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Posted 6/4/14
What do you think of psychopaths and please dont generalize cause obviously there are different kinds of them.

How would you know if one is a psychopath?
As an adult:
Prone to lying
Likes to decieve
Manipulative
Narcissistic
Pyromania

As a child(below 18)
Animal cruelty(torturing animals, dissecting, strangulation,etc)
Bed wetting
Socially awkward...
Experienced extreme abused during childhood years...
[antisocial personality disorder]

So ill ask again, what are your thoughts about psychopaths(i like calling them,RED FLOWERS,i dunno)??...

In any terms,but please do keep track of your language,.you know..forum rules..
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Posted 6/4/14 , edited 6/4/14
As you say, there are different kinds of them. Some of them are really crazy, and have done unforgivable things, but I'm sure that some with a few of above mentioned traits can be very useful for companies in the business world.
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Posted 6/4/14

JQuo wrote:

As you say, there are different kinds of them. Some of them are really crazy, and have done unforgivable things, but I'm sure that some with a few of above mentioned traits can be very useful for companies in the business world.


Those would be sociopaths, and yes, they can manipulate people very easily, i had a friend for 5 years that was a full on balls deep lying sociopath and he would just fuck girls over and steal people's shit, and trick people into breaking up with each other, all for the pure pleasure of it.
Posted 6/4/14

JQuo wrote:

As you say, there are different kinds of them. Some of them are really crazy, and have done unforgivable things, but I'm sure that some with a few of above mentioned traits can be very useful for companies in the business world.


If you mean the business world, well then thats normal, manipulate co-workers for promotion, lying to bosses cause of tardiness,narcissists..in my opinion thats somewhat normal..i mean..this is the Industry..but psychopaths have all the traits...they lack remorse..dont feel responsible for anything they did(and their very good at escaping or doing forensic countermeasure)...

But hey,

Its your opinion, and that counts..^____^
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Those would be sociopaths, and yes, they can manipulate people very easily, i had a friend for 5 years that was a full on balls deep lying sociopath and he would just fuck girls over and steal people's shit, and trick people into breaking up with each other, all for the pure pleasure of it.


First of all...

Calm down..

Second of all..

Breath...

Third of all, okay here i go...

Is your friend, a fan of fire? And i mean, intensely? Even if the fire is far or feet away, he cant take his eyes off it? . Try reading the dark triad and determine whether your friend is a sociopath(we cant judge without extensive observation right?)..continuing...and pleasure..yes..what you described might be a doing of a sociopath but you shoudl know that there is a criteria for calling or naming someone a sociopath..plus..their childhood is very disturbing and traumatic that makes the a sociopath..

But then again...its your opinion about your friend..no pressure,..^_____^
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Posted 6/4/14
Psychopaths are like people who do things because they know they could get away from it, right?
Thrill seekers by any chance.
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Posted 6/4/14 , edited 6/4/14

bhikiragi wrote:


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Those would be sociopaths, and yes, they can manipulate people very easily, i had a friend for 5 years that was a full on balls deep lying sociopath and he would just fuck girls over and steal people's shit, and trick people into breaking up with each other, all for the pure pleasure of it.


First of all...

Calm down..

Second of all..

Breath...

Third of all, okay here i go...

Is your friend, a fan of fire? And i mean, intensely? Even if the fire is far or feet away, he cant take his eyes off it? . Try reading the dark triad and determine whether your friend is a sociopath(we cant judge without extensive observation right?)..continuing...and pleasure..yes..what you described might be a doing of a sociopath but you shoudl know that there is a criteria for calling or naming someone a sociopath..plus..their childhood is very disturbing and traumatic that makes the a sociopath..

But then again...its your opinion about your friend..no pressure,..^_____^


I'm pretty calm, wtf ?

I disagree with you about having to have a disturbing childhood in order to become a socipath, and no, he's not a fan of fire,i am though, you could even say i'm a pyromaniac in denial, and i've talked to him and had social interactions with him basically everyday of the week for 5 years, sounds like plenty of obeservational material there, and what do you exactly mean by " there is a criteria for calling or naming someone a socipath" ? also, i know a lot of people that have had fucked up childhoods and they turned out the be the nicest people i know.
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I'm pretty calm, wtf ?

I disagree with you about having to have a disturbing childhood in order to become a socipath, and no, he's not a fan of fire,i am though, you could even say i'm a pyromaniac in denial, and i've talked to him and had social interactions with him basically everyday of the week for 5 years, sounds like plenty of obeservational material there, and what do you exactly mean by " there is a criteria for calling or naming someone a socipath" ? also, i know a lot of people that have had fucked up childhoods and they turned out the be the nicest people i know.


By disturbing childhood...i mean these people are really fucked up in their childhood...intense abuse, physical and psychological violence, rejection,abandonment either by their own parents(lemme guess..whoa re also well, screwed in some ways) or people who supposedly their CAREgivers, sociopaths who were foster kids(and wasnt treated very well). In terms of fire, kleptomania can be considered(somehow).

Really? Your a pyromaniac too??awesome...and do you have vivid imagination of setting fire on someone or some houses??

Going off topic there..

And by criteria, yes...sociopathy(clinically known as ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER) has its own criteria(7 of them) to be able to name a sociopath/psychopath, and there are essential characteristic that must be never missed and should always be present for someone whose a psychopath.

Screwed childhood and still nice? Oh sweet potato..you know..nice people(with that history) are badasses whose never been caught...jk...

Also,there are those people who are "ALMOST A PSYCHOPATH" they share traits with full time mind blown psychopaths but not all..
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Posted 6/4/14

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I'm pretty calm, wtf ?

I disagree with you about having to have a disturbing childhood in order to become a socipath, and no, he's not a fan of fire,i am though, you could even say i'm a pyromaniac in denial, and i've talked to him and had social interactions with him basically everyday of the week for 5 years, sounds like plenty of obeservational material there, and what do you exactly mean by " there is a criteria for calling or naming someone a socipath" ? also, i know a lot of people that have had fucked up childhoods and they turned out the be the nicest people i know.


By disturbing childhood...i mean these people are really fucked up in their childhood...intense abuse, physical and psychological violence, rejection,abandonment either by their own parents(lemme guess..whoa re also well, screwed in some ways) or people who supposedly their CAREgivers, sociopaths who were foster kids(and wasnt treated very well). In terms of fire, kleptomania can be considered(somehow).

Really? Your a pyromaniac too??awesome...and do you have vivid imagination of setting fire on someone or some houses??

Going off topic there..

And by criteria, yes...sociopathy(clinically known as ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER) has its own criteria(7 of them) to be able to name a sociopath/psychopath, and there are essential characteristic that must be never missed and should always be present for someone whose a psychopath.

Screwed childhood and still nice? Oh sweet potato..you know..nice people(with that history) are badasses whose never been caught...jk...

Also,there are those people who are "ALMOST A PSYCHOPATH" they share traits with full time mind blown psychopaths but not all..


I know what a disturbing childhood is like ... and humm, i don't have vivid imgination of setting people or houses on fire because it would come into conflict with hurting people which is something i'm not a fan of even in my head, i'm just mesmerized by the fire itself when i see it, i had a friend that his father was an abusive alcoholic piece of shit that beat his mom in front of us, never gave him anything, he had to come eat at my house, basically a living hell, and he's one of the most humble smartest human beings i know, i understand that there are some patterns that need to be looked at before calling someone a psychopath/socipath etc .. , but wouldn't you say that there's a lot more subjectiveness to it than just patterns and traits, like chemical imbalance, or just a brain that was wired differently ?
I was reading about this guy earlier that had brain surgery and he essentially became a pedophile, he couldn't help himself but look at pictures of naked children, and he would delete them and download them, and delete them and download again, constant struggle, so then the doctors said that the part of his brain that was removed, was some sort of a sexual filter on what you're attracted to.

but going back to my friend, wouldn't you say that lying for the sake of it, lacking ANY empathy, and completely disregard people's feelings to get where they want sociopathic traits ?
Posted 6/4/14 , edited 6/4/14



I know what a disturbing childhood is like ... and humm, i don't have vivid imgination of setting people or houses on fire because it would come into conflict with hurting people which is something i'm not a fan of even in my head, i'm just mesmerized by the fire itself when i see it, i had a friend that his father was an abusive alcoholic piece of shit that beat his mom in front of us, never gave him anything, he had to come eat at my house, basically a living hell, and he's one of the most humble smartest human beings i know, i understand that there are some patterns that need to be looked at before calling someone a psychopath/socipath etc .. , but wouldn't you say that there's a lot more subjectiveness to it than just patterns and traits, like chemical imbalance, or just a brain that was wired differently ?
I was reading about this guy earlier that had brain surgery and he essentially became a pedophile, he couldn't help himself but look at pictures of naked children, and he would delete them and download them, and delete them and download again, constant struggle, so then the doctors said that the part of his brain that was removed, was some sort of a sexual filter on what you're attracted to.

but going back to my friend, wouldn't you say that lying for the sake of it, lacking ANY empathy, and completely disregard people's feelings to get where they want sociopathic traits ?


yes, the brain plays a very important role in building personality,.,.psychopaths's brain section which govern the ability to feel anything is mostly damaged, and in that man's case he had a brain surgery so its not his will of choice exactly that he became a pedophile,can you imagine a part of your brain getting removed? I mean, who wouldnt get twisted a little...


Yes, lacking any empathy, decieving, and disregarding other people's feelings(most psychopaths will violate a person's right, literally,their right to speak(slash the throat,etc.)) are a trait of a psychopath and those are the essential traits only...maybe..maybe your friend is slightly psychopathic cause most of psychopaths go for the hunt(kill)..they have this uncontrollable urges that even their consciousness cant keep up.usually their serial killers.

Aww..you dont have vivid imagination?weird,cause i do,plus pyromania . One pyromaniacs ae distinct from arson...just looking or making fire for the purpose of euphoria, tension release while the other pyromaniac is for political or monetary gain..i.e setting a house on fire for insurance purposes...

And your friend who has an alcoholic father...its good that you help him,(your a good person)...and its common courtesy that kindness should be repayed by kindness too...equivalent exchange stuff...
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Oh okay, yeah i just find the whole subject very fascinating because we're starting to see more of this where people turn into gambling addicts or drug addicts or pedophiles just because of a medical procedure with a different intent, is it damaged ? that's interesting i thought it was something like, that part never grew or fully developed since they were born

Now that i think about it, he also used to beat animals, like kick dogs on the stomach for no absolute reason, so yeah, thank god i don't talk to him anymore

Ahh i see, maybe i'm just a little kid on the inside that wants to see shit being set on fire because it looks cool and i'm overthinking it haha never had heard about pyromaniacs that do it for political and monetary gains, that's crazy

I did the bare minimum, i think childhoods are something so damn important for a person's development and when someone has it completly ruined, i think some people try to live the rest of their life as fully and as drama free as possible to make up for the awful childhood, too bad it's not everyone.

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Oh okay, yeah i just find the whole subject very fascinating because we're starting to see more of this where people turn into gambling addicts or drug addicts or pedophiles just because of a medical procedure with a different intent, is it damaged ? that's interesting i thought it was something like, that part never grew or fully developed since they were born

Now that i think about it, he also used to beat animals, like kick dogs on the stomach for no absolute reason, so yeah, thank god i don't talk to him anymore

Ahh i see, maybe i'm just a little kid on the inside that wants to see shit being set on fire because it looks cool and i'm overthinking it haha never had heard about pyromaniacs that do it for political and monetary gains, that's crazy

I did the bare minimum, i think childhoods are something so damn important for a person's development and when someone has it completly ruined, i think some people try to live the rest of their life as fully and as drama free as possible to make up for the awful childhood, too bad it's not everyone.



Yup,childhood's very important, happy memory starts there.
You wont know whose behind pyromanics whose intent is for monetary gain cause they dont want to be exposed and their money lost...
Good thing that you never talked to him anymore, you might not know whatll happen...^____^...
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I've met one person in my life who I'm sure would be diagnosed as a sociopath or psychopath. He had no concept of empathy and no ability to see a moral right or wrong to his actions. He wasn't in jail, because it is generally easy to do things lawfully and there are risks to not following the system that usually outweigh the rewards. Since he wasn't violent or unlawful, it took interacting with him over a long period of time to see that he had no concept of empathy or even morality. Over time you got to see that everything he did was calculated from the reward he would get over the risk he'd incur if the action didn't work out.

There are people who do things that harm themselves or society that have a psychological issue that comes from their childhood or circumstances they find themselves. These people aren't true socio/psychopaths. They have issues that can be dealt with and they often realize what they did was wrong. They have a compulsion to do it, but they generally know that compulsion is bad. A true socio/psychopath has something wrong with their brain that can't be fixed. They will never be able to empathize with others or have a sense of right or wrong. They can be trained to see that generally behaving with societal norms gives them the most gain with least risk, but the root of why they act the way they do can never be addressed.
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Posted 6/4/14 , edited 6/4/14

bhikiragi wrote:


JQuo wrote:

As you say, there are different kinds of them. Some of them are really crazy, and have done unforgivable things, but I'm sure that some with a few of above mentioned traits can be very useful for companies in the business world.


If you mean the business world, well then thats normal, manipulate co-workers for promotion, lying to bosses cause of tardiness,narcissists..in my opinion thats somewhat normal..i mean..this is the Industry..but psychopaths have all the traits...they lack remorse..dont feel responsible for anything they did(and their very good at escaping or doing forensic countermeasure)...

But hey,

Its your opinion, and that counts..^____^



Why would it be normal? Just because it happens a lot, does not mean its normal right?


Please tell me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the differences between a sociopath and psychopath are negligible when it comes to personality traits. The important difference is that psychopaths are easier to be found in the criminal world.

That does not mean that they are all murderers. I've seen many documentaries that show that psychopaths are attracted to certain jobs, the top positions in the business world. And we all know that many CEO's are active in the white collar crime. Many people are having this simple thought that psychopaths are only murderers, while there are possibly just as many psychopaths active in crime while being at top positions of companies, banks and whatsoever.
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outerheaven139 wrote:


JQuo wrote:

As you say, there are different kinds of them. Some of them are really crazy, and have done unforgivable things, but I'm sure that some with a few of above mentioned traits can be very useful for companies in the business world.


Those would be sociopaths, and yes, they can manipulate people very easily, i had a friend for 5 years that was a full on balls deep lying sociopath and he would just fuck girls over and steal people's shit, and trick people into breaking up with each other, all for the pure pleasure of it.


My question; why would you want to have a friend like that? Or did you end the friendship immidiately when you found out?
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