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Shounen anime shows that have the potential to be a seinen anime
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George R. R. Martin is the author of the Game of Thrones books.
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George R. R. Martin is the author of the Game of Thrones books.


Well...I now feel like a idiot for not noticing that.
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A lot of Josei are branded as Seinen to increase viewership, it is a larger demographic.

On the same not, Seinens are called Shounen to boost the viewership. Additionally, shows before the 90s are typically Shounen, the only demographic from back then.


Fist of the North Star released and finished on Shounen Jump so you know.



Josei is underrated. Out of Shounen, Seinen, Josei, and Shoujo, it's Shounen that reigns supreme.


That is the kicker no? With the significantly higher viewership you would pick the magazines that would continued nue your series.

I remember not the name, but their was a Seinen placed into a Josei mag because nobody else would take it. They simply turned the bromance into a Yaoi romance and Bamn! Dude got himself a job for a few volumes or so.

I think we need better Genre identifiers, new ones.
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Wow. I agree.
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What about Fairy Tail? Looks like a typical shonen series, bascially lots of fighting and action, but there are elements that give it wider appeal. As with HxH and AoT.

There's shonen, and there's "strict" (or whatever you want to call it) shonen. Strict shonen tends not to be overly concerned with much else besides Proving Your Manliness Through One-on-One Combat.

Then there's shonen that border on seinen just because of maturity level. Shingeko no Kyojin is probably all seinen, it's pretty damn grim, not much humor or goofiness at all.
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Shingeki no Kyojin is all shounen even though it has seinen potential. The same surely goes for Hunter x Hunter because of the Chimera Ant Arc yet even before that. Fairy Tail don't really strike me all that much as a shounen anime with seinen potential to be honest. That is just my opinion alone.
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K-On is a seinen anime?


It's a story that really toys with your emotions in a good way.


K-On! (けいおん! Keion!?) is a Japanese four-panel comic strip seinen manga written and illustrated by Kakifly. The manga was serialized in Houbunsha's seinen manga magazine Manga Time Kirara between the May 2007 and October 2010 issues.

Yuyushiki is also serialized in the same manga magazine.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/search?q=Yuyushiki



"Thanks to the older target audience, seinen shows tend to be much more sophisticated and mature than their shonen counterparts. Much more attention is paid to the plot and the interaction between characters than to action and fights, which are the main attraction for most viewers, and the characters are well fleshed out. The latter trait often leads to confusion of seinen with Shōjo (Demographic) but the key difference is that seinen does not idealize romance, instead opting for more realistic and pragmatic approach to relationships. Realism is indeed the calling card of seinen shows, commonly earning them the acclaim for their depth and maturity and Multiple Demographic Appeal. "
From TVTropes.

Seinen does not necessarily mean Gore, Rape, and such themes.

On a side note, I love me my Manga Time Kirara and all it's branches. Most relaxing series out there serialized under just one name. Beautiful.
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Yeah, that's not really a good example of seinen potential. Fairy Tail has appeal beyond the shonen demographic, that's what i was getting at. But that's a different discussion.

The maturity and seriousness of the subject matter put Shingeki no Kyojin at least in the PG-13 and more like the R-rated category. I wouldn't consider it appropriate for 8 to 12 year olds at any rate, so it doesn't count as a shonen anime with seinen potential. It's already a seinen anime. The body count is too high for it to be considered shonen. Maybe you can convince me that it's a shonen in disguise, but at the very least can we agree that there is some disagreement on that one? =D

HxH is a great example of what you're talking about. Magi is too. But it's difficult to pin down exactly what it is that imbues them with "seinen potential". Hmmm...
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Hunter x Hunter has seinen potential not only for the gore but everything else as well. Shingeki no Kyojin has seinen potential just for the gore though yet that is only the anime. The manga is a bit different.

Just how I see it.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


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Bleach wants to go all GRR Martin so damn bad...



What does GRR stand for?



As someone mentioned, it's the author of the books in which Game of Thrones is based on. He's notorious for killing the good characters off and keeping the bad characters around.
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Nogara-san wrote:

It's a reference to George RR Martin, who wrote the books that Game of Thrones is based on.

He's famous for killing good and bad characters off.



He sure does a lot of killing off characters.

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Nogara-san wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:


Nogara-san wrote:

Bleach wants to go all GRR Martin so damn bad...



What does GRR stand for?



As someone mentioned, it's the author of the books in which Game of Thrones is based on. He's notorious for killing the good characters off and keeping the bad characters around.


I was too stupid to have known that sadly.
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This is actually a really great question. Let's see what I can come up with:

D. Gray Man probably tops the list. If this show was just a smidgen darker, it could have been legitimately compelling/great. Instead, it's just kind of generic. A shame, because there is HUGE potential in this show. Literally all it needs is some good theme work and bit more subtlety in the writing and it would have been great. I dunno if those things are necessarily "seinen," but I think you'd have a better chance of seeing them come out if it were.

After that, nothing really comes to mind. After all, freaking Kill Me Baby is classifed as seinen, so what does that demographic even mean?
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iblessall wrote:

This is actually a really great question. Let's see what I can come up with:

D. Gray Man probably tops the list. If this show was just a smidgen darker, it could have been legitimately compelling/great. Instead, it's just kind of generic. A shame, because there is HUGE potential in this show. Literally all it needs is some good theme work and bit more subtlety in the writing and it would have been great. I dunno if those things are necessarily "seinen," but I think you'd have a better chance of seeing them come out if it were.

After that, nothing really comes to mind. After all, freaking Kill Me Baby is classifed as seinen, so what does that demographic even mean?


Thank you, you're the only person besides me who's mentioned D Gray Man in this thread. Oh btw not to get into an argument with you argument or anything but after you watched the anime did you happen to read the manga? Not saying the adaptation was bad, I just look at the manga as the continuation of the story.
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iblessall wrote:

This is actually a really great question. Let's see what I can come up with:

D. Gray Man probably tops the list. If this show was just a smidgen darker, it could have been legitimately compelling/great. Instead, it's just kind of generic. A shame, because there is HUGE potential in this show. Literally all it needs is some good theme work and bit more subtlety in the writing and it would have been great. I dunno if those things are necessarily "seinen," but I think you'd have a better chance of seeing them come out if it were.

After that, nothing really comes to mind. After all, freaking Kill Me Baby is classifed as seinen, so what does that demographic even mean?


In the end, just what the general age range that the magazine it's serialized in caters to. Of course, each publisher is different, so there are most likely guidelines for specific things for them to be included in such and such magazine, but overall the content doesn't really define what demographic it goes into.

My primary example is Gunslinger Girl. Another is K-On!, both mentioned in previous posts.
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