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Post Reply How do you feel about anime being called cartoons?
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Posted 6/7/14

aeb0717 wrote:

I occasionally use "cartoon," myself. I only really use the term "anime" to let people know that I'm specifically talking about cartoons from Japan, but I sometimes just say "Japanese cartoons."

Western cartoons have a sad stereotype about being "kiddie," I view that as a result of people taking Western cartoons at face-value and not bothering to dig deeper.

Just remember that the first blatantly sexualized furry was Betty Boop during her early poodle days.

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It seems that there are stereotypes about Western cartoons having poor animation and flat characters, as well.


Agreed. And yet these same people complain when others stereotype them over anime.
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It upsets me when people say they're not the same thing and use words like "differences between the two"

One is a category of the other. Like a genre.

Cartoons are animated shows.
Anime is Japanese cartoons.

Cartoon is a broad term that encompasses anime + other stuff it seems you don't want to be associated with.

It's just as stupid as military personnel who don't like to be called "soldier" or "sailor" if it doesn't fit their military branch. Soldier is a word in our language that more or less describes ALL militants. However, I know many marines who would say the term only applies to Army-branch people (with "Army" itself being a broad term that could define multiple military branches, as defined by our language, but not accepted by those people). Similarly, a sailor is anyone who's sailing even if you're officially air force but you own a boat that you frequently take out all the time. That one should be a bit more obvious.

Ignorance hinders communication.
Hindered communication typically fails.
Failed communication leads to disputes between people.
Disputes lead to hate.
Hate leads to... suffering.
Ignorance is the path to the dark side.

But on a serious note, just READ, start with the dictionary if necessary, and learn vocabulary. Educate yourself, ppl.

Then you'll realize this is just as ridiculous as "How do you feel about JRPG's being called RPG's?"
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I always considered Anime as a genre than a cartoon and they have a way different style than cartoons here in Amereica. If I think of a cartoon the first thing comes to mind is kiddy cartoons. While as Anime has way better animation and usually go for more mature audiences, like late teen and up
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well i say watch elfen lied, aki sora, and school days then come back and tell me if they are cartoons.
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Anime is simply Japanese cartoons. However, I can understand people getting offended over this because the word "cartoon" has a very childish connotation to it. Also, if a country that is not Japan makes a cartoon that is similar to anime, it is still a cartoon, however it could be called an anime-style cartoon because of containing signature features that are associated with anime, i.e. huge eyes, the sweat drop, chibis, etc. However, not every anime has those, but those are just characteristics associated with "anime-style".
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I use anime and cartoon to differentiate styles and not where it was made. However, I only get upset with people when they use cartoon in reference to anime in a sort of, Dora the Explorer kind of way. Basically they are for kids and are completely immature. That's when I'll argue. (Most of the time these same people will have watched Archer .) I don't get offended, just flabbergasted at their ignorance and unwillingness to try the series I mention. Though most of their reasoning stems from fanservice and they think all anime is perverted.

I also have a pre-set list of anime for people to watch to prove it's not the crappy, immature and childish medium they assume it to be. I can tailor it to pretty much anybody since it's fairly flexible. (Though it's a bit light on the romance side of things sadly .)

These shows are:
Cowboy Bebop
Ghost in the Shell
Mushi-Shi
Spice and Wolf
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Samurai Champloo
Trigun
One Piece
Black Lagoon
Miyazaki movies (though I tend to put this in an entirely different class of their own lol)
Emma: A Victorian Romance
Aria: The Animation

I usually get the, oh I'll watch it at some point thing.
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I don't like them being called cartoons. Cartoons to me are animation that are zany and silly and aimed at children. Japanese animation has some of that, but a lot of it isn't like that. Cartoons to me are also zany and wild comedy shows aimed at teens and adults. Cartoons to me are things like Fairly Odd Parents, Family Guy, and Rugrats.

Anime is 'animation' to me. Some of it is like cartoons, but a lot of it has greater depth and complexity to it than cartoons, and I don't like anime, on the whole, being called mere 'cartoons'.
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Posted 6/7/14

zirito wrote:

Cartoons are animated shows.
Anime is Japanese cartoons.

Cartoon is a broad term that encompasses anime + other stuff it seems you don't want to be associated with.


I disagree. Animation is a broad term that encompasses anime + other things, like cartoons. Some Japanese animation are also Japanese cartoons, but not all of anime is cartoons (in fact, very much of it is not cartoons).

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Posted 6/8/14 , edited 6/8/14
Anime = Japanese Cartoons = Cartoons





QFT! Give this man a medal please.

/thread
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Anime has come to refer to Japanese animation. I wouldn't think of chinese cartoons as anime simply because it would be confusing and referring to anime as japanese animation would just be a hassle. Most people think of anime as japanese animation and don't include american (or other countries) cartoons in it, this is just the way it is. It's really annoying to me when people call avatar or rwby an anime. There's 0 reason to do so and it's just confusing. Not being an anime is by no means bad and in my opinion avatar the last airbender is better than a ton of anime. People trying to argue that avatar is an anime don't understand that all they're doing is saying "American cartoons can't be this good, and thus this is not an american cartoon but an anime." this statement wrongs every american cartoonist. There's no need to try to convince people your favorite show is an anime, just accept it for what it is or else you're taking away the spotlight of the real creators who see their work for what it is.

Anime are cartoons, but not all cartoons are anime.
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I found some of the posts in this thread to be quite hilarious. I started laughing on a previous page where there was a picture of looney tunes to represent American made shows and then a collab of various shounen series to represent the Japanese counterparts. This person obviously does not realize that looney toons would be referred to as anime if you were in Japan. Also, there are many different genre of anime, not all of them action-packed and targeted at boys/men. Anime and cartoon are BOTH generic terms for the same thing. While the shows the US are churning out now are really dumbed down, they use to have more balls. I remember watching a show called Ultraforce when I was younger. It was one of those superhero shows but it had some mature topics. I was quite incredulous when one of the main female characters actually died in a horrible way (radiation poisoning). I couldn't believe the censors would let something like that go back then. I don't think that show as on the air for very long.
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Posted 6/8/14 , edited 6/8/14
Doesn't really bother me. Ufufu :3
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Posted 6/8/14 , edited 6/8/14

Cabbitsama wrote:

I found some of the posts in this thread to be quite hilarious. I started laughing on a previous page where there was a picture of looney tunes to represent American made shows and then a collab of various shounen series to represent the Japanese counterparts. This person obviously does not realize that looney toons would be referred to as anime if you were in Japan. Also, there are many different genre of anime, not all of them action-packed and targeted at boys/men. Anime and cartoon are BOTH generic terms for the same thing. While the shows the US are churning out now are really dumbed down, they use to have more balls. I remember watching a show called Ultraforce when I was younger. It was one of those superhero shows but it had some mature topics. I was quite incredulous when one of the main female characters actually died in a horrible way (radiation poisoning). I couldn't believe the censors would let something like that go back then. I don't think that show as on the air for very long.


Don't worry. Not all hope is lost. Under the Red Hood (a 2010 film) is pretty dark.
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This post reminded me of this video, that provides a solid answer and reasoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRfv5a9QFu8
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Posted 6/8/14 , edited 6/8/14
When explaining to non-anime watchers it is only logcal that if they don't know the term 'anime' then you say Japanese cartoon as thats what it is. So I don't care.
But I also understand that anime means a lot to people (including me) and is very different to what people call cartoons, eg cartoons for children mostly while anime is very varied (most anime I have found is 15 rating)
... So yeah
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