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Posted 7/20/14
The best way? Not execute anyone, there are more than enough cases of wrongful conviction to put an end to absolute solutions; you can't take it back when the state kills someone. Why would anyone want to give the government the power of life and death? Governments get enough things wrong to be trusted with this.
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Not to derail the thread or anything (lol) but...

I think it's kind of sad we're willing (in the US, I mean) to kill criminals, but not suffering loved ones. Human ones, I mean. We put pets down all the time. But Grandpa, suffering in pain as cancer eats him alive, lying on his deathbed just waiting, even praying, for the Reaper's scythe, is forced to lie there and suffer.

What the fuck, man?
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I don't think lethal injection is the answer. Have the guys pleasure plus-sized women without rest, and the women pleasure plus-sized men. I predict a 100% reduction in violent crimes should that law pass.
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Posted 7/26/14

tenchi22 wrote:

The best way? Not execute anyone


Agreed

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Posted 7/27/14
I oppose capital punishment, and so I also oppose lethal injections.

I was very happy to discover that international governments and suppliers of the materials typically used in lethal injection protocols had specifically acted to prevent those materials from being used for that purpose, and I was equally horrified to discover that state governments effectively began a campaign of pharmachemical experimentation on unwilling human subjects in response. I was further shocked to discover just how low the standards for personnel administering a chemical execution actually are, how improvised and unprofessional the protocols are for the event something goes awry, and how shady the investigation proceedings in the event of an execution gone awry have proven to be.

Naturally, I'm furious with those state governments which have proceeded to use midazolam in their execution protocols after having seen such protocols repeatedly go awry. With that in mind, I think that justice will win the day and this nonsense will be stopped once its perpetrators are made to account for themselves in court.
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Posted 7/28/14
People are free to choose what they do with their life (under normal mental state)...
Posted 7/28/14
gotta get those drugs right

MysticGon wrote:

I don't think lethal injection is the answer. Have the guys pleasure plus-sized women without rest, and the women pleasure plus-sized men. I predict a 100% reduction in violent crimes should that law pass.


umm..
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Posted 7/28/14
I hate using the argument "Well if you do that too you're just as bad as him!" but execution, better yet the law is a silly. Anything that involves harming a person should be illegal. Anything that doesn't harm people should be legal in order to preserve freedom. (It gets tricky in there because things can indirectly harm people, but that can also be used as a false precedent to outlaw certain tings.) We outlaw things like murder because we think they're morally wrong, and punish those who commit such crimes to deter criminals. Execution is murder protected by law. Law is decided by people. The question I have no right to answer is: "Is murder, protected by the name of law, as morally wrong as lawless murder" in other words? "Just because it's legal, is it right?" It isn't to say that criminals shouldn't be punished, but I do believe that we shouldn't do so disproportionately or without a just cause.

Told myself it was only gonna be a few sentences long. ^ Doesn't look like a few sentences to me.
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Lethal injection is no good. Execution is barbaric and primitive. I think rehabilitation is the only way- intensive psychoanalysis and daily treatment. So many of those people can be helped but many others would rather kill them to save money.
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Posted 8/1/14
I think a death sentence is preferable to life imprisonment.
But exiling is better still.
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Posted 8/16/14 , edited 8/16/14
i deal with lethal injections all the time...not on people but on animals. and its really rough to see sometimes. most of the time, theyre gone before the needle comes out of the vein. other times the side effects are seizures, muscle spasms, howling, and they may lose control of their bowls. and other times they just dont go

now i would assume this is the same with people. what it does, is that it stops the brain first so they are mentally gone. everything else is the body gasping for oxygen

not sure about the cost though. all medicines could be a lot cheaper...

electrocutions i think would be incredibly painful. same thing with a hanging.

now if it was someone i absolutely hated because they did something horrible to me or my loved ones, i would want them to suffer. lol that must sound horrible of me
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allierose wrote:

now i would assume this is the same with people. what it does, is that it stops the brain first so they are mentally gone. everything else is the body gasping for oxygen


Lately it has been quite a bit like the cases where howling and seizures ensue. One recent execution took hours to complete, with the inmate dying of heart failure.


not sure about the cost though. all medicines could be a lot cheaper...


Capital punishment is actually relatively expensive in and of itself. It costs a substantial amount of money to execute someone in the United States, with most of the costs occurring before and during trial (which is to say that the method of execution and appeals do not compose the bulk of the cost). To make matters worse, it's doubted by criminologists and has been empirically shown by analysis of the FBI's crime data that states with the death penalty (taken on the whole) actually have higher intentional homicide rates than those without it, so it's not even defensible as a more effective deterrent.

In other words, even if a method which has absolutely no material cost whatsoever (such as pushing people off of a tall cliff) were employed capital punishment would still be the more expensive sentencing option. It's counterintuitive, I know, but it's also true.


electrocutions i think would be incredibly painful. same thing with a hanging.


Both are exceedingly painful, and hanging carries the bonus of killing by strangling the inmate to death slowly if death isn't immediate.


now if it was someone i absolutely hated because they did something horrible to me or my loved ones, i would want them to suffer. lol that must sound horrible of me


I can understand that impulse, but this impulse is also exactly why an impartial (or at least as impartial as is possible) body ought to be the one which makes all final sentencing decisions. Victims ought never be allowed to determine their offenders' penalties, lest the justice system lose its impartiality.
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Posted 8/20/14
Some of the counties that have the death penalty:
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Botswana
China
Iran
Iraq
North Korea
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
USA
Is this the kind of company you want to keep?

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tenchi22 wrote:

Some of the counties that have the death penalty:
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Botswana
China
Iran
Iraq
North Korea
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
USA
Is this the kind of company you want to keep?


Don't forget Belarus! They don't even have the decency to bury the people they execute in a marked grave.
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Posted 8/20/14
I'm actually on the fence about the death penalty. Humane, in terms of the death penalty, is very subjective. However, I do support the death penalty in the most severe cases. One example would be the brutal gang rape and death of the woman in India who was given the name of "Nirbhaya." One can say that lethal injection is humane; at the same time, death by firing squad or guillotine can be considered more humane due to the "painless" factor.

Hanging's not really the most dignified way to go due to the issue of bowel movements. If I were to be executed and was allowed to choose the method in which I was going to die, it wouldn't be by hanging. There are plenty of issues to address. After you die, you'll end up soiling yourself. Also, there is the possibility that something goes wrong and you don't die but end up being paralyzed neck down for the rest of your life.

I'd probably prefer the firing squad; it makes me think of Maximillien I of Mexico. My American History professor, which my World History professor also confirmed, talked about how Maximillien casually took his sweet time smoking his final cigar. Afterward, he himself issued the order for the firing squad to execute him. My WH professor said that it was Maximillien's way of showing he had the fortitude to stare death in the eye.
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