Idol Producers Are Pimps In Cheap Suits
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Posted 6/23/14 , edited 6/23/14
I like J-Pop. It's something I don't really let people know off the internet, but I'll hum a ClariS song in the shower, and sometimes when I'm waiting for delicious Hot Pockets to get done I'll tap the counter in tune with a Nano.Ripe tune.

I try to support the groups I like, but I always feel a little dirty when doing it. Not because I'm a grown-ass man listening to teenage girls sing songs of love and friendship and moe in lyrical form, because I have a feeling most Idol groups are really just Vocaloids anyways, but because I don't like giving money to the industry itself. The producers, the talent scouts, the record labels, the marketing people: all those people give me the creeps.

If you know even a little bit about the Idol scene over in Japan, it's probably how the average Idol is treated like one of those teeny-bopper Disney singers, but on steroids: the entertainment industry has always been fluff and selling a dream or an ideal, but to take it to an extreme where a singer can't go on a date because doing so would cause her fans to burn her CDs and hug pillows is something extremely sad, infuriating, and lewd.

Lewd is the keyword here: Idols are presented as pure but make no mistake, sex sells and sex is what is being sold. In the Japanese culture with its reserved public civility and societal conformity, it's low birthrate and a generation that is choosing 2D over 3D, the Idol is sold literally as a sex object catering to this specific mix of norms and phenomena: non-human, expressing only the most basic of emotions and in a wildly exaggerated way, an emotional distance but something that can be snuggled up to in a hug pillow, kept as a phone wall paper, etc.

So I don't mind giving my money to the Miss Monochromes of the Idol world. I just feel sorta sleazy when I hand over my money for their services, and knowing exactly what I'm enabling.


How do you reconcile supporting the industry with, well, supporting the industry?
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Posted 6/23/14
Japans 2D over 3D problem is on them(More women for the rest of us), But that shoudnt stop you for supporting your favorite idol.
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Posted 6/23/14
I blame Japan for having a job system like 1900s America: all work and little time for family and relationships. Japan may be an advanced society but the way working works there is pretty far behind us. Apparently, this is what made them like dating sims and all that 2D stuff as it's easier to feel competent messing around with false relationships when you have so little time with IRL versions.
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Posted 6/23/14
these reminds me i can't tell a new song in the US anymore
Posted 6/23/14
Sounds like my ideal job
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Posted 6/23/14
delicious hot pockets? never heard of such a thing
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Posted 6/23/14
The anime industry suffers from many of the same problems.
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Posted 6/23/14
There's really no need to find any type of reconciliation at this point because Japan's not the only country that uses "lewd" material for capital.
And come to think of it, a few friends of mine felt like this was a pretty big thing after reading the WA series and I"S and such lol. I'm not saying that this is your reason, but if this is coming from after watching some anime or reading manga/VNs, just remember that they and real life are infinitely different.
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Posted 6/23/14

tsun wrote:I'm not saying that this is your reason, but if this is coming from after watching some anime or reading manga/VNs, just remember that they and real life are infinitely different.


Yessssssssssss...Good show.
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Posted 7/20/14



From Locodol.


Like I said......
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Posted 7/20/14

Sogno- wrote:

delicious hot pockets? never heard of such a thing


This is where I stopped reading too
Posted 7/20/14
Idols killed berserk

rip miura
Posted 7/21/14
Pimps with their whores. Except idols are often sworn to celibacy, which frustrates them.
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Posted 7/21/14
If you enjoy something you can get it for yourself, instead of only thinking who it's going to. If it bothers you to give to the "Industry" then well, tough shit. They'll never leave and even if you don't give them money other people sure as hell will.
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Posted 7/21/14

Ink-e wrote:

Idols killed berserk

rip miura


rip in pepperonis
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