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Post Reply Gurren Lagann: Do you prefer the first half or the second?
Arcsol 
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Honestly speaking I liked the first half a bit more, it had more character development and everything didn't seem tacked on compared to the first...not to mention it actually made sense compared to a bunch of cavedwellers drilling a hole in time and space and throwing galaxies.

I like the first arc ending better as well, if the foreshadowing from the spiral king wasn't in it it could have been a pretty decent ending. Not to mention the death at the end of the second irritated me, it just felt tacked on entirely for feels. Actually most of the deaths in that arc felt tacked on. The entire city revolting out of the blue touched a nerve for me as well after all simon did in the first.

I'm fine with characters dying, I'm fine with main characters dying, I'm fine with them dying at the end of a story. But when it lacks the proper foreshadowing and its thrown in there just for the hell of it it ruins a good story. Feel free to call me butthurt but from a writers standpoint I was overall irritated with it, so maybe I am.
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Posted 6/16/14 , edited 6/16/14
I enjoyed, The first half, or rather the first third. Once kamina dies(I knew it was coming so it didn't really effect me) the show is pretty meh, i applaud them for doing it, for killing off one of the main character's and the best character, and he kind of had it coming considering how reckless he was, it really impacts the other characters and allows them to grow, BUT hes was the best character and the show isn't as good after that.



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In Truth, I liked both equally. Despite all the craziness, TTGL has a very rational and realistic view of human nature, and I feel that both halves presented it well.
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Posted 6/16/14
Neither.

Some good concepts, some fun characters, some strong moments, but nothing to unify it all.


It's one of the few anime where I got pissed off watching it more than anything, because I felt like shouting "Hire an actual editor you morons!"


It's a general problem with anime and manga, but with TTGL it really ruined it.
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That's my point though, normally you don't timeskip to the protagonists later-on because it seals the horizons we imagine for them into a single defined route, and if this route doesn't lead anywhere then it's as if the characters just went off to live empty, meaningless lives from the moment they finally won. As if there was nothing else in their lives that was of any interest. You can't really give an honest insight into a character's life with little more than one line of dialogue or a single frame - in Yoko's case this is a weary smile, the kids we saw her teach having since left to live their own lives. The whole wedding felt like a parting of the ways, after which it doesn't seem that they ever so much as spoken to one another. It's definitely not a sad ending, many of which I find leave me more satisfied than this one, which just felt a bit unnecessarily hollow imo.

I wish I could put it better, I just think that it'd be a shame re-watching the series and feeling that there's really not very much waiting for the main characters once it's all over, not even each other.




Dunno if you guys read the OP or not, but I think we're of the same mind in most respects. Though,

@Rohzek I think that the fact that in essence, TTGL didn't become very different in the second half is its main redeeming feature. Still the same characters, still the same excellent soundtrack, still the same ludicrous mecha-based action and themes, etc. - I'd say most of its weaknesses - the parts in which things changed - were superficial. They just took their toll on the excitement and interest a bit. I would agree that it was a bit less fun and more serious in vibe, but not to the point that it took itself seriously beyond the messages it was trying to convey.


Hmm, I kind of remember it differently, but oh well. I quite liked that dualism myself, but I find it odd that you'd prefer the whole second half of the show because of one scene that forms the yang to its 1st-half counterpart's yin?


Some complete scumbag spoiled that for me too here on CR. Really not cool that it makes you keep inadervently saying to yourself "ah, this'll be where he dies" rather than just watching it optimistically and then being genuinely shocked when it happens.
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Posted 6/16/14
I liked the first half more just because of how much I loved Simon's development through out it. But I think it has been said enough at this point about how it had the better and deeper character moments. I liked the second half allot to but it had less impactful character moments like the Simon the Digger scene.
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Posted 6/16/14
The first half dragged and had some weak episodes. The second half threw around galaxy shurikens. So I'm going to go with the second.
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While it's true the first half had some underwhelming episodes, it also had Kamina which made it incredibly bad-ass. The first few episodes of the second-half, however, I didn't really like because it felt like forced exposition which felt out of place and kind of boring in a "dumb" anime like Gurren Lagann. The last 5 or so episodes of the series make the second half the victor for me though.
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Why must you pose such difficult questions? XD

I don't really know, each part had a totally different feeling to them. Personally I'd say second, but only by a small bit.
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Arcsol wrote:

Honestly speaking I liked the first half a bit more, it had more character development and everything didn't seem tacked on compared to the first...not to mention it actually made sense compared to a bunch of cavedwellers drilling a hole in time and space and throwing galaxies.

I like the first arc ending better as well, if the foreshadowing from the spiral king wasn't in it it could have been a pretty decent ending. Not to mention the death at the end of the second irritated me, it just felt tacked on entirely for feels. Actually most of the deaths in that arc felt tacked on. The entire city revolting out of the blue touched a nerve for me as well after all simon did in the first.

I'm fine with characters dying, I'm fine with main characters dying, I'm fine with them dying at the end of a story. But when it lacks the proper foreshadowing and its thrown in there just for the hell of it it ruins a good story. Feel free to call me butthurt but from a writers standpoint I was overall irritated with it, so maybe I am.


I sort of think that may have been a point, showing the way life truly goes while also breaking a normal way of writing, "fighting the power," if you will.
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I think both halves were pretty great. Both of them, for the most part, maintained that awesome feeling of watching this show. The action, the insanity, the awe, and occasionally the feels; both halves gave me my fix.

BUT in the end i would choose the first half.
This honestly has less to do with the merit and execution of each half than with the fact that i'm a sucker for happy endings. The first half in my opinion is overall happier and ends on significantly better terms. The second half though... it was crushing for someone hoping for a happy ending. Essentially every main/significant character from the first half was killed off in quick succession. Thats sad enough in and of itself but then after everything's said and done the person that is basically the reason that the died also dies. THEN the main character becomes a hermit and sadly wanders the earth... If anything the ending just pisses me off.

So in short I prefer the first half because i like things to be happy. Even more specifically i like the first 7 episodes according to that way of thinking. I probably wouldn't be able to enjoy re-watching more than those. However I do think that this show is at its best as a whole. Without all of it the experience isn't as amazing as it really can be.
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Posted 9/6/15 , edited 9/6/15
Both were a masterpiece, but if I had to choose, probably the first half by just a little bit. I think I just really enjoyed seeing Simon grow into his own man and I liked the Dai-Gurren days when they were the rebels fighting against the world and discovering more about it.

Though that's not to say the second wasn't just as awesome. All the characters were already developed, Simon was the man, and it had a more dramatic plot. Plus more development for Kittan, Yoko, and Nia was also fantastic. Plus the battles were just insane and got really intense from basically start to finish. Plus the ending is just a heartbreaker: both beautiful, hopeful, and sad at the same time. It really puts a good cap to the series. I have to give it to the creators because they were still able to make the second half just as awesome as the first.

Though, the first half wins by a nudge because of Simon's growth and I liked the setting just a tad more.
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Posted 9/6/15 , edited 9/6/15
This is tough but I gotta go with the second half because of Simon literally breaking dimensions to rescue his love and save humanity (what heroes are supposed to do). Not to mention as much as the second half made me dislike/borderline hate at times Rossiu (and the people of the city), it presented a good dynamic between the sides. And that dynamic happened to lean toward the idealistic side while showing the cold/callousness of the cynical side, but that's an added bonus. Also getting to see Viral developed was a strong point and Simon being pushed further by the 'ghost' of Kamina was another.
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Posted 9/6/15 , edited 9/6/15

Renegatz wrote:


Just like everybody else I think it's a superb anime overall



Ha.

But to answer your question, I think the first half was better. The second half was just a continuation of the anime trying to one-up itself in grandeur and epic proportions. It just tried to see how truly ridiculous and over the top it could actually get.
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Posted 9/6/15
First half, only because of the politics at the start, and a little bit of no Kamina. I found that extremely boring. The action and intense moments are what makes Gurren my favorite show, not worrying about politics. But those last few episodes, where they just kept getting bigger and bigger and more powerful, that was super epic.
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