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What is the difference between pride and arrogance, in your opinion?
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Posted 6/3/14
Pride is being aware of true greatness, but arrogance is this but in a hurtful way. I'm prideful in my soccer abilities, but im not arrogant enough to say im better than Messi or (bad Pride) tell my friends that im better than Messi. This is what i think the difference is.
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PretearHimeno wrote:

For me, pride is when you acknowledge your own greatness, not fawn over it, acknowledge it. When you constantly jerk off over how awesome you are (excuse my crudeness) that's arrogance. What I can't stand the most are douchey humble brags. It's arrogance in passive aggressive form.


I know what you mean, but i'd think that someone that is proud of something isn't necessarily a " greatness" , it can be something viewed as a flaw or a nationality for example, i think that arrogance can come in many ways, being overly proud of anything can be viewed as arrogance i guess.

bonus question: I don't think there's anything wrong with being proud of something you accomplished, i do think it is very silly that most people are proud of things they never had any contribution on, like being proud of your nationality, or proud of a sports team, i personally don't like being proud of something i love doing or am doing because for me it would mean that i'm done with it so by not being proud i'm constantly trying to improve rather than settle with how things are.
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PretearHimeno wrote:

For me, pride is when you acknowledge your own greatness, not fawn over it, acknowledge it. When you constantly jerk off over how awesome you are (excuse my crudeness) that's arrogance. What I can't stand the most are douchey humble brags. It's arrogance in passive aggressive form.


I know what you mean, but i'd think that someone that is proud of something isn't necessarily a " greatness" , it can be something viewed as a flaw or a nationality for example, i think that arrogance can come in many ways, being overly proud of anything can be viewed as arrogance i guess..


Those too are examples of something one might feel pride over. i just used "greatness" as more of a general term.
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i think the difference in pride and arrogance is-

pride is to show you believe in yourself.

arrogance is to think you are better/more then something/someone.

i also believe arrogance is what starts battles/wars

but that is just my opinion if you think differently that's great

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Pride is wanting to do your best, work your hardest at something, for various reasons.

Arrogance is making sure other people know you're doing that.
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Posted 6/3/14

PretearHimeno wrote:


outerheaven139 wrote:


PretearHimeno wrote:

For me, pride is when you acknowledge your own greatness, not fawn over it, acknowledge it. When you constantly jerk off over how awesome you are (excuse my crudeness) that's arrogance. What I can't stand the most are douchey humble brags. It's arrogance in passive aggressive form.


I know what you mean, but i'd think that someone that is proud of something isn't necessarily a " greatness" , it can be something viewed as a flaw or a nationality for example, i think that arrogance can come in many ways, being overly proud of anything can be viewed as arrogance i guess..


Those too are examples of something one might feel pride over. i just used "greatness" as more of a general term.


Oh okay gotcha, what if someone acknowledges something about themselves that is completly delusional, would that be arrogance ?
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Posted 6/3/14

outerheaven139
Oh okay gotcha, what if someone acknowledges something about themselves that is completly delusional, would that be arrogance ?


It's the same premise really only sadder. Like that one tone deaf friend that makes you listen to how "awesome" she is at karaoke.

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outerheaven139 wrote:


PretearHimeno wrote:


outerheaven139 wrote:


PretearHimeno wrote:

For me, pride is when you acknowledge your own greatness, not fawn over it, acknowledge it. When you constantly jerk off over how awesome you are (excuse my crudeness) that's arrogance. What I can't stand the most are douchey humble brags. It's arrogance in passive aggressive form.


I know what you mean, but i'd think that someone that is proud of something isn't necessarily a " greatness" , it can be something viewed as a flaw or a nationality for example, i think that arrogance can come in many ways, being overly proud of anything can be viewed as arrogance i guess..


Those too are examples of something one might feel pride over. i just used "greatness" as more of a general term.


Oh okay gotcha, what if someone acknowledges something about themselves that is completly delusional, would that be arrogance ?


i believe that can be called arrogance just like in some anime some character's think that they are god/strongest. so i believe that can be considered arrogance.
Posted 6/3/14

outerheaven139 wrote:

Oh okay gotcha, what if someone acknowledges something about themselves that is completly delusional, would that be arrogance ?


Answered your own question there. They're delusional. Arrogance involves having an inflated sense of self importance, whether that's baseless or not is a different question.
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it depends on what kind of pride because pride is a sin and arrogance but either way pride and arrogance is not and pride is mostly likely thinking alot of yourself and arrogance is kinda like the same thing so not much
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notevenstar wrote:


outerheaven139 wrote:

Oh okay gotcha, what if someone acknowledges something about themselves that is completly delusional, would that be arrogance ?


Answered your own question there. They're delusional. Arrogance involves having an inflated sense of self importance, whether that's baseless or not is a different question.




but on their perspective, they're just being proud, so being perceived as proud and arrogant, isn't it all a matter of who's eyes are looking at said person ?
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Posted 6/3/14

PretearHimeno wrote:


outerheaven139
Oh okay gotcha, what if someone acknowledges something about themselves that is completly delusional, would that be arrogance ?


It's the same premise really only sadder. Like that one tone deaf friend that makes you listen to how "awesome" she is at karaoke.



Oh you mean my mom ? yeah that's pretty sad.
Posted 6/3/14

outerheaven139 wrote:


notevenstar wrote:


outerheaven139 wrote:

Oh okay gotcha, what if someone acknowledges something about themselves that is completly delusional, would that be arrogance ?


Answered your own question there. They're delusional. Arrogance involves having an inflated sense of self importance, whether that's baseless or not is a different question.




but on their perspective, they're just being proud, so being perceived as proud and arrogant, isn't it all a matter of who's eyes are looking at said person ?


They could see themselves as the most humble of beings but that would not change the fact that their perception is unfounded in reality. Saying it's all dependent on the onlooker means you'd never be able to determine anything. If the majority think that person is arrogant, they most likely are.
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I agree that you can determine a lot of things with a bit of common sense regardless of people's perspective on the subject, but, for example, like i was saying earlier, if a person is super proud of something they have no contribution for, like a nationalist, from my eyes, i just see someone that is proud of being born on a different patch of dirt that is determined by imaginary lines that we created, called countries, but wouldn't that be something actually good and awesome to be proud of in the majority's eyes ? i understand that saying " it's all relative depending on who's eyes are seeing it" is a really vague and generic statement and could be applied for almost any dicussion, but isn't that the case here ?
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I agree that you can determine a lot of things with a bit of common sense regardless of people's perspective on the subject, but, for example, like i was saying earlier, if a person is super proud of something they have no contribution for, like a nationalist, from my eyes, i just see someone that is proud of being born on a different patch of dirt that is determined by imaginary lines that we created, called countries, but wouldn't that be something actually good and awesome to be proud of in the majority's eyes ? i understand that saying " it's all relative depending on who's eyes are seeing it" is a really vague and generic statement and could be applied for almost any dicussion, but isn't that the case here ?


Oh I wouldn't say being a nationalist or patriotic is arrogance. I mentioned earlier it was about self importance, self being the key word, so yep would agree with you when you say nationalism is pride. Nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from, as long as it doesn't manifest itself as a superiority complex.
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