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Posted 6/29/14

Chopsuey9444 wrote:

Political correctness doesn't solve the problems of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. It's only a mask to hide the issues, like how ostriches bury their heads underneath the dirt to avoid danger. In fact, I believe it only encourages more ignorance. Seriously, people really need to grow a backbone and some thicker skin.
Your statement masks the issues. What better way to bury a problem than to tell people the problem doesn't exist?
Posted 6/29/14 , edited 6/29/14

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Chopsuey9444 wrote:

Political correctness doesn't solve the problems of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. It's only a mask to hide the issues, like how ostriches bury their heads underneath the dirt to avoid danger. In fact, I believe it only encourages more ignorance. Seriously, people really need to grow a backbone and some thicker skin.
Your statement masks the issues. What better way to bury a problem than to tell people the problem doesn't exist?


Like I said in my earlier post to this thread, "The only people who seem to have problems with it is people who don't like to be called out when they say or do something offensive, problematic, or just downright derogatory...Choosing words that aren't insensitive or derogatory isn't that hard."

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I'm of the opinion that the context is what is important. That political correctness, mincing words, doesn't achieve anything if we don't fix the context. Besides, once upon a time, terms like redskins, blacks, or even the dread Negros, were not offensive terms. They were just like the now accepted term African Americans, or Native Americans. Shocking, right? Turns out they were just words used to talk about people of a certain nationality, no more offensive than calling a person born, raised, and of Japanese descent a Japanese person. It was like calling the Queen British. Not offensive.

To further drop your jaw to the floor....it was humanity who made these terms offensive. Wow.
Once upon a time, terms like redskins, gooks and negros ARE offensive, shocker right? If humanity made these terms offensive, then they are offensive, what more is there to argue? Go ahead and defend the right you already have to call people redskins and negros. Your intentions are clear.
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Once upon a time, terms like redskins, gooks and negros ARE offensive, shocker right? If humanity made these terms offensive, then they are offensive, what more is there to argue? Go ahead and defend the right you already have to call people redskins and negros. Your intentions are clear.


Were. Are, while true, doesn't work there.
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Posted 6/29/14 , edited 6/29/14

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Like I said in my earlier post to this thread, "The only people who seem to have problems with it is people who don't like to be called out when they say or do something offensive, problematic, or just downright derogatory...Choosing words that aren't insensitive or derogatory isn't that hard."
I'm not trying to say people should avoid the problem, I intend the opposite. People need to get out of their comfort zone and deal with the problem head-on instead of masking it. Racists in denial only perpetuates social stigmas v
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Posted 6/29/14

FlyinDumpling wrote:


Chopsuey9444 wrote:

Political correctness doesn't solve the problems of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. It's only a mask to hide the issues, like how ostriches bury their heads underneath the dirt to avoid danger. In fact, I believe it only encourages more ignorance. Seriously, people really need to grow a backbone and some thicker skin.
Your statement masks the issues. What better way to bury a problem than to tell people the problem doesn't exist?


I'm not trying to say people should avoid the problem, I intend the opposite. People need to get out of their comfort zone and deal with the problem head-on instead of masking it. Political correctness only perpetuates social stigmas.

Posted 6/29/14 , edited 6/29/14

FlyinDumpling wrote:


MeikoAkizukiMB wrote:

Like I said in my earlier post to this thread, "The only people who seem to have problems with it is people who don't like to be called out when they say or do something offensive, problematic, or just downright derogatory...Choosing words that aren't insensitive or derogatory isn't that hard."
I'm not trying to say people should avoid the problem, I intend the opposite. People need to get out of their comfort zone and deal with the problem head-on instead of masking it. Racists in denial only perpetuates social stigmas v


Oh, I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I was trying to agree with you, horribly and confusingly obviously. Sorry if it came off weird!
Perhaps I shouldn't have commented on you and instead on the person you were commenting. Sorry!
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Posted 6/30/14

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FlyinDumpling wrote:


MeikoAkizukiMB wrote:

Like I said in my earlier post to this thread, "The only people who seem to have problems with it is people who don't like to be called out when they say or do something offensive, problematic, or just downright derogatory...Choosing words that aren't insensitive or derogatory isn't that hard."
I'm not trying to say people should avoid the problem, I intend the opposite. People need to get out of their comfort zone and deal with the problem head-on instead of masking it. Racists in denial only perpetuates social stigmas v


Oh, I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I was trying to agree with you, horribly and confusingly obviously. Sorry if it came off weird!
Perhaps I shouldn't have commented on you and instead on the person you were commenting. Sorry!


lol I was parodying the genius quoting glenn beck
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I think it's ironic how they very people who don't want to be judged constantly judge others.
Posted 6/30/14

FlyinDumpling wrote:


MeikoAkizukiMB wrote:


FlyinDumpling wrote:


MeikoAkizukiMB wrote:

Like I said in my earlier post to this thread, "The only people who seem to have problems with it is people who don't like to be called out when they say or do something offensive, problematic, or just downright derogatory...Choosing words that aren't insensitive or derogatory isn't that hard."
I'm not trying to say people should avoid the problem, I intend the opposite. People need to get out of their comfort zone and deal with the problem head-on instead of masking it. Racists in denial only perpetuates social stigmas v


Oh, I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I was trying to agree with you, horribly and confusingly obviously. Sorry if it came off weird!
Perhaps I shouldn't have commented on you and instead on the person you were commenting. Sorry!


lol I was parodying the genius quoting glenn beck


Oh...Well, I feel silly.

Interpreting internet humor is obviously not my forte.

Thanks for clearing that up.
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While I don't really care for political correctness in principle, I'm generally not against it. As I cannot deny its usefullness and the good that it has done and still does for society.
However, with what's happening in Iraq and Syria lately with ISIS/ISIL, I am generally concerned about how the situation may develop, and I hope that political correctness will not prevent politicians from acknowledging it as a legitimate and serious problem that must be dealt with seriously.

It could very easily turn into another scenario like happened with WWII. It could've been stopped early on, had the other countries taken the threat seriously. But they didn't. And as a result, the problem spread and turned into a world war. I seriously don't wish for that to happen again. Certainly not with a group so extreme that it makes the nazis seem like a nice, friendly grandma in comparison...
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Political correctness is a minor quandary, but one has been elevated to a perceived offense than it really deserves. Though it serves to facilitate cooperation and suppress antagonism in a diverse population. Obviously with homogeneity there wouldn't be a need for political correctness and sensitivity training. Reiterating, political correctness is a first world "tragedy." I suppose some tragedies can be considered a luxury, because the recent political conundrum concerning the name of a sports team is such a crime against humanity and warrants greater attending and rectification than violence, disease, and malnutrition... I suppose we should also change the name of the Tomahawk cruise missile, AH-64 Apachee, or the Iroquois and Kiowa helicopter to something else.
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I know this might sound like a strange question, but I feel like it is related to the topic at hand. Does anyone else get the sense that a lot of people who are politically correct are more racist than the people they are calling out as racist? Like in one conversation a bunch of SJWs from tumblr were getting really up in arms and angry because a guy says that he only finds black girls sexy. They said that he was being racist, and reenacting colonialism or some craziness, when a black girl entered the conversation to say that she did not think what he said was offensive at all. She said they he merely had a sexual preference. All of the girls who were originally offended (I'm paraphrasing here) told her that they knew better than her, and that she had internalized her racism. They totally invalidated her opinion, and shoved her (a WOC) out of a conversation about WOC. I see stuff like this a lot. I think often the loudest PC police, are often the most racist there selves. Did anyone else here get that feeling, or see something like this before?
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Posted 7/5/14 , edited 7/5/14

Chopsuey9444 wrote:

I'm not trying to say people should avoid the problem, I intend the opposite. People need to get out of their comfort zone and deal with the problem head-on instead of masking it. Political correctness only perpetuates social stigmas.



That's an interesting choice of spokesperson you have there. This very nicely reinforces the case I made earlier about the term "political correctness", its manner of use, and its actual function in the context of US political dialogue a bit earlier.
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Chopsuey9444 wrote:

I'm not trying to say people should avoid the problem, I intend the opposite. People need to get out of their comfort zone and deal with the problem head-on instead of masking it. Political correctness only perpetuates social stigmas.



That's an interesting choice of spokesperson you have there. This very nicely reinforces the case I made earlier about the term "political correctness", its manner of use, and its actual function in the context of US political dialogue a bit earlier.


I understand and agree that Glenn Beck is a sensationalist idiot, but that quote does hold truth.
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