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What is the difference between pride and arrogance, in your opinion?
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Posted 6/3/14

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I agree that you can determine a lot of things with a bit of common sense regardless of people's perspective on the subject, but, for example, like i was saying earlier, if a person is super proud of something they have no contribution for, like a nationalist, from my eyes, i just see someone that is proud of being born on a different patch of dirt that is determined by imaginary lines that we created, called countries, but wouldn't that be something actually good and awesome to be proud of in the majority's eyes ? i understand that saying " it's all relative depending on who's eyes are seeing it" is a really vague and generic statement and could be applied for almost any dicussion, but isn't that the case here ?


Oh I wouldn't say being a nationalist or patriotic is arrogance. I mentioned earlier it was about self importance, self being the key word, so yep would agree with you when you say nationalism is pride. Nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from, as long as it doesn't manifest itself as a superiority complex.


Eh you're right, i guess i'm overthinking it, at the end of the day, if the person is being douchey about it you can call it arrogance regardless of what they're being proud of, although i do see a problem with being patriotic, in my opinion it sort of hinders the vision of looking at everyone as just human beings and nothing else, for some reason i think that getting rid of gay parades, and black history month, and day of the national flag, and anything that labels you into a specific group would bring a lot more empathy in the world, but that's a completly different subject that has nothing to do with the thread so

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The operative difference between pride and arrogance, to me, is whether you're vocal about it. You can be proud of something you had no part in, and you can be arrogant about something that you legitimately are amazing at. Your actual accomplishments or abilities aren't important for the purpose of this distinction: pride is keeping it yourself, and arrogance is telling people about it all the time.

I don't consider pride to be the admirable thing that everybody seems to credit it as. Pride gives you confidence, which makes you want to act. The results of that action can be good or bad. It's simply an agonist, and there's no reason to believe that change is inherently better than stasis. Pride's just an emotion when it comes down to it, and it's capable of all the good and bad of every other emotion. Arrogance, however, is always bad, because the long and short of it is that arrogance is just pride with the added feature of annoying people.
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SaintJames012 wrote:

on a positive aspect:
Pride is knowing your strengths in something and acknowledging it as part of your identity
in a positive light, pride causes people to strive to perfect their craft, and boast about high up they have climbed the mountain while still pushing forward
Arrogance is the belief that you are the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be
in a positive light, arrogance causes people to lose their seriousness, often believing they have achieved perfection, when anyone who has strived for something knows that perfection is impossible

On a negative aspect:
Pride is like suicide, the only thing that kills you is yourself.
people who are in need refuse help, or people implode when something does not fall in their favor or if their hard work does not pay off immediately
Arrogance is like Homicide, it causes the people around you to go out of their way to kill you.
People refuse defeat, often pinning it on someone else, or resort to cheating or rage when they are defeated by someone who is better.

In the nutshell:
Pride causes people to want to see you fail, Arrogance causes people to stomp you down.



Interesting comment.
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the only difference between pride and arrogance is perspective. What you construe as pride can easily be construed by others as arrogance. Sometimes, the inability to appreciate other vantage points can make you out to be a dick. I try to keep what pride I have under wrap so as not to provide any reason to be passed off as arrogant.
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plaidypuss wrote:

the only difference between pride and arrogance is perspective. What you construe as pride can easily be construed by others as arrogance. Sometimes, the inability to appreciate other vantage points can make you out to be a dick. I try to keep what pride I have under wrap so as not to provide any reason to be passed off as arrogant.


It's pretty much how one would look at it.
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oooh that's a toughie. i guess, you can take pride in your work, but when you say your work is better than everyone else's and you refuse to accept critique then that is when it is arrogance..
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Posted 9/26/14

Sogno- wrote:

oooh that's a toughie. i guess, you can take pride in your work, but when you say your work is better than everyone else's and you refuse to accept critique then that is when it is arrogance..


Ah, I see.
Posted 9/26/14 , edited 9/26/14

That's a good question. Pride and arrogance go hand in hand, but are not the same thing. Pride is feeling good about your ablities. Arrogance is pride on crack. Theologically speaking, Pride was the first sin, the cause of lucifer's fall.

To a point, its ok to feel good about your work. Just know your limits
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Posted 9/26/14

Zeboim wrote:


That's a good question. Pride and arrogance go hand in hand, but are not the same thing. Pride is feeling good about your ablities. Arrogance is pride on crack. Theologically speaking, Pride was the first sin, the cause of lucifer's fall.

To a point, its ok to feel good about your work. Just know your limits



Thank you.

Yeah. Lucifer's sin is pride while Satan is wrath...right?
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I'd say arrogance is misplaced pride, either your proud of something you didn't actually do or you have an excess amount of pride about something you did do.

To give an example: It's okay for me to be proud of myself for graduating form college, but it would be arrogant for me to go around thinking it makes me smarter/better than other people.
Posted 9/26/14 , edited 9/26/14
All I know is that they say pride was the first, and that was in his fall.

"The Seven Deadly Sins" are largely anecdotal.


Since lucifer is satan with a new fashion designer, and self-appointed "source of all evil", he does all 7 every 5 minutes, 24/7 365/year

Sorry
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Posted 9/26/14

ChinaCat89 wrote:

I'd say arrogance is misplaced pride, either your proud of something you didn't actually do or you have an excess amount of pride about something you did do.

To give an example: It's okay for me to be proud of myself for graduating form college, but it would be arrogant for me to go around thinking it makes me smarter/better than other people.



Makes sense.
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Posted 9/26/14

Zeboim wrote:


All I know is that they say pride was the first.


Okay then.
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Posted 9/26/14
Pride is beaming over something you can do well. Arrogance is beaming over something you can't do well and just got lucky trying. Pride is knowing you're the best at what you do by other's comments. Arrogance is thinking you're the best at what you do in your own mind.
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