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This really interests me, and I genuinely want to know more about your opinion. From your profile you seem to be perfectly comfortable with anime featuring a female cast, slice of life scenarios, light humour and friendship, yet the image conveyed by MLP just doesn't seem to click with you at all. Hmm...

I'm not sure I get what you mean with the art thing, don't think I've seen people imprint the characteristics of MLP characters onto existing anime characters. Do you have any examples? Either way this sounds exactly like the opposition anime fans seem to have towards 'creative penetration' into what they like by the bronies, which I mentioned in the OP. I totally geek out about sociological stuff like this.


Well, sadly I can't exactly meet your expectations of a well thought out opinion, since like I said, I know nothing of the show more than the masses do. So naturally, I can't give a fully accurate opinion on it. But from what I've seen of the series around; screenshots, fan-made videos, fanart, etc., it seems to me like the series takes friendship too lightly. Sure, most slice of life series are like that, but just from a frame of one I can tell how the characters care for each other, meanwhile I don't feel that from MLP pics at all. It may just be that the artist just simply sucks at depicting things as they want to tho, since once again, I have not tried the show itself.

You really haven't? They're everywhere around Google images(yeah, bad pic hunting site, I know. Just use it when I'm lazy). I just search for pics of an Anime, characters, or pair; and those pony works are always around to bug me. I don't have any examples to give myself, like I stated before, I'd rather avoid seeing them, so there's no way I'd search for them directly.
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While I am a fan of the show and while I understand that surprise surprise not everyone is going to agree on what shows are good or not, I often find excuses for hating the show and/or the fans annoying and often weak arguments

People get all offended when they see pony crossovers fan art yet you make any anime crossover and people freaking love it
People think that it's amazing when someone takes an anime opening and puts it to a different anime but a brony does that with MLP and suddenly they're shaming the fandom
People make all sorts of sexualized fan art of anime that both young and older viewers watch and the one out of 15 bronies does that with a pony and suddenly all bronies are pedos

Watching MLP has helped me make new friends and deepen other friendships, and I know all kinds of different people who are big fans of the show and don't match what people claim about them at all.
I understand that I won't ever convince every human to start liking MLP and frankly I'm not going to bother trying, but hey every other anime fan out their try to stop convincing me to watch Bleach and I won't tell you to watch MLP

Edit: And for the record I do not like over sexualized fan art, in anime or MLP
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Yeah, it's because of how much people, like me, who like anime are looked down on, that I don't give fans of MLP the same treatment. If you want to watch a show about ponies, go the fuck ahead. I won't judge your entire character on you watching one bloody TV show. I'm even into hentai, so I also know about the sexualisation of characters that aren't even real (not that I'm saying all anime fans like hentai, or all pony fans like pony porn). I don't watch MLP, personally, but if people enjoy watching it then I'll be the last person to cast judgement. Anyone who judges a person based solely on what sort of shows they like is a fucking moron, simple as that. Yeah there's the creepy shit out there where pony stuff is involved, but then there is for anime as well, and that creepy stuff isn't representative of an entire fanbase's interests. Though I wouldn't say MLP is comparable to all non-action anime. Action alone doesn't make me want to watch something unless that action is really bloody good. Just because an anime doesn't have action doesn't mean it can't be dark or include very mature or touchy themes, otherwise you could find yourself comparing the majority of Garden of Sinners to MLP which would be nonsensical and a waste of everybody's time. At the end of the day, so long as you don't try and force your love of something on me, especially not repeatedly, I won't hate you. There are bigger things to complain about, than whether someone of a more adolescent age likes cartoon ponies.
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Posted 6/4/14 , edited 6/4/14

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Well, sadly I can't exactly meet your expectations of a well thought out opinion, since like I said, I know nothing of the show more than the masses do. So naturally, I can't give a fully accurate opinion on it. But from what I've seen of the series around; screenshots, fan-made videos, fanart, etc., it seems to me like the series takes friendship too lightly. Sure, most slice of life series are like that, but just from a frame of one I can tell how the characters care for each other, meanwhile I don't feel that from MLP pics at all. It may just be that the artist just simply sucks at depicting things as they want to tho, since once again, I have not tried the show itself.

The characters actually really do care for each other, though they don't start out particularly close given how different they are, and their bonding is quite gradual and not as dramatic as in...well...drama animes. So while I can see where you're coming from, I would be cautious in judging the themes of any show as good or bad based on a couple pictures, especially if they're fan ones! :P


You really haven't? They're everywhere around Google images(yeah, bad pic hunting site, I know. Just use it when I'm lazy). I just search for pics of an Anime, characters, or pair; and those pony works are always around to bug me. I don't have any examples to give myself, like I stated before, I'd rather avoid seeing them, so there's no way I'd search for them directly.

rofl, just google'd "Asuka Pony" and there we have it. Not my cup of tea, but I'm really interested with how it gets to people in such a way. Really think I'm onto something with this "creative penetration" thing :D

It seems that people who dislike MLP or its fans abhor the prospect of things they love being "dirtied" by the grasping hands of brony artists. I think Squall is onto something too - everyone does these kind of crossovers, yet it really does seem to be the prejudice against MLP fans that makes it so infuriating when it's done by them.


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Though I wouldn't say MLP is comparable to all non-action anime. Action alone doesn't make me want to watch something unless that action is really bloody good. Just because an anime doesn't have action doesn't mean it can't be dark or include very mature or touchy themes, otherwise you could find yourself comparing the majority of Garden of Sinners to MLP which would be nonsensical and a waste of everybody's time. At the end of the day, so long as you don't try and force your love of something on me, especially not repeatedly, I won't hate you. There are bigger things to complain about, than whether someone of a more adolescent age likes cartoon ponies.

Yeah I agree, I just lacked an easy term for the slice-of-life light stuff I'm talking about and got lazy. Very reasonable points IMO, though I wish people who genuinely despise MLP or the fandom would speak up, because I've seen plenty of comments of the type before and want to get to the bottom of this animosity.
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I myself, am not a fan of MLP. But i dont see the problem with people who like it. To be honest, there is nothing wrong with liking any form of animated media. To each their own. There are certain aspects of the really hardcore MLP fans that creep me out, (some of them being sexually attracted to horses) but the same can be said for "Lolicons" who want to pillage the poopers of 4 year olds. Each community has their ups and downs, but they should not be judged by the few idiotic and mentally unstable people in the community. Anime a wonderful form of media, that truly allows the creators to express their desires and idea's in a well thought out show. Same goes for MLP. MLP is a decent show, i myself am not a fan, but i understand why people enjoy it. The show tends to preach about love and caring and being proud of who you are. I dont even understand why people hate on either community.
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Apologies, if i said anything offensive in my post ^, im running on 3 hours of sleep at work on my lunch break, so i cant really think of a more educated way to put my opinions xD
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No that came across fine, though to be fair to the much-maligned lolicons and cloppers you mentioned, I'm pretty sure they don't find RL horses and RL children remotely attractive, if I understand them correctly. It's the 2D world, where the lines between gender, race (human, humanoid/furry, alien, animal etc.) and age blur seamlessly and most of the differences are just minor, surface ones - meaning the differences between an animated teenager, adult, catgirl, alien, pony and what-not will be really superficial. So yeah, while I don't share in their tastes I'm not nearly as grossed-out about it as with zoophilia, or as condemning as with pedophilia.
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It doesn't really bother me if someone watches MLP and makes crossovers of anime and MLP, but the hentai understandably makes me cringe (I react the same to hentai of other cartoon/anime characters who are canonically innocent). Last year, I made myself sit through the MLP movie and some episodes of the show. Though there are bits and pieces that crack me up, the overall atmosphere bores me and I find the series too predictable. Nonetheless, I find that I like the art, despite having to put on my "cutesy glasses."

Anime characters being turned into ponies doesn't upset me, and certainly not the reverse. I like to see characters of many types of shows and genres put into different styles.

By the way, I have no intention of "growing out" of watching children's shows, be they live-action, anime, or cartoon.

Bonus Notes:
I see alot of parallels between MLP and Digimon, though the latter is a bit darker and more action-oriented.
Rainbow Dash's abilities are badass when they're scientifically explained by 'ScrewAttack!'

Rainbow Dash versus Starscream Death Battle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8
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Ouch, if you started with EQG and the episodes in chronological order, you just inadvertedly ate a shite sandwich. If not then I'll eat my words, but EQG was no good. I'm surprised about the cutesy part though, as most moe anime girls come across as a lot more cutesy than MLP characters. At least, the incredibly high-pitched voices, blushing and generally being silly, shy, vulnerable and a tad dim-witted or kooky in personality tend to make that the case.

God this thread is making me look like a fanboy.
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Ouch, if you started with EQG and the episodes in chronological order, you just inadvertedly ate a shite sandwich. If not then I'll eat my words, but EQG was no good. I'm surprised about the cutesy part though, as most moe anime girls come across as a lot more cutesy than MLP characters. At least, the incredibly high-pitched voices, blushing and generally being silly, shy, vulnerable and a tad dim-witted or kooky in personality tend to make that the case.

God this thread is making me look like a fanboy.


I watched alot of The Land Before Time, Balto, Pokemon, Digimon, Timon and Pumba, etc. before moe really took off. I didn't watch much anime until middle and high school. Watching primarily animal/animal-like characters during my younger years and having had a mid-90's MLP toy until I was in 1st or 2nd grade makes me associate animal characters with "cutesy" more that humanoid ones.
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Considering my best friend is a brony, I think I should tread carefully on this topic
Anyway, to start of, there are huge differences between anime and MLP, most notable is the targeted age group. Now, anime has many different genres and philosophies, so of course not all fall under this category, but anime is generally for more mature age groups, and (sorry girls) usually males. Now...on the flip side, MLP sure as hell looks like it's targeted group is young females, but considering I have never seen it before, perhaps I am wrong.
For example, as a young male, I would feel extremely uncomfortable and displeased with watching a magical girl anime with a targeted audience of young girls. And while I know there are people who enjoy it, and while I respect their tastes and deciions, I do not find it any less strange.

Next...the dreaded fandoms. While I am sure we can all agree there is horrible, horrible things created by both anime and MLP fans, we must still compare the two. Now, the majority of "unmentionable" things created by fans of anime generally consist of a humanoid figure participating in..uh..sinful acts, which is understandable for someone to be attracted to which because it is something of a human. Now, I cannot understand AT ALL the attractions the MLP fandom has to the characters of their show being portrayed in similar acts, because their are animals, and not humans, so there should not be any unconscious attraction taking place.

So...in summary while I respect the decisions of others to enjoy what they enjoy, it does not make it any less strange.
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I enjoy the show enough, I haven't been keeping up with it as of late but I think the fandom is my favorite part. I haven't really come across much of the darker side of the fandom that non bronies seemed to be entrenched in for some reason. The community puts out allot of cool stuff like art, music, animations, etc and I think that is what I really gravitate to.
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Why are they even compared.

Isn't MLP just one show? Anime has thousands of different shows (not to mention manga).

I would say it's probably easier to "transform" someone into an anime fan than it is into an MLP fan.

I don't really know though since I'm rather uninformed. There's really no reason for me to watch MLP since I can just get the same enjoyment out of anime.

Also I assume it's a lot easier to defend anime. You can show people shows that are clearly for adults and clearly for teens no question.

It might not be so clear, but isn't MLP meant for children?

These are just the differences that I see. I have no interest in MLP but I also have no clue why anime fans and MLP fans butt heads.
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Fair do's. The preacher in me is still hoping you got to watch more than Equestria Girls and the first two episodes of FiM.


jordancharacter wrote:

Considering my best friend is a brony, I think I should tread carefully on this topic
Anyway, to start of, there are huge differences between anime and MLP, most notable is the targeted age group. Now, anime has many different genres and philosophies, so of course not all fall under this category, but anime is generally for more mature age groups, and (sorry girls) usually males. Now...on the flip side, MLP sure as hell looks like it's targeted group is young females, but considering I have never seen it before, perhaps I am wrong.
For example, as a young male, I would feel extremely uncomfortable and displeased with watching a magical girl anime with a targeted audience of young girls. And while I know there are people who enjoy it, and while I respect their tastes and deciions, I do not find it any less strange.

Forgive me for not being clear enough, but as I said to Blackout, "non-action anime" is a placeholder term I'm using to discuss a large amount of anime that isn't violent or romantic. I can understand why you would feel that way while watching such a show, as it's natural given our upbringings. I myself spent the first half-dozen episodes of MLP blushing and feeling confused as to how I could be watching whenever the theme song came on (très girly). If I was 17 as you are I probably wouldn't have gotten that far tbh, as my tastes were more rigidly defined, but I stuck with it because I was intrigued, and gradually opened up to the notion of liking a show meant for such a different demographic.

Beneath the surface MLP is similar in essence to a Disney movie (why do people not have as much of an issue with dudes liking Frozen, actually?) or a good slice of life anime, both thematically and stylistically. Basically, I agree with it being strange that in principle a show directed at young girls becomes so popular with as many adults (male and female alike) and would definitely have agreed with you back when I hadn't tried it and so was speaking in ignorance (I was an anti-brony). That being said, giving the content a good go is unfortunately the only possible way of realizing that it's not an unfathomable thing for adults to like.


Next...the dreaded fandoms. While I am sure we can all agree there is horrible, horrible things created by both anime and MLP fans, we must still compare the two. Now, the majority of "unmentionable" things created by fans of anime generally consist of a humanoid figure participating in..uh..sinful acts, which is understandable for someone to be attracted to which because it is something of a human. Now, I cannot understand AT ALL the attractions the MLP fandom has to the characters of their show being portrayed in similar acts, because their are animals, and not humans, so there should not be any unconscious attraction taking place.

Well that's kind of what I was getting at with my comment above. When it comes to animated characters, they're all basically people with varying levels of physical divergence from what real people look like. In this case, I think people will be interested in the characters more than in the...four-leggedness...or the hooves or whatever. Believe it or not the characters of MLP, unlike those of anime, have incredibly un-erotic forms :D

And as Pongo infers, it's unfortunate that with MLP the erotica tends to be what captivates non-bronies the most, far more it should/does with other fandoms
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Posted 6/4/14 , edited 6/4/14

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Why are they even compared.

Isn't MLP just one show? Anime has thousands of different shows (not to mention manga).

Mentioned this in the OP. It's the obvious distinction, though that's why I'm limiting my comparison to shows without violence.


I would say it's probably easier to "transform" someone into an anime fan than it is into an MLP fan.

I don't really know though since I'm rather uninformed. There's really no reason for me to watch MLP since I can just get the same enjoyment out of anime.

Also I assume it's a lot easier to defend anime. You can show people shows that are clearly for adults and clearly for teens no question.

That's actually really debatable. On my old forum I had to deal with people saying "anime is just weird" or "if you're a Western adult and you like anime there's something off about you". Show someone a slice of life anime and they might just feel vindicated in those prejudices, whereas the lack of 'Japanesey' tropes and pervert-humour in MLP would probably give it an edge in making it more approachable for an average Westerner.

Independently of any of this, show someone the OP's and they'll find both of them girly as fuck.


It might not be so clear, but isn't MLP meant for children?

I think the reason they made MLP: Friendship is Magic more mature than its predecessor MLP series, is because they wanted to make it more something that a whole family could watch and enjoy, even if the primary target (for selling toys and stuff) would be a young girl. Either way, I'll remind you that tons of cartoons/movies/books/games popular with adults are also directed at children.

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