a day? Less than one thousand, or more?


There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year. So, 31,536,000 divided by 237,868 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 133 seconds, or about 1 every 2 minutes.


Source:https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault


Note: these are sexual assault charges, which can range from brushing a woman's shoulder, to full on rape and everything inbetween.
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dyme420 wrote:
There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year. So, 31,536,000 divided by 237,868 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 133 seconds, or about 1 every 2 minutes.


Source:https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault


Note: these are sexual assault charges, which can range from brushing a woman's shoulder, to full on rape and everything inbetween.

Wow, less than 1K a day. I don't know if that is something to be proud of though. Probably not.
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Like to dress skimpy with lots of makeup? Guess what?? You're OBJECTIFYING YOURSELF. Of course, talking about woman problems as a man is just going to bring loads of hate but so what? How about women stop wearing sexy, revealing outfits? No, but you look at them in admiration and they snare at you; "What the hell are you looking at?"... YOU I'm LOOKING AT YOU prancing around with your ass hanging out, your legs exposed all the way up to your crotch with booty shorts and you expect NOT to be raped??

I'm not sure you ladies know, but dress like a whore, get treated like a whore. But no, it's mens fault for being attracted to women. Funny no one accuses the lion of misogyny for destroying the piece of meat he's been taunted with by the handler. But somehow we've got to deal with pieces of meat walking around (yes i just said pieces of meat, like i said. YOU objectify yourselves.) as men and just turn the other cheek.



Translation: Men are primitive animals. They have no moral conscience and are completely incapable of self control.
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No, that's clearly not what he is saying. He's saying that If you're sexy, the reason why you haven't been raped yet is because men have been holding their rapey urges. If women were to just stop being too sexy they wouldn't be so much rape! Why can't people get simple logic. So there, your comment is refuted. Men do have self control unlike those women. They don't have the self control to not wearing booty shorts, the thing that started the rape-ness in the first place
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Yes, you're right. He definitely hated the whole human race, not just women. Misogyny was just one of many factors unfortunately.

Personally I think we should focus more on erasing misogyny, racism, etc. and honoring those who were killed rather than the killer himself. If I ever come across as being disrespectful on this sensitive issue I hope you all feel free to let me know :>


So long as the media exists and the sensationalism from these stories is popular I doubt we'll ever see this, though it's a nice thought. Granted I don't normally do so because I don't care to give these guys the attention they seek, but I watched the kids video he made (partly because I was unaware of the motive). I can only imagine how this will fuel future psychopaths since that one had something like 3.5 million hits on Youtube alone. And you know that the next tragedy will get just as much airtime and the cycle will continue.

I can't remember who said it, but I remember someone saying we're probably one generation away from erasing color. The idea behind that is that race, sexual preference, and other things that are stigmatized and frowned upon will be far less prominent. Sure, you'll still have your crazy groups that take it to the extreme like the KKK, Westboro Baptist Church and all those other lunatics. But gay marriage will just be the norm.

While I don't know that one generation is how close we are, I can see it from my generation to my parents generation. Most of my uncles that live in the country have strong racist tendencies. They hated my dad because he was mexican, I'm pretty sure they hate Obama solely because he's black (disregard his horrible decision making that gives you plenty of reasons to hate him lol). Then I've heard them say things that allude to them being uncomfortable if I were to come home with a black or even asian girlfriend. It's pretty sad to be honest. I won't even get started on their nonsensical views on gay marriage.

Then transition to me, and I don't give a crap if gay people get married. My logic is that we spend way too little time on Earth to spend our days making someone else's life miserable for no reason. So long as you're not hurting anyone, do what you will and make the most out of the time you get here. I think my sisters feel the same way, and it looks like some social issues have made quite some headway in recent times.
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bathroom64 wrote:


dyme420 wrote:
There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year. So, 31,536,000 divided by 237,868 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 133 seconds, or about 1 every 2 minutes.


Source:https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault


Note: these are sexual assault charges, which can range from brushing a woman's shoulder, to full on rape and everything inbetween.

Wow, less than 1K a day. I don't know if that is something to be proud of though. Probably not.



You're taking that number and directly translating it as rape statistics, the statistics state, "Sexual Assault charges". It 's not all women, it's not all rape.


Are you sure that's something not to be proud of? I don't rape, I don't condone rape. I have zero respect for anyone who has to use violence or coercion to get what they desire. That being said, given the scale of the population, the instincts and average intelligence of human beings(religion). I'm surprised it isn't more considering how provocative some females dress.


Yes, I am proud of my gender and our general respect for women and their bodies.
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I'd settle for that number to be ZERO, but oh well. Whatever rocks your boat.
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Yeah? And #YesAllWomen was filled with white, heterosexual woman from first world countries that wouldn't know oppression if it slapped them in the face. I saw people in there complaining about having to wear a dress code to fucking school, how privileged do you gatta be to complain about not being able to wear leggings to school? Girls in other countries are being circumcised, girls in other schools are even fucking denied education, women are killed for being raped, women in other countries have no damn rights what-so-ever. Do you honestly think you as a woman in a first world country is oppressed for being female when you have all your basic human rights? Really?

Why don't you try spending every day being oppressed? Cause, I'll assure you it will open your damn eyes to just how fucking easy you have it. And before you come snapping at me about how I'm an 'oh so privileged male' I am a latino, transgender man who is forced to live with a super conservative family. I live every damn day with crippling dysphoria that used to make me barf up my food and starve myself, I live every damn day being forced to be a woman and be called a damn woman when I know I'm not one. I have to live with a terrible fear of even fucking going outside because I can barely stand people looking at me while I'm female. I break down often, I have panic attacks and can never seek any type of help because my parents do not believe in mental illnesses or anything like that and they would beat me if I came out to them as a transgender just like they've hurt me before because they've caught me trying to dress like a man. I've come out to people and had to deal with the fear of being 'correctively raped' by people I trusted, I've been threatened with impregnation, I've been sexually harassed for what I am. I can be denied medical help, I can be fired from work for being transgender. I can be denied stuff for being a transgender man. As a transgender man I have so many rights restricted. You as a cisgender woman in fucking America do not face being denied rights or anything of that manner based upon your gender. Do not compare your 'problems' to actual oppression.
It seems like you are the one most keen on making comparisons. Is the conversation going to be about which oppressed is more oppressed? There's gender inequality, it's a world wide issue and effects all types of women. Sexism is an issue, racism is an issue, trans-phobia is an issue. Each have a right of its own. Feminist do not just exist in first world countries, they are also in the third world countries you speak of "whining about sexism".

There are also people in those countries whining about feminists whining about sexism, which sounds all too familiar
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So from what I've got from your statement is that women exist only as sex objects and will only be sex objects as long as the dress in an unconventional style, and that if women get raped then its their fault instead of the one, you know, RAPING HER. Its not a matter of teaching women how not to get raped its teaching men not to rape. Have you ever thought that women dress the way they do because they like that with no sexual agenda in mind. If she wants to be more revealing more power to her. And tell me what of those men who go out shirtless huh what about them are you going to tell them to put a shirt on. NO and you know why its because you have a double standard.

This text is some of the most misogynistic filth I have ever seen. It not only is a rape apologist, but also ignores the legitimate struggle women go through every day. Have you ever thought that the reason most women aren't in positions of authorities is because maybe those men at the top wanna keep women down. Also Get Money Disregard Females is the most down right offensive thing I have heard on here. Scratch that third most offensive. Female value goes down as they age and Men have money, women have vaginas are respectively the second and first most offensive thing on here. And another thing "women have to disregard their rights to have children" are you serious. If a women wants to have a family and be a business women than she has a right to. She shouldn't have to get her tubes tied of such if she wants a high paying job. Your post is garbage and you sir a misogynistic to the core.

Also I find it kind of funny that you spout this misogynistic rant while having a female as your avatar. If you are so anti-women change it to a man or something, but you wont because, again you see women as sex objects. They are objects and are meant to be treated as such not as functioning members of the human race.

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Yeah? And #YesAllWomen was filled with white, heterosexual woman from first world countries that wouldn't know oppression if it slapped them in the face. I saw people in there complaining about having to wear a dress code to fucking school, how privileged do you gatta be to complain about not being able to wear leggings to school? Girls in other countries are being circumcised, girls in other schools are even fucking denied education, women are killed for being raped, women in other countries have no damn rights what-so-ever. Do you honestly think you as a woman in a first world country is oppressed for being female when you have all your basic human rights? Really?

Why don't you try spending every day being oppressed? Cause, I'll assure you it will open your damn eyes to just how fucking easy you have it. And before you come snapping at me about how I'm an 'oh so privileged male' I am a latino, transgender man who is forced to live with a super conservative family. I live every damn day with crippling dysphoria that used to make me barf up my food and starve myself, I live every damn day being forced to be a woman and be called a damn woman when I know I'm not one. I have to live with a terrible fear of even fucking going outside because I can barely stand people looking at me while I'm female. I break down often, I have panic attacks and can never seek any type of help because my parents do not believe in mental illnesses or anything like that and they would beat me if I came out to them as a transgender just like they've hurt me before because they've caught me trying to dress like a man. I've come out to people and had to deal with the fear of being 'correctively raped' by people I trusted, I've been threatened with impregnation, I've been sexually harassed for what I am. I can be denied medical help, I can be fired from work for being transgender. I can be denied stuff for being a transgender man. As a transgender man I have so many rights restricted. You as a cisgender woman in fucking America do not face being denied rights or anything of that manner based upon your gender. Do not compare your 'problems' to actual oppression.


Unfortunately, people are simply more attuned to the sorts of issues they themselves face themselves on a daily basis. A middle-class American typically doesn't fully sympathize with the plight of a child in, let's say Nigeria who is subjected to FGC and doesn't get an education, a White American typically won't complete relate to a Black American's experience, most women can't sympathize with men's experience (and vice versa), and cisgender folks will likely never truly understand how ridiculously difficult being transgender is.

There's a probable reason why you've seen so many changes as of late with how society treats the LGB demographic of America. Wanna guess why? Simple, it's due to the amount of exposure they've received in recent decades. Due to this, people have begun to sympathize with them recently, rather than view the view the fact that they're gay as something immoral those people need to repress. Exposure through the media and via personal relationships is really the only way that people such as this can depict to others the experience they find unfair or unequal to world in order to create change, given others outside their demographic can never truly experience it. In fact, this is probably exactly why you haven't seen as much change with the fourth letter just yet...positive media exposure has been extremely limited until around this millennium (as opposed to the 80s/90s for the LGBs).

But anyway, my point is...those cisgender women you mentioned are going to continue to fight, and they're justified in doing so. Everything is relative, and they feel that their experience is unequal to that of men in their own society due to the attitudes people hold and our culture and they want to resolve that HERE (keyword). On top of that, they are loud and therefore can be quite effective, unless they encounter resistance, which tbh I think they have been encountering a considerable bit of that lately.

On the other hand, for those in Nigeria, unless there is a huge amount of media coverage (international or within Nigeria) or intercommunication between people in the west and in Nigeria, simply won't see as much change. That distance between our worlds really puts things in perspective in a way, most people kind of live in a small bubble--it's a matter of human scale if anything and nothing to be ashamed of. After all,
A: People have the right to ask for things they feel won't harm anybody/are reasonable. Everyone wants to improve their lives and honestly, there is just nothing wrong with that if you can do so without causing harm.
B: How much is the plane ticket, and do you have the time to go there? To put it simply, you can't fight everyone's battles, so you deal with your own most of the time.

So, if you believe in god--I guess he's the one you should really flip off for making you trans and putting you in a really horrible familial situation for a trans person+causing all of these negative attitudes in society against trans people by ignorant people with whatever the hell caused it and what not, because damnit I plan to personally do exactly that myself if I ever met him/he proved his existence unless he had some really, really good excuse.

Or alternatively, don't bother getting angry, or use the energy from that anger to help make trans peoples lives better by making your plight known somehow. I'm not sure crunchyroll is the best place, but maybe you could do one of those transition vlogs on youtube or something or write a biography and maybe one day you might be like Laverne Cox on the cover of Time Magazine, only the first transman to manage that. Oh, and I would probably get out of that family situation if at all possible, when possible...you'll probably have more leverage to make them realize how difficult they've made your life and make amends once you're independent from them and they feel they really can't attempt to false their misguided beliefs on you anymore (hopefully then, love shall win out and they'll learn more about you and realize their mistakes).
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Posted 6/4/14

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But if you're gonna White Knight, at least give it some thought. Have you even approached an attractive female with aims of getting with her? I'm guessing no. Or you're the child of a single mother. Guess I could speculate for days on end... How about coming at with me with an argument instead of attempting to paraphrase my comments into hate speech.


I wanted to follow up on this.

I'm not sure what you mean by "getting with her." If you're referring to approaching a girl out of interest in possibly dating her, yes I have done that. If you're talking about trying to sleep with her, nope. I was not raised by a single mother, my family life was very stable in ordinary. To put N end to your speculation, I feel the way I do because I have a conscience. Simple as that.
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Jeez, I don't know why I keep coming back to this thread, someone on page one ticked me off royally, but I kept reading, then outerheaven139 and KidStealth made me laugh and restored my faith in humanity, then a day or two later, I came back, read the rest of the thread, now I'm royally ticked off again. Perhaps I'm a masochist or something. I do know that the super extreme feminists have me considering turning away from 3D and flying the "2D for life" flag for my own safety.
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So from what I've got from your statement is that women exist only as sex objects and will only be sex objects as long as the dress in an unconventional style, and that if women get raped then its their fault instead of the one, you know, RAPING HER. Its not a matter of teaching women how not to get raped its teaching men not to rape. Have you ever thought that women dress the way they do because they like that with no sexual agenda in mind. If she wants to be more revealing more power to her. And tell me what of those men who go out shirtless huh what about them are you going to tell them to put a shirt on. NO and you know why its because you have a double standard.

This text is some of the most misogynistic filth I have ever seen. It not only is a rape apologist, but also ignores the legitimate struggle women go through every day. Have you ever thought that the reason most women aren't in positions of authorities is because maybe those men at the top wanna keep women down. Also Get Money Disregard Females is the most down right offensive thing I have heard on here. Scratch that third most offensive. Female value goes down as they age and Men have money, women have vaginas are respectively the second and first most offensive thing on here. And another thing "women have to disregard their rights to have children" are you serious. If a women wants to have a family and be a business women than she has a right to. She shouldn't have to get her tubes tied of such if she wants a high paying job. Your post is garbage and you sir a misogynistic to the core.

Also I find it kind of funny that you spout this misogynistic rant while having a female as your avatar. If you are so anti-women change it to a man or something, but you wont because, again you see women as sex objects. They are objects and are meant to be treated as such not as functioning members of the human race.



Thank you for saying this! When I read this earlier, I truly felt sick to my stomach, and could not even fathom responding. Thank you for responding back to this person. Thank you. Thank you.
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